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Lol I had a similar thought the first time I heard that +5 semitone pattern too. "Uhh Steve Reich called and he wants his composition tools back." :D

So true! The wall mounted fountain of ideas.

Oh that doesn't sound good! Can you let me know your OS, version of Live, and where exactly on your computer you saved the contents of the .zip file? It sounds like Max can't find the subpatchers and I suspect a folder location problem. I only mentioned the Mac path in the video. You can see the right folder for you by, in Max, going to the Options menu then File Preferences. You should use whatever directory is set to the User Library. Happy to look at screenshots, etc. just email me at zack@steinkamp.us

Which app? This is a Max for Live device running inside of Ableton Live.

Thank you Mordio! I appreciate the encouragement. :) Perhaps start with this one? ruclips.net/video/bW8M0wRehgE/видео.html I enjoy thinking about and making these tutorial videos, so I'm sure there will be more soon.

@ amazing thank you i really like how simple u explain all of it.

Hi @jopmens6960 - I think I'm too old for Discord - it stresses me out. :) I haven't dug deep into Max's spectral objects (e.g. [fft~]) but perhaps one day! Let me know what you find or come up with :)

Heya @Collect-Al - I don't have a Push 3 so I cannot say for sure, so if Ableton would like to send me one I could put it to good use, or someone who has one could report in. It's free so you can just try it if you have a Push 3. Regardless, if you are a human who knows the answer to this question, please reply below :) Thanks!

All that jibber jabber and I'll add a little more ... I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. I am optimistic that it will work.

Usually this is due to TouchOSC on the iPad not having the correct connection info for the computer running ableton in its OSC connection settings. Add Knobbler to your live set, then go to the TouchOSC connection settings (chain icon in the toolbar), to the OSC tab, then click "Browse" next to the Host field. Your computer should show up in the list. Choose the IPv4 address (192.168....) and it should work. If that doesn't work, try entering your computer's IP address in the host field. Make sure the Send port is set to 2346. If none of that works, send me an email and we can look into it. Screenshots showing the Knobbler device, the connection settings in TouchOSC on the iPad, and screenshots showing the network settings showing the IP address on both the computer and iPad would help. zack@steinkamp.us

Yes! Thank you Gabriel. Making devices and doing these videos is one way of living my best life. I love the idea of doing one of the modulators as the next video. I'll either do Correlation Modulation or maybe a new modulator in the form of a "let's build a ____ modulator" video? Thank you!

Thanks! LMK how it works for you or ideas you have to make it better :)

I'll look at it. What do you have in mind when you imagine random, in terms of number of points, diversity of points, curves, etc?

ha! thanks for pattin' the back :) let me know how it works for you if you use it or ideas you've got to improve it. 🎉

hey thanks! i agree :) the controller is a Keith McMillen K-Board Pro 4. One thing I thought to include in the video but didn't was to use the Expression Control device to map the MPE features of the K-Board (such as Slide) to the global duration / amount in ScratchBacker. That's fun too!

Yeah boyeeeee! 🎧

Oh make sure you try version 4. Many many improvements. I should maybe take this video down? github.com/zsteinkamp/m4l-Knobbler4 ruclips.net/video/1SvkGQ3_K8k/видео.htmlsi=hd5J0bwOHzW09HqE

Yeah go for it! :)

thanks :) Not 100% sure, but I'd guess perhaps you could code something in TouchOSC's scripting language to simulate the moving balls. It's possible to move the balls via OSC commands, but that would be slow and unreliable. XY pads are part of the normal TouchOSC kit. It would be possible to construct a layout of XY pads, with each axis of each pad mapped to a parameter. You would need some dedicated way to trigger the param-to-axis mapping though, since touching an XY is ambiguous about what axis you're interested in mapping. If you dig into this, let me know what you come up with! zack@steinkamp.us

Thanks :) I'm glad you find use in them. Mostly r/showerthoughts, sometimes actual need in the moment when musicmaking. I love that I can just make something in Max and use it in Live right away. Bonus benefit to share with y'all. :)

Rad advice, thank u! May I send some candidates your way for feedback?

Thanks! Any suggestions for future topics or ways to improve the video?

@@zsteinkamp a looper with Glitch/ambient built in fx?

Or a device randomizer :)

Mission accomplished! Thanks :) Any ideas for future topics?

​@@zsteinkamp Oh, don't ask me that or I'll make a list so gigantically huge that your eyes will bleed (; But seriously: I started with Max to make my own "Expression Control" device, one that offers more control over Velocity and Keytrack modulation and that is precise enough to be used during live playing (Expression Control seems to "miss" a lot of data). Also, I pretend to make it polyphonic, so it can really be called "Expressive". So that's what I want. However, I've learned a lot with your WavScope video, not only about how to iterate and idea and make it better, but also about navigation, usability and a bunch of other little droplets of information you threw in there. Like the fact that you can cmd+click and avoid a thousand switches between presentation and patching modes (; Meaning: Whatever you come up with I'll be happy because I vibe with your teaching style.

Aww thanks :) I do enjoy it. Ideas for the next one?

My pleasure! I only have Live 12 now, so could you try it in 11 and give it a shot? Easiest way is to download a .zip here: steinkamp.us/music-tools, extract it, and drag it into the set.

Agreed! Would love to hear what you can come up with it.

Cool idea. I'll look into adding a "time factor" knob, perhaps to go from 0.1x to 10x? Or did you have something else in mind?

@@zsteinkamp Nothing too particular in mind, but def under 200%, if not under ~110%. Seemed like it could be cool to have some echos come in a little early some a little late, or one or two a little late followed by speeding up rapidly.

@@peterlaar Ahh! Ok cool then. Now I get it. :) Makes perfect musical sense. I'll have a look.

@@peterlaar Want to give this a try? github.com/zsteinkamp/m4l-TapPanZeit/raw/refs/heads/main/frozen/TapPanZeit-v8.amxd

@@zsteinkamp Cool, will check it out! Played around a little with the previous version, super cool.

This is gonna be fun for modular jams

@@josealejandrogarciarojas1115 I'd love to hear the results!

Curious to hear what you come up with!

Hi @morizanova! It uses the newest version of TouchOSC.

Oh yeah! Have you used one? I'm curious how well they work in practice.

Something I'll think about. I have a Push2, so that handles those duties for me better than I'd want to code up for Max/TouchOSC. Or do you envision features that are different than Push?

@@zsteinkamp It would be nice to have everything in one app (TouchOSC) now I have to use another app to fire up clips. Thanks for another update, Knobbler4 is great!

@@zsteinkamp i just think with the intelligent mapping and hot cues to go through the session youre just a few features away from a full ableton control solution for ipad, and a lot of the other options are no longer being developed. food for thought!

@@screenwhirlpool Yes indeed! Something to ponder for sure. Perhaps it just starts with Play/Record/Stop buttons, then loop, punch in/out, tempo, ......... :D

Hey @pieterdesmijter420! Help me understand some details of what you're asking. If you have a MIDI knob assigned to a parameter, turning the hardware knob would update the slider/value on the Bluhand tab if that device was selected, or if you had mapped the parameter to a Knobbler knob on the screen, then it would also update. Is that what you had in mind? It's bi-directional. If the parameter value in Live is updated (no matter how -- MIDI control, mouse control of on-screen knob in Live, automation in Live, etc), then the new value is sent to the iPad.

@@zsteinkampmy bad sorry. I was wondering of it would be possible to run the software on an arduino or any other hardware and have a display above each physical knob to show parameter name etc. That would be really awesome 😀

@@pieterdesmijter420 Ahh yes ... I have thought about dedicated hardware as well. Since it uses the OSC protocol and it is documented in the GitHub repo [1], it is possible for anyone to make it. My plan is to first develop a dedicated iOS app, eliminating TouchOSC, then perhaps the next phase is a piece of hardware. We shall see! [1] github.com/zsteinkamp/m4l-Knobbler4/blob/main/OSC-API.md

@@zsteinkamp hmm I might have a go with one knob to see if I can get it to work 😀

@@pieterdesmijter420 Happy to hear about what you do! zack@steinkamp.us is my email.

I don't have a Push3 so I'm not sure, but the little bit of looking that I did about it makes me pessimistic about support at this time. Give it a try if you have one and let me know. The issue that I suspect is that Push3 does not yet support the [udpsend] and [udpreceive] objects in Max, which Knobbler relies on for the OSC communication with the iPad. Confirumation from a Push3 owner would be good though!

Yes indeed! That was one of the primary design goals. Switching projects should be 100% seamless. Let me know how it works for you once you try it.

@@zsteinkamp I just did a reopen so far and it works.. Too tranced out to leave this piece to try 🙂. What is the process for replacing existing mappings in the same project? Or adding another tab of controls (user configured preferably). which is a...

request. I did open two projects and they were opened correctly mapped, but it seems I had to move a fader or two to handshake with Live to actually control my devices.

@@SwamiLove Oh interesting. I wonder if you used a USB connection if that initial lag would be different. Home wifi networks can be unpredictable. github.com/zsteinkamp/m4l-Knobbler4/blob/main/USB.md

@@SwamiLove There are two tabs now. What sort of controls did you have in mind? You can play with the .tosc layout and change the sliders to dials or something, or move things around. As long as the names, events, and scripts are not changed it will work.

lol 🎸

Thanks Andrew! Happy to hear your feedback or ideas to improve it. :)