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m.......maam maam could u possibly say the exact opposite of everything you just said for example instead of saying we are all doomed and we are all polluting the earth could you aay the planet is going to constantly improve, we have got pollution under our control! ?!:)

So in hindsight, "sustainable development" is an obvious oxymoron

Does someone maybe have a link to the original slides?

It was not stated or at least was not made clear - the date of the lecture was March 18, 1999. (Just 2 years before her untimely death.)

It is hard to not see them as predictions, and that is how these thinkers get dismissed in the growth mindset class

Who is our Dana these daze?

I have watched these videos twice and I am triple impressed!

She was such a great teacher! One of the smartest people of her generation!

It's sad to see after 24 years that Dana died, the world is in a situation that has no brake to stop it from falling. She was a true environmentalist with the hope for humanity but what we see today is far from it. WE ARE F***ED....

STOP COUGHING YOU FREAKS

Beautiful !!! 🎉 I was subscribed because of the donella meadows, but I am truly surprised and enjoyed this piece very much !

Boomers breeders and borrowers = parasite class. This woman and those like her = symbiotes. As long as parasites are tolerated and not exterminated.... No good will happe. If the club of Rome + WEF would give me the resources id gladly be the super villian this world needs. 6.5billion parasitic apes dead in less than 5 years. Then the symbiotes could live a fantastic life in harmony with nature in perpetuity. It's not as difficult to do as you believe. You just need the resources. Not nukes or bio weapons either.

God dang, Dana…Laying it down straight and true!

Many systems are not sustainable, until now.

Fine contribution to complex systems science-architecture-engineering and management !

Why don't these people get involved in politics. Here in 2022 watching the world burn and Dana already had it figured out so many years ago!

She's probably one of the most important persons ever on Earth

what a beautiful lecture!

Thank you for uploading! What year was this presentation from?

I don’t see how an ecologist, using traditional reductionist methods, would not come to the same conclusions and observations. Does this mean that all ecologists are system analysts? Is this something that was always there but now has I catchy name tag?

as relevant as ever. cannot go a single day without thinking and applying systems thinking. influenced my views on sustainability greatly, recognizing that we must address racial capitalism if we are to address environmental issues. nothing operates outside of each other. things as mundane as food relates back to politics and the economy. thank you dana for your wisdom

boooorrrrinnggg!!!!!

Jennifer thanks a lot for this. I hate that she has passed.

She passed away in February 2021, before 9/11. This talk happened in March 1999. Would have loved to hear her assessment of the pandemic, government response, and extreme inequality today.

@17:56 came to pass during the pandemic. She nailed it 20 years ago

@17:56 Here after quantitative easing and two years of the Fed buying $120B+ worth of bonds every month, inflating the stock market to all-time highs, giving Billions to Billionaires while shutting down small and medium businesses with mandatory shutdowns. She nailed this 20 years ago. Wow

Her point at 21:50 is so good. Talking about the economy outside of the environment is like talking about an organ trying to function outside of the body. It doesn’t. It ceases to work. Unfortunately, the US is getting ready to experience exactly what this means. Godspeed to anyone listening to her wisdom in 2022

Thank you, Jennifer, for posting the best of Donella’s wisdom - all uploaded before she left us. What an incredible mind. As important as Jane Jacobs. An incredibly smart and influential thinker.

As smart this woman is i can't fathom how she can't see that everything is pushed by population i.e. day by day more and more people being birthed into the world . That's the root of the problem . Here i have solved it for you .

And in 2021 . The end is nah 😂

What year is this?

"as the spirit moves me" - the solutions to our problems are with the spirit...tis a question not of the awareness that is in our heads but the awareness by which we live...blessings

Checkout The Venus Project for learning about sustainability and social sciences.

Donella Meadows is so powerful every time. Truly wish she was around :'(

3:43: I hate this dude who's interrupting her and talking over her. I understand that he wants to challenge her mindset and I appreciate that he's passionate about it. It was still very rude and one more data point in the "men can't seem to be respectful of a woman's expertise" argument.

Wow, can we make her president!? For decades I've thought that the human race is acting like cancer on the planet, mainly due to our growth based ways. She covers this and more in very informed ways.

Starts @6:30 or so.

A brilliant woman with so much wisdom. I wrote a dissertation on how to use systems thinking to problem solve in 2020. This is timeless knowledge.

Presentation maybe of 1993 or 1999 ?

She is really the ORIGINAL SOURCE OF SUSTAINABILITY, and many other people will follow her 👍🏾 So do I.... YES WE CAN 2016 - 2116 is an encouragement for mankind to save a sustainable biosphere on earth by a free decision for OneChildPolicy. To reduce worldpopulation from 7.4 Billion in 2016 to the tolerable size of TWO Billion (2x10^9) according to ecological research e. g. Donella and Dennis Meadows ('Beyond the Limits'), Stanford- University of California (Biologist Paul R. Ehrlich, 'The Population Bomb') and the BertTheAce Research-Institute for Ecology (Foundation, 'World Biosphere') we need FOUR Generations (100 years) of OneChildPolicy worldwide on a free decision. If we succeed with worldwide OCP for the coming 100 years, mankind has a good chance to reach a balance between consumption of natural resources, pollution and recovery of a sustainable biosphere for thousands of generations.......and isn't the care for our biosphere on earth a better option for mankind, than to try to escape to Mars, who did already loose his biosphere ? HISTORY will CONFIRM BertTheAce and his MASTERPLAN 'YES WE CAN 2016 - 2116' Link: ruclips.net/video/i48bb22fPdI/видео.html

YES WE CAN 2016 - 2116 is an encouragement for mankind to save a sustainable biosphere on earth by a free decision for OneChildPolicy. To reduce worldpopulation from 7.4 Billion in 2016 to the tolerable size of TWO Billion (2x10^9) according to ecological research e. g. Donella and Dennis Meadows ('Beyond the Limits'), Stanford- University of California (Biologist Paul R. Ehrlich, 'The Population Bomb') and the BertTheAce Research-Institute for Ecology (Foundation, 'World Biosphere') we need FOUR Generations (100 years) of OneChildPolicy worldwide on a free decision. If we succeed with worldwide OCP for the coming 100 years, mankind has a good chance to reach a balance between consumption of natural resources, pollution and recovery of a sustainable biosphere for thousands of generations.......and isn't the care for our biosphere on earth a better option for mankind, than to try to escape to Mars, who did already loose his biosphere ? HISTORY will CONFIRM BertTheAce and his MASTERPLAN 'YES WE CAN 2016 - 2116' Link: ruclips.net/video/i48bb22fPdI/видео.html

can anyone tell me when this lecture is from?

MS writes... About 18 years later, we are definitely witnessing the type of system collapses that Dana expected.

Fantastic lectures. As always!

When considering the behaviour of Presidents within the system, there are exceptions occasionally. Indeed. Had she lived she would have been interested to see how Trump is dismantling the system around him.

This video should have more views!!!

Great 14:42

Truly inspiring

28:30 these curves did not come true.

The system goal has to do with real human fulfillment, not getting more 😁