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It's a shit system.

I realy dont get it. There are 7 different prisms to collect. But the moment I finished leveling my first prism - totaly wrong, because I didnt know about the fusions and what playstyle I prefer- I ran out of stuff to do in the game. How often should we fight the same bosses over and over again? I realy enjoy testing build ideas, but the prism system ruins that atm

[Gamer service announcement] (CHRONOS before the ashes) is a prequel to REMNANT 1!... for anyone who hasn't stumbled upon it yet... It may have been a secret launch after REMNANT 1. WARNING! it's a pretty rough game, but still good between all the jank. Cool story. It answered many questions about Ford's previous adventures. Honestly, I think it may have been the original concept for REMNANT, but may not have had enough funding to publish until after REMNANT FROM THE ASHES did so well.

what the hell are you on about.

I cant find a single source that explains what the difference between the other prisms are. What is the motivation to spend 1000 relic dust for lethargy prism or go on a journey for jealousy prism? What will i gain if i go through the trouble of buying and or finding these other prisms in the game? Literally nobody has explained this not even the remnant 2 wiki.

“…given out for free” After paying close to $80 for a game in addition to the $25 for the dlc.. okay bro I can agree to disagree.

this dudes a sweat 😂

They should half the needed exp for this prism system.

to summarize entire video prism system is shit period.

Don’t have to max out to refresh btw, bare minimum level 10 prism can refresh.

They did nothing i stll have the crashes 😂

The rng itself isn’t the issue necessarily, it’s the xp price, once that’s toned down it’ll be awesome, because the prism system is absolutely awesome. Also we’re getting a legendary reroll

would be nice if at some point would show whole map

Im really surprised they didn't fix detonator mutation

I had the crashes when joining a game I stopped playing for a while because of it

I’m waiting till they drop the patch that addresses the issues with Prisms. The insane amount of exp; rng of legendary frags; re rolling legendary, etc. I’ve done like 4 prisms and put dozens of hours into trying to make them perfect, only to get screwed over by rng. I love the game, but since it’s the last DLC, let us just make our perfect builds at this point.

It's difficult because I'm fighting the f****** glitches The stupid drain ain't spawning properly it's so annoying

The last update changed a lot. You can now re roll at level 10. They are working to add a legendary re roll thats separate. Boss rush even on survivor gave you enough exp to max a prism out in a few hours. Now boss rush on harder difficulties gives you WAY more exp. From 15% to 50% and other exp bonuses from traits, tonics & rings now apply. The grind for prisms is dramatically easier now.

I already put over 700 hours into this game. Not interested in an additional grind at that level. The amount of XP it takes to level is pretty dumb. And having to trash my best fragments for a chance to get the rolls I want doesn’t sound fun. I love the idea. I just wish it worked a bit differently.

Prism outcome can be controlled and you can get exactly what you want. Only legendary part is truly rng.

I managed to get my prism to lvl 51, finally ... Not satisfied tough, so I cleansed it, thinking I could lvl it up again, not that I LOST ALL XP on the DAMN ting. Thats not gonna happen ... So I get u m8 ! They need to redo this, I no longer work, but even I dont want this even tough I have the time for it ! The fact that there is 9 different Prisms doesnt even help a little bit !

They keep making dlc's i'll keep playing. I really appreciate the different difficulty modes. Everyone can play at their own speed. Also the multiplayer rocks. Grinding is ok to a point.

All the devs had to do with stop doubling tripling down on traits and just give us more traits as in different & more points and everybody would be happy and the game would be just as good as f****** one if not better with everything and the way it looks. 😅😂. Instead of creating the prism system which I don't hate but at the same time it's really just a system that was put in place to stop people from complaining about traits and the lack there of options and points. I'm not asking for an insane amount like the first game had I get that we won't get that. But they could easily increase traits caps to I don't know 125 or 150 per every player that would give enough build room enough wiggle room for all players to really diversify and experience the game. And really change up their builds

The harsh truth is this game just became grindy AF. Luckily, it's a damn fun game to play, with lots of replayability.

But also, it's there to keep you busy and excited for a new Remnant 3 game, because this is the last DLC. When games you been waiting for turns out to be a disappointment, this is one of my fallback games. I'm a PS5 player and I like to thank you PC guys, because you guys keep games alive for years. ♥

I wish more people were willing to change their mindset. People love treating the prism system like its something they should be able to max in a few play sessions. These are the same people who max everything out as fast as they can then complain there's nothing left to do in the game and move onto another game. Leveling to 50/51 prism SHOULD take time. Look at a bunch of mmo's, people don't complain about the xp required to hit max level there, even when its more of a timesink than the xp needed to hit max level prisms in Remnant. They even made the system work so that it doesn't mess with any power level you used to have, you still have the three relic fragment buffs from before, now you just have additional stat buffs on your prism. If you dont have a huge amount of time on your hands, just grab whatever buffs sound good for your build and you'll still probably more than double the stat boosts you used to have from the relic fragments plus eventually a legendary shard bonus. Don't want to bother rerolling your prism to do it again, grab one of the other prisms and use that instead. If you have a bit more time/effort to spare you can then look up fusion combos etc. I don't see why people say the prism system is not for you when there is something to be gained from the prism system no matter what type of player you are. Literally slotting on the prism and doing literally anything in the game is gonna slowly give you more stuff already. In my opinion people just want to be able to get the most optimal best in slot min/maxed prism while not having the time or effort to put into the game. You can't have it both ways guys, and the prism system already delivers so much to all players regardless of their available time to sink.

rhe prism system is just objectively not good you cant sit there and say its good when you have to grind a absurd amount of xp in which the best way is to do boss rush on easy over and over again thats not fun thats just mundain and eventually boring

At the very least they said we'll be getting rerolls in a few patches for Legendary affixes.

It reminds me to the Kanai cube in D3. It´s the ultimate way to optimize a build. But its the grindiest thing ever. For some players it´s exactly what this game needs. Im just gonna max it out and take some randoms buffs

Good news though tragic said there will be changes to it in updates.. one allowing us to reset at lvl 10, and aswell reroll legendary bonus. Without need to reset prism. When those changes happen it will be easier to grind the perfect prism withiut the xp waste and time like it is atm.

Man came out here and said the prism system isn’t for casuals 😂👍

I just wish they would make it do you can't fall in the in-between dungeon paths. That's how I'm oosing my boss rush runs.

Yea me and my friend dropped it cuz of this lol now onto playing the sao fd game for more fun to have. But for people that like the grind I guess this is ok

Easy grind run survivor boss rush.. roll your perfect prism wait for the patch that lets you reroll your legendary. Profit. I genuinely don't think the prism system is that serious. I have three different prisms none finished yet haven't had to cleanse anything and the devs are already putting out a patch for quality of life. It's a pure pve game for crying out loud what are we talking about about?. You can casually take years to finish your prism it doesn't matter. Remnant is a pure single player co op optional, game. You literally can play it however you want.. the idea the anyone should quit remnant cause of the prism system, clearly the dev felt otherwise with the new patches coming. Just let people vibe and have their fun.. 😅

I don’t notice the difference. I fed a fragment to the prism. It made a pretty sound and then nothing. 😂

I disagree with you and here's why has somebody who only has a maximum of an hour or two that could potentially play games a day and taking into account there are several days that I just can't get on that means an average week of games for me is at Max around 7 hours total and that is being fairly generous out of those 7 hours I have other games I play Not Just remnant so I probably Play 3 to 4 hours a week of Remnant total that's on a good week I have no problem with a game being hard but making an RNG based game even more RnB based this prism system has three layers of RNG on it maybe four I have been leveling up a single prism from our one of this DLC release I'm only at level 22 on the prism not to mention that they took 14 at least of the fragments away in a forcing me to grind up to that again I still to this day don't even have everything from the base game and Pryor DLC yet my point is yes some people have no life and are able to grind this out but that is not most people there comes a point when a game loses its fun because of them trying to put extremely unnecessary grinding into it and that is the case with this prism system the only people this system is for is those who literally have no life and do nothing but play remnant all day everyday that is the target audience for this and it's despicable literally everything else in this game levels up to 10 or 20 Max why does the prism have to go up to 51 and then you can try to reroll it no this whole system needs a complete rework

Yeah its for all pc players who can just mod it i guess 😭

Destiny 2 is on a downward spiral not because they catered to casuals, but for MANY reasons. -They have aggressively anti-consumer MTX that has been a sore spot within the community since day one and its constantly getting worse (multiple currencies, not being able to earn enough in a season to buy the next one, minimum premium currency costs that don't cover a season without needing to make 2 purchases, excessive skin and cosmetic sales, they even tried out P2W with the starter bundle) -They introduced sunsetting so that weapons you farmed for were worthless within a few months and hurt the appeal of farming god rolls -They destroyed their PVP scene for YEARS by not fixing it and by removing the most popular parts of it -They eventually built their entire play loop around FOMO, where you can only play some content for some time then its gone forever. This has made it very difficult for old players to get back into t-he game when they take a break; there is no break, you MUST play destiny all the time otherwise you miss out -They spent YEARS fucking around with their games identity (was it a loot shooter, was it an MMO, was it an FPSRPG) -They failed the community who demanded easier loot grinds by listening to streamers who no life the game and said it was too easy to grind loot if you did every activity on all three characters every week. It went from getting an exotic once or twice a play session to I never got an exotic I could use for an entire expansion, and then they added curated rolls and fully random rolls to make getting your gear even worse -They could never figure out the games balance. PVP is a mess, and PVE power is so crept that people are completing the hardest nightfall strike bosses in one shot. -The games story was always lackluster -The game has had issues with performance because the devs were not competent at PC ports and there was a lack of communication between the main team and the dev team they outsourced their pc port to, which is why they LITERALLY deleted half of all the content in the game they had at one point. -They regularly break guns and then just remove them because they can't fix them behind the scenes. Rat King is a good example. Prometheus Lense was made unusable for months until they got around to fixing it The game would have been just fine catering to casuals over the hardcore if they only got their shit together and didn't burn their entire community, hardcore and casual alike, every season. AND, case in point, Sony is deeply unhappy with their management of the game even though in the last year or so they have more or less turned the game around. Please don't spread falsehoods about why a game is struggling as a strawman to counterplay a supposed mistake you think Gunfire Games is making.

They didn't really change much They just added the prism The problem is everyone wants a legendary bonus and on top of that fusions that take forever. What they should do is. If you have all your fusions you wanted then the only thing that should get cleansed is your legendary bonus That way you wouldn't have to grind the xp and fragments for the fusions. Only the legendary bonus

What an L take, 😂

I don't know how the system even works. I have a 25 level prism with weakpoint dmg, crit dmg, range, reload speed and crit chance. When am i gonna see those fuse together?

So you have a full time job, family, youtube channel and still have time to grind rng prisms and still sleep? The real superman ladies and gentleman! They could just make it a little more reasonable. I dont mind grinding at all i have over 500 hours in the game already. Im hoping this next patch the will fix some things. Im not saying hand it to us but damn for it already being all rng at least bring the xp down some. I like the fush at 10 and the reroll legendary perk. The xp is just a bit much.

Got an insanely perfect roll for ranged damage finished yesterday. Meta, munitions, gunfighter, longevity, range damage, and then sharpshooter for the legendary. Feel like i won the lottery

the only thing i really hate about it is the level of xp needed is beyond stupid, having to put millions of xp into something that might already be screwed up just to reset it like me is terrible

The only issue I have is the legendary At the end of the prism. I have grinded out 2 prisms both exactly what I wanted to create as far as fusions. But both could be made less awesome if the legendary is crap for the builds I want to use my two prisms for. So to get that perfect legendary on a prism makes sense it will take a good amount of grinding. I already have over 400 hours in this game, I don't want to invest another 400 hours to make perfect endgame gear for a game that has nothing for me to use it on. I already have half a dozen fuck busted builds that melt bosses and mobs alike on Apocalypse, giving me more power is not a good enough of a "carrot" for me to fully bite. But i agree with your sentiments dude, the prism system seems to be quite greedy for player time when you factor in the legendary.

Yes. Also there is most of the time a way to make most legendaries to work in most builds. Sometimes you will need to change a lot or go and find rings or amulet to make it work. What I do is going one by one through the list thinking what should I do if I get this legendary. And there is just 5 or so I couldn’t figure out.

Cut the XP price to level the prism in half. Also, they could add debuffs to the Boss rush mode to make it more challenging, and maybe give extra rewards

Cool shit video 😂

Yeah u can make a backup safe in pc to get the perfect roll , but for console players are stuck with luck , I all ready know that prism is going to be a problem , nice vid btw ( relic dust is not easy to farm do).

At that point, just make make unlimited traits