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Informative video, glad that your channel is getting deeper!!! 🙏🙏🙏💙

I haven't even watched the video yet but I thumbs up'd for the theme song. LOL. Post-watch opinion: you have excellent points, but I respectfully don't feel the same way. I won't even say I "disagree" because I don't really, but just feel rather apathetic toward it, or feel as if you're taking it really seriously while I don't And no, I'm not even a Helluva Boss stan, I've never even seen all the episodes (seen a large portion of it but don't care enough to watch every single one) There are some cartoons I literally can't watch and enjoy because all the characters are so vile and unlikable, but I've never felt that way with Helluva Boss, despite the characters being sleazy I just think it's a fun show and I'm not offended by it because I don't think it's that deep or being intentionally harmful. I know media can be unintentionally harmful and cause real life damage, but I personally feel Helluva Boss isn't it It's definitely not my favorite show and it has its issues. I get why some people don't like it. Great video btw. I don't feel the same way but enjoyed seeing your opinion! Btw, regarding the the dog-people thing... I've been autistically obsessed with the Beetlejuice cartoon recently and it's interesting in that show's version of the afterlife there are also dog people who don't seem like they fit in. I guess it's the whole hell hounds thing. I personally have no issue with it, it's just odd

this... was the most thorough, refreshing, and deep analysis of the show at its core. I've seen so many people talk and talk and throw concepts around but there was no cohesiveness, no conclusions from their words. but you put it all in one place and called it what it is. it's so funny because I used to have yaoi fetish fantasies like that and like, I get it. I was 15 when I had those. 😭

I'm no Stolas lover, but I'm tired of hearing "but Blitzs JOB". Blitz CHOSE to start this kind of business knowing he may not even be able to get to earth. Blitz is a complete moron here and I have no idea why people aren't seeing that.

is this michael kovachs alt? that voice seems familiar.

There's always anti-witchcraft groups. Just go to a church lol. Remember all the goosebumps and harry potter book burnings?

Merlin isn't Jesus. It's like... okay who's the old mythical trans y'all look up to? Caitlyn Jenner? Whomever your person is just equate Merlin to them.

You forget that MACUSA, much like the ministry of magic, is incompetent. macusa however seems to be overreactionary. There's little to no checks and balances for their government. I'm surprised it doesn't fall apart all the time.

What about the Asexual representation?

SO CUTE!!!! This is a beautiful cover 🥰🥰🥰

Noooooooooooooooopooopp

I love this song ❤

The way some people talk about Stolas and Blitz's deal speaks miiiiiles about how they view sex work in general (because that's literally what it was before Feelings got more involved and shit became messy), but also I don't think they realize that Stolas didn't owe his grimoire to Blitz just because Y E S. 1- Blitz started their relationship with sex in exchange of the book. Stolas only continued it 2- Stolas was ALREADY permitting Blitz to use the fucking grimoire before all this shit, if you think he would take it from Blitz if Blitz refused the deal, then it says more about you than Stolas, because: 3- Blitz denied SEVERAL TIMES to have sex with Stolas. And guess what Stolas did? Nothing. Wow, what a scary abuser 4- Blitz's agency means less than shit for the antis 5- If Stolas, who never raped nor thought about raping anyone, is a rapist in the antis' eyes, then they should also consider Blitz one. Blitz pushed a LOT of boundaries in their first encounter, if Stolas wasn't into it, it would be a total red flag. He also pushed more and more boundaries in the first minutes of Apology Tour, "demanding" for sex (not really, but if you take it out of context it really seems like he's demanding). Now, Blitz never raped anyone, never considered nor thought about raping anyone, but it's not like that matters for antis. 6- The Grimoire belongs to Stolas. He decides who can or can't use, what rules one should follow to use it. Blitz stole the book that belongs to Stolas. Stolas didn't steal some precious thing that Blitz owned and desperately needed to live and said "hey if you don't fuck me you will never have your belonging back", no. This is not what happened. Stolas PROPOSED, not demanded, PROPOSED a sex deal so they could both use the book that belongs to him, and Blitz accepted the deal. It's not Stolas' fault that Blitz decided to open a business consisting in killing humans in the mortal world 7- The Grimoire is NOT Blitz's only way to go to Earth. It's only his easiest way. He could still have his business without the book 8- Sex workers have sex in exchange for financial benefits. It's their job. Are antis seriously suggesting that a costumer paying a sex worker is rape? (yes abuse against sex workers CAN and DOES happen, and it should never be ignored, but the reason of why it's abuse it's because the costumer didn't respect what was stablished. Consensual sex work is not rape just because your cheap moralism doesn't agree with it) 9- The deal is a sex work... for like, BOTH of them. Right? Stolas is also doing sex work. He needs the Grimoire as well as Blitz. Maybe more, because it's his DUTY, and the book, again, belongs to him. Stolas is also doing sex work. Y'all thought Blitz was having sex with the air?

Stolas is not a coercive rapist. Let's start at s1 e5: 'When this happens, it's not really something I fuss about...' and 'Well, I'm not a fan of someone I offered a job to about to off my easiest lengthy ticket to Earth behind my back.' Notice how Blitz says 'easiest lengthy ticket' here, not 'only ticket', and Blitz knows about Asmodean Crystals, as evidenced by unhappy campers where Blitz forces someone to use it to create a portal to the living world, so the grimoire was never the only option Blitz could've used to run I.M.P. Sure losing the grimoire would've disrupted business for a bit, but again, it was never Blitz's only option, so the coercion argument already falls flat there, but let's beat it up a bit further shall we? Now let's look at s1 e7, at the ending of it Stolas never pressures or forces Blitz into having sex with him or quote 'We could talk, or… watch a movie, or… maybe cuddle?', Blitz turns Stolas down here, and Stolas never forces or pressures Blitz into doing said things with him, and you know what this also proves? It proves that Blitz has always had the self-agency to tell Stolas 'no I don't want to fuck you', which also shows that Blitz actually wanted to have sex with Stolas, which we can prove by the text messages Stolas and Blitz had after Ozzie's. The text messages at the end of Western Energy show that Stolas is actively giving Blitz the option to not fuck him, which also tells us that Blitz always had the option to tell Stolas no, and hell, we can see in the All 2 U song that Blitz turned down Stolas most likely asking Blitz to stay after the sex, proving even further Blitz always had the self-agency to tell Stolas no, which shows that Blitz wanted to have sex with Stolas. I sure wish there was a funny little song showing Blitz wanting to fuck Stolas out of his entire own free will to just really drive in the point, -oh wait that actually exists with 'When I See Him Tonight" from Full Moon. and now let's look at apology tour again, Blitz wants the arrangement back, to fuck Stolas again. Which tells us something that the people peddling the bullshit 'Stolas is a rapist' argument entirely ignore, Blitz is the one unhappy with the arrangement ending, not Stolas, Blitz. Also, Blitz has the crystal by this point, he could've easily have just told Stolas to fuck off and leave if he was truly being coerced and raped by him, but he chooses to stay because at this point he thinks this gesture is a farewell gift from Stolas, and it's been made very clear that Blitz has strong feelings for him by this point despite his self-hatred, that he doesn't want to lose Stolas, which also helps to further prove that Blitz wanted to have sex with him out of his entire free will. Blitz having sex with Stolas was a way for Blitz to be close to him without having to be vulnerable, and when Stolas gets rid of the arrangement Blitz is scared because it would force him to be vulnerable towards Stolas. Is all of this really the behavior of a person who felt coerced into sex he didn't want to have? Because I think it's pretty fucking clear that Blitz at no point felt coerced into having sex with Stolas, and the antis/critics that claim otherwise I have good grounds to believe aren't even watching the same show anymore.

with the food thing - maybe it's more like you can't conjure calories? so like... sure you could do it and it it... but it would kill you pretty quickly brcause even though it seems like you're getting food - it's the same as eating straight up nothing nutritionally. Like you can conjure flavour, you can conjure moisture and texture, but perhaps that's about it

dabbit I missed the strem, I broke my streak y'all .-.

The other thing I've always wondered about food in Harry Potter is that if you can't conjure it because of some arbitrary magic rule (which is fine to have) can't you just summon it? That's a spell already, it's accio I think. Why can't Mrs. Weasley say "accio family dinner" and it just flies onto her table? Or maybe it's just for one item at a time and she can summon each ingredient as she needs it. The point remains.

Are you a dude with a girl wig

They forgot about Fizz and Ozzie, they are in love but they still do a lot of unconventional things in their relationship and they are also implied to be in an open relationship

It's just disgusting. I love the invader zim show, but this is just an insult to it.

Holy shit, your voice is annoying.

Somehow I missed this upload but you made some great points. I wanna add onto to the Blitzo's self hatred being solved by romance angle. Its weird how they're ignoring that part of why he's unhappy with himself is because of the racial hierarchy in hell? Imps are literally second class in their own world, that would cause some mental health issues. Dating someone who's upper class wouldn't make all his problems go away like the show implies, especially when that person only just realized Blitzo deserves autonomy at all

It’s a dissolvable bag you’re supposed to put it in water and wait for it to melt

6:39 i have a genuine question. What's wrong with the show framing monogamous as better over promiscuity?

I watched this a year ago when I started falling out of love with the show and, Jesus Christ. A lot of things didn't click, I'm sure I'll have the same reaction in a few months, but this show is horrible. I've had to take a deep dive into past my interests and figure out WHY I liked some things that are blatantly wrong (that I no longer indulge with), like helluva boss. And I genuinely think that show's like this are bad. HB has no substance, and it's sad knowing that the majority of the fandom are teens (I was FOURTEEN when this came out and was watching it since episode 1) because whether or not fiction is fiction and you're allowed to like this stuff is irrelevant- what you watch will and actively DOES shape the way you view and think. The fandoms age, although not Vivzes fault, is concerning. Minors, and I'm guilty too, like stuff for older audiences- not because they understand, but for the sake of it. If HB had substance and nuance, it wouldn't really matter, but it *doesn't.* It feels like the writer's barely disguised fetish. All of this to say; thank you. Thank you for making this video, because everytime I rewatch it and revisit it, there's something else for me to think about. I think it's easy to throw in the towel, shout "oh but it's fiction! It doesn't affect reality!" But it still matters.

I think they messed up his explanation of why he is stopping the exchange. He makes it sound like hes throwing him away. He doesn't apologize for the terrible nature the "relationship" they have. He should have been more hounest and actually put in the effort. Starting with going to blitz first, not shattering the mans expectations for the day that he had gotten comfortable with. He started the entire interaction by taking the man by surprise and then got angry with his confusion before giving him anytime to think. Imagine going to to a pitzza shop that you go too regularly then they serve you sushi then when you ask why thet get angry that you don't like the sushi. It's a ridiculous argument for stolis to be in the right.

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Keep up the great music

That's what I like!!!

The frog toy is so cute

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So thrilled to be apart of the livestream, take care and stay hydrated Madeline!!! 💜💜💜

What the Hell are you smoking?

newt being a chaser in high school made me laugh so hard

nothing to do w the video but i found this video so funny and literally subscribed in the first five minutes LOL

Hearing a video essay on this show from the perspective someone who seemingly went into it blind without any prior knowledge about the show or external lore drops done by the writers makes me understand the problems even more. I came into the show already knowing everything about it. Me, and the fandom at large, tend to have a mutual & universal understanding of all the lore. Not knowing that Sally is trans, that imps are actually called imps, and that Hell has a hierarchy was never a problem that occurred to me whatsoever. The target audience is an already existing fanbase that Viv had already built up over the course of years. It’s no surprise that new viewers would come into it completely lost. The narrative of the show expects you to already understand the lore and the backstory behind anything. This was never an issue that occurred to me because I was already a fan years ago. And you’re totally right about this show primarily appealing to younger audiences. I LOVED this show in middle school, and so did my friends. As I’ve gotten older (I’m now almost 18) it totally fell off for me.

I understand that blizto is a horrible character he's done bad things... i like blitzo more than stolas because between stolas and blitzo, blizto is the only one who's getting backlash(for good reason). For example, from his ex-girlfriend V, she tells him that he's done bad things and that he's a shitty person. Blizto shows that he wants to change, and that's good... But stolas, on the other hand, get treated like he's done nothing wrong... He's not gonna change.

so funny

So I wasn't the biggest fan of your first video (as we made clear in conversations), but in the year or so since, I fell off the Hellaverse hype train as it were due to both the noticeable decline in the writing as well as things about Vivzie and Spindlehorse that....are not good at all. And after watching this video and realizing just HOW bad the writing got since I stopped watching and realizing that a lot of criticisms I found unfounded in the original video were now COMPLETELY justified.... Guess I gotta go on an "Apology Tour" of my own....Eyyyy? EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY???? :D I'm horrible XD

Hi! I'm from the other video you did about Apology Tour and honestly, HB is making a turn for the worse currently... recent material has proved that along with the shorts and Stoliz! UGH, I hate it so MUCH like this show feels like it was made specifically for those who are fujoshi, and the swear words like tone it down for impact! Fujoshi is.... a Yaoi Fangirl is a female otaku who enjoys anime and manga featuring handsome men in homoerotic relationships. Unlike those who simply enjoy watching male-on-male physical intimacy, yaoi fangirls are primarily interested in the romantic and emotional aspects of these relationships, often through fanfiction, shipping, or original works. The Japanese term for yaoi fangirl is fujoshi, often mistakenly used as a blanket term for all female otaku. To differentiate, those who fantasize about heterosexual relationships with fictional characters are called yumejoshi. Male yaoi fans are known as fudanshi and may also enjoy bara, a more explicit genre. While yaoi fanboys are rare in mainstream media, they are more common in yaoi-centric works, often depicted as audience surrogates or struggling with their own romantic desires. BTW, Yaoi is basically what Stoliz is but make it anime I felt like after Queen Bee that's when the show went downhill, slowly and now it has this weird hate of it's own main character for upsetting the fan-favorite... Stolas and what Viv is doing is basically RETCONNING and CHANGING their character to fit the needs of people like Stolas or even VEROSIKA! Like she's super spiteful, making a party to hate on one ex, like girl, have you moved on like your un-catchy song said?! People, it IS NOT healthy to stalk your ex and humiliate them at every turn that isn't healthy, even if they hurt you just get someone to help you move through it I got so tried of this show so I decided to rewrite it! :D Nice video as always!

I honestly HATE the fact the show takes this "fairytale approach" and forces characters into Christian/conservative monogamy, like with the two incubi in Apology Tour or Fizz and Ozzie pretty soon like they're placing M&M or Chaggie, which to me feels somewhat boring for both (though it's cute) on this pedestal of "the relationships every deviant MUST have" and forces characters together UGH where's the polyamory here or the fact that sex workers CAN work in the porn industry just with consent, heck now they're making Blitzø apologize for murdering a human LIKE WHAT?! Excuse me, but these are demons just let them be complex, and anti-heroic or just EVIL for once instead of uwu woobies >:( like Blitzø should've been HAPPY he got out of a toxic deal, but NOPE instead the show forces him to beg for his abuser's forgiveness, it just irks me SO MUCH! I honestly hc Blitzø as demiromantic since it explains his feelings about relationships pretty well and that his partners HAVE TO BE patient with him and let him explore the romantic sides of their relationship by himself and THEN let him say "I love you" genuinely! About the sex jokes, I just honestly think it'd be better if they'd try to make it more nuanced so it doesn't look like the whole show was written by a middle schooler... This is honestly a based take @friendlycatwife :)

So about the shows that you haven’t seen that I have: The Legend of Tarzan - D. Sequel series to the Disney film. Mediocre voice acting and animation, especially compared to the movie. Plus, some of the episodes are just bizarre. But it’s for the most part inoffensive. Lilo and Stitch - C. Lilo and Stitch are tasked with finding the other 625 experiments. Cool concept, and many of the experiments are pretty creatively thought out and designed. But the experiments’ potential is often wasted, and it mostly feels like a generic kids’ show, especially when following up on something as emotional and powerful as the movie. Batman: The Brave and the Bold - B. A jokier Batman cartoon. It leans a bit more towards the campiness of the Adam West show, but with the kickassery of the Animated Series. Not for everyone, though. Plus, there’s one villain that could be read as a transphobic caricature.

Your supposed to put the bag in water and it dissolves😊