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AtomicMike421
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Improving Hall Effects on the Elite Series 2
A video showing (some of) the lengthy process of installing Hall Effect Thumbsticks on the Elite Series 2, as well as various strategies to further improve preformance. I've had a few people ask about the "bent middle pin" method for calibration boards, so thats the method I used here. I did NOT connect the LT magnet compensation due to plans to install "Mouse-click" Triggers on this build.
If you'd like to attempt the Ginfull v.5 sensor swap, the most important thing is that they fit SNUG. If you file/sand even a fraction of a millimeter too much, the sensor wont be snug ENOUGH resulting in re-centering issues.
FYI - a sensor swap can also be done with Gulikit's TMR sensors! No filing/sand...
If you'd like to attempt the Ginfull v.5 sensor swap, the most important thing is that they fit SNUG. If you file/sand even a fraction of a millimeter too much, the sensor wont be snug ENOUGH resulting in re-centering issues.
FYI - a sensor swap can also be done with Gulikit's TMR sensors! No filing/sand...
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Hall Effect (Ginfull's) Tension Increase
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Ginfull Hall Effect modules are generally considered the best for PS5/Xbox controllers currently. But if you're like me and like more tension in your sticks, then they are pretty much unusable as they are far lower than even stock Alps modules. Here's how you can bring the tension up to normal levels and even beyond that!
Gamesir G7 SE "Mouse-Click" Trigger Upgrade
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For a customer. Filmed using my new digital microsope!
Mech Mod Cerakote
Просмотров 3810 месяцев назад
The whole process of cerakoting my Vesuvius mechanical tube mod.
Quick Build Video
Просмотров 102Год назад
Was originally going to do a full build with tech upgrades and all, but that would be WAY too much footage to go through.... So just did the hydro-dipping process, fucking up and having to start over, clear coating, and swapping out a premade button/trigger/bumper set.
AtomicMike's 2nd Halo 2 Montage
Просмотров 2003 года назад
4th Place in Halo Uploads' 2021 Montage Contest lets go!!! Here it is! Finally done! Incase anyone is interested (and full disclosure) TryhardCustoms is my side hustle. I basically do all the common upgrades, plus some uncommon ones (Bumper upgrades, Elite paddle-to-button conversions, ect.) Hope you enjoy the video, I've spent WAY too long on this LOL! EDIT: I probably should've put this in th...
AtomicMike's Halo 3 Montage
Просмотров 1073 года назад
Man this took me forever to finish... haha. Trying to get better at Halo 3, but Halo 2 is still my favorite. Its those button combos man I love em lol. Got a nasty Halo 2 vid almost finished, so check back for that, but for now hope you enjoy my mediocre Halo 3 gameplay! Lol BTW sorry for the re-upload, had to add the HaloUploads Logo for entry into the contest, and I thought I'd plug my custom...
AtomicMike's Halo 2 Mini-tage
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A short vid I put together, sniping and other random clips. Cartographer Project and Halo 2 MCC PC/Xbox.
Kiko's Volume 2 - Michael Selig
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My (unfinished) part from Kiko's Volume 2. Enjoy!
Kiko's Volume 2 - Jota Macias
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Jota's (unfinished) part from Kiko's Volume 2. Enjoy!
Kiko's Volume 2 - Martin Boyles and Tulio Pessotti
Просмотров 2958 лет назад
These are the shortest and most incomplete parts I have, so I figured I'd throw them together. Martin Boyles and Tulio Pessotti. Enjoy!
KV2 - Mike Throwaway
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An edit I just put together with a bunch of clips that didn't go into my part. Sketchy, warmups, park footy, and other throwaways. I'm gonna be uploading what I have of Kiko's Volume 2 shortly, so stay tuned! Unfortunately the project was never finished due to multiple factors including a bad injury I had that's going to keep me off the board for a while.
Sent you a message through your website over a week ago and also sent an email. Hope to get a response soon so we can do business! Considering trying this myself but looks like I would be spending 80 bucks in parts so just wondering how much it is to let the pro do it.
Wil the hall effect and the magnet in the tumpstick not interfere
@AtomicMike421 hello, I put one hall analog into my Elite V2 controller, exactly the one you have at the beginning of the video (green and blue side) after configuration through the Xbox application it is ok but only temporarily because the analog decalibrated after a while and you can do this forever. It seems that the controller's motherboard does not work with these analogs as well as with alps analogs, which is why the calibration resets after a short time.
@@przemekwitczak4243 yes the blue/green sensors have issues with the calibration software. You need to use either the Ginfulls with curved magnets OR what I use every time now are the Gulikit TMR sensors (no need to file the module, they fit right on it). However even doing it this way poses issues due to the magnetic stick bases, which is why I developed custom stick bases that are compatible with series 2 sticks to circumvent this issue.
Wait I thought with the new orange and black replacements you dont need to do all those extra step ???
@@duby149 this is true if you have access to calibration software, which I did not at the time of making this video... However now that I do, thankfully the calibration boards are a thing of the past haha.
Do you accept custom orders? My Elite 2 controller recently broke, and I was planning to buy a new one. This time, I’d like to upgrade it with a few features: 1. Hall effect joysticks 2. Clicky hair triggers 3. Back paddle enhancement pads 4. ABXY clicky buttons I also noticed that you replace bumpers and triggers with more durable ones, so I would like that as well.
After v5 and v51 are installed on the Xbox Series X controller, can I normally update the controller firmware when available and calibrate it from within the Xbox Series X itself? Why did those yellow hall effects cause a bug after calibration?
It's very important that if you go the route of calibration boards, you do NOT attempt calibrating using the Accessories App, as this can cause all kinds of problems with competing calibrations. Also, I have run into situations where the latest firmware caused excess jitter, so may be the case that rolling back firmware is necessary for the most stable performance using the calibration boards. If using Ginful curved magnets or Gulikit TMRs on Series X/S, I recommend NOT using calibration boards and instead using the accessories app to calibrate. If using any other kind of hall effects, then the calibration boards are the way to go.
@@AtomicMike421 Thanks for replying! I installed the v5 and v51 calibration boards on the Xbox Series X/S controller. I installed the hall effects from K-Silver. (It came with the manufacturer's recommended kit v5 and v51). My biggest question for those who installed the v5 and v51 PCBs would be whether they could update the controller's firmware normally or if there are problems when updating.
@@jonrodrigos yeah, I've had controllers that did have jitter problems after updating, and also controllers that did not have issues after updating. You can always roll back your firmware, so you can update and see if it works okay
perfect! thanks, I'll try to do that.
Hey there! I have a question, or rather need help 😅 I installed ginfull HE sticks in my Elite v1, manually calibrated them nearly perfectly but... When i install my back paddles, the right stick goes crazy! What gives? Any idea how can i fix that?
@@MrKingPing it's the magnet interference coming from the paddles I would think. I solve this on elite series 2 with MuMetal (info in description) I assume it would work on series 1 as well? May also want to make sure the paddle/magnet isn't actually making contact with one of the pins on the right stick, just a piece of electrical tape covering either the paddles/magnets from the inside, or the solder points of the right stick. If issue persists after the tape, then it's magnetic interference for sure
@@AtomicMike421 by electrical tape you mean the Faraday tape? Also shouldn't the magnets interfere right away after assembling the controller? Why are they going nuts only after mounting the back paddles? 😭😭
@@MrKingPing no electrical tape is just to prevent a short or any pin from the back of the stick module contacting the MuMetal. Not sure why the paddles themselves would change anything aside from maybe slightly altering the magnetic field already coming from the magnets..?
Amazing ❤
Thanks for fhe video. Im about to get started on my own ginfull v.5 upgrade in a few weeks but wondering where to go to unstand what you were soldering? I noticed you soldered some little resistors which threw me for a loop since i only though you needed to solder the pcb calibration boards to the main board.
@@deebs11218 those little diodes are only needed on Xbox, and should come with the calibration boards. Honestly I wouldn't recommend undertaking this as a first try at soldering, it's a bit more difficult than typical repair/upgrades.
@@AtomicMike421 I appreciate the warning and I've seen enough videos on this to know it isn't for the faint of heart. If I fail, I wont be too broken up about it.
what pcb board holder are you using?
These - www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832769564060.html?channel=twinner
Where I can buy this spring?
@@salvatoreverde9395 I use www.acxesspring.com/english/ for spring shopping. You'll need calipers to measure the spring you're replacing.
This looks sick! I already sent an email, can't wait to start discussing my controller with you
Hello, I dont get what the calibration board is needed for. Cant i just swap the standart sticks with hall effect sticks and calibrate through the little holes?
the little holes only calibrate the center point, and newer, more accurate hall effects dont have that option. the boards are mainly for calibrating range, ensuring you have full range in all directions as well as the range not going too far outside the circle in diagonals.
do Gulikit's TMR sensors give you any problem taking into consideration the thumbstick have magnets?
@@noremalos1445 so after lots of testing, I've found its doable, but I've started exclusively using custom stick bases I 3d print, with no magnets, and are able to adjust the tension gradually instead of only 3 settings. May make a video on them soon. 👍
Too bad your bumpers and paddles will break in a week
@@n64slayer nope cuz I replace those with far more durable ones haha
@AtomicMike421 that's fair but I'd rather get any other controller 😅
@@n64slayer haha hey man to each their own, I use an Elite Series 1 as my main LOL
@@AtomicMike421 I mainly use 3rd party because they are actually good out of the box 🤷♂️
I am currently only using the first alternative with the driver board, but I am having problems with the calibration. I can only get to mode A (Center Point) I can't get to mode B/S at all, what could be the problem? I'm desperate, since then I can't present my work
@@pavogear9190 if you can't get into mode b/s, then it probably has something to do with the soldering on either end of the diode. I would resolder those points, making sure the negative end is soldered to the pin, and positive end is soldered to the board.
@@AtomicMike421 Thank you for your answer. You mean the black diode that you also have to solder on, right?
@@pavogear9190 yep
Hey @AtomicMike421 do you have link to where you get your favor union Xbox Hall effects or a place you recommend? I’m having troubles finding them (only finding ps5 ones)
@@folgee7368 sure thing brother, here ya go: a.aliexpress.com/_mLcA588
@@AtomicMike421 Thank you brother!
A question, why did you change the green and blue joysticks that are specific for the Elite Series 2 controller, the side magnets for the yellow and black ones? I don't know if you already tried and they don't work well, or you like the way the yellow and black joystick magnets work better. Could you tell me why you changed them? Thank you very much, very good video!! since there is not much information about these joysticks for the Xbox Elite 2.
Yes it's absolutely not necessary, the v5 Ginfulls are slightly more accurate and a bit easier to calibrate, that's all.
I recognize that music : from uppbeat right😂
@@OldAndyFitia hahah good ear!
Thank you for this video. It answers a lot of questions that I had because you must be the only one to have really made a video on the installation of hall effects on an Elite 2. There are others but they systematically replaced the tension sticks adjustable by classic sticks which means that it was impossible for me to know if the magnetic part which allows changing the caps was causing interference which was until now my main question and concern. The fact that there really is such a fine material that acts as a magnetic shield encourages me a lot because I couldn't figure out if the ones I found were just a scam or if they really worked. I'm still waiting for some gear ordered on AliExpress to start my experience. I bought Elite 2 sticks sold with the calibration PCBs and I plan to put TMR modules in them (which I'm still waiting for) but all on a classic Series S/X controller (even if it means having to change the sticks, as much in take with more options). The TMRs theoretically have no interference with the controller triggers (compared to hall effects) and I am thinking of trying without the PCB. The fact that this is a regular controller without the magnets that you hide behind a magnetic shield saves me from having to worry about that. I just hope I don't have to buy any to stick some on the magnets in the cap.
@@thesilencer8074 I just did a controller just like that! Adjustable Tension Hall effects with TMR sensors on a Series X/S controller. I rolled the dice and used the App for calibration (it's randomly completely bricked controllers before) and luckily this time it turned out perfectly! Good luck on your project!
Where were you able to purchase ginfull v5 HE, I cant seem to find them :(
nvm, I reloded your video and the description gave them!
@@folgee7368 yup, sometimes they are called v4 SE or something.... But the important thing is the curved magnets.
@@AtomicMike421 What is the difference between version v3 with rectangular magnets and this version v4 with curved magnets?
@@danii1623 better circularity, easier calibration
I am testing some Hall Effect/TMR calibrations that were done NOT with these calibration boards, but with a pre-release version of an Xbox system update that added Elite Series 2 compatibility to the Accessories App Calibration. Results are good so far, so maybe soon we won't have a need for those boards anymore! 🤞🤞
Apparently, the application that Xbox launched to calibrate its joysticks is not compatible with magnetic joysticks, it does not detect them, and after performing the calibration they work worse than before. Have you tested the operation of this Xbox application to calibrate the joysticks, both with original joysticks and magnetic joysticks? Greetings!
@@danii1623 yes I've had both successes and failures using hall effects. It's risky because the app has bricked controllers of mine before... But the most recent 2 I did are working perfectly.
Good Shit, couldve had some Nu-metal while installing the Mu-metal.😂
When attempting to do Gulikit's TMR sensors would you still have to use a calibration pcb?
In my experience, it may be possible if you position and install the module PERFECTLY. Which isn't a super difficult thing to do on other controllers... However for whatever reason, it's way more common on the Series 2 to need a few adjustments to get the module perfectly level with the board. Also the perfect height of the module from the board is also needed. Too high and the thumbstick bases will rub against the inside of the frame and feel awful. But too "low" and range will be lost likely in diagonals. So to summarize, yes I do think it's possible, but the margin for error is so insanely small... So I certainly wouldn't count on it. Lol
Good job Brother
Nice video, nice to see how this actually works. I will be sending my Elite Series 2 in soon for this mod and a couple more, thank you for giving new life to my controller that lasted all of 3 months, that will likely now last for years.
Could I buy a controller and pay you to do this for me??
Could I buy a controller and pay you to do this for me??
Same spring as potentiometer analogs?
Nope shorter and wider than Alps brand potentiometer analogs, but favor union and c&k brand potentiometer analog springs should fit
i wanna decrease my tension. any spring for that?
@@OddManOut420 sure, I haven't done it yet, and you'd need to try out different sizes and test them, which isn't the quickest, easiest, or cheapest process... Lol but I typically use www.acxesspring.com/english/ for spring shopping
Can this be done while it's on the board ?
@@xDaWorsT13 unfortunately no
bro i did this mod exactly as you show on the video. the problem is when i press the button to activate the analog stick moves too, on both triggers this happen, do you know what can be?
Yes this is because there's a built in system to compensate for the effect of the triggers' magnets on the hall effects thumbsticks, I wasn't able to completely remove this but you can minimize it to a point where it barely registers in-game by adjusting the deadzone settings in the gamesir app
what kind of wire do u use?
This: a.co/d/8CNsLfo
What is the black putty that you used to stick these on? I'm trying to buy it so I can do it
It's just hot glue 👍
I have a question can you remap the paddle buttons to be the trigger function? I bought a PDP controller and it would map any button to the extra paddles besides the triggers
Like remapping through the controller or app instead of redoing circuits 😂
Ah, it's gone back to the customer so I can't test it to see... My custom rear buttons allow mapping triggers to them, but not sure if the gamesir can do it.
What kit for the triggers are you using ?
No kit, I just used Omron D2LS switches and some wire.
what kind of wire do u use?
nice
It has come to my attention I can't reach you through anything but RUclips. Do you have an email?
Hey bro, yeah shoot me an email at michael@tryhardcustoms.com
I love how the gunfire goes to the music.
Too sick. Cannot tell you the joy such a simple and subtlety well edited oldschool halo 2 montage brings to an oldhead like myself. Absolute pleasure to watch this, brought me back to the OG days of why we all wanted to make tages in the first place.
Thank you brother, much appreciated!
I probably should've put this in the credits, but the instant oversheild kill combo (BXR-RRBX-BXB) was my take on Tim Rager's INSANE combo (BXR-RRBX-YY-RRBX) which I attempted for countless hours but was never able to pull off. Tim's a fucking beast. LOL see him do it here: ruclips.net/video/pOeqSB7kVkk/видео.html
This was like a warm and attractive quilt that was woven with care and love--SOLID PRODUCTION!
hahah thanks brother!
Very nicely edited!
Wtf did he say?
Jota, Beast for days.
Killin' it! DO WORK
Keep killin' it, Mikey!
I used to deliver furniture there with my man Jorge.
Wow this was actually a really enjoyable watch, super surprised by a good chunk of these clips along with the editing. REALLY well synced for a H2 video which never happens. Really good double shot & quad shot syncing in here along with appropriate transitions. Solid af video man, your flow was great.
Thanks man that means a lot!!
He's keeping it strong.
nasty rrbx quads and loved the quad tac, smg jaro was a crazy surprise too LMAO. actually rare to see a h2 vid with proper editing effort nowadays so props for the spot on syncing!
Thanks bro! I really enjoyed your last H2 tage as well, was a very fun watch!
Woah does Dr Dre still exist to witness this. Oh snap you killed my old friend Tru D0G at 4:13 and Drew Overshield right before that haha
So sick man loved the flow of this!