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This is a different from Guōmèngwěi does this one as well it is the yībǎilíngbā 一百零八 (108) pronounced suparinpei in Okinawan of his lóngzūnquán 龙尊拳(dragon respect boxing). The other form Guōkǒngxī is doing is from a different style Zhōuzihé 周子和 "Shushiwa" did, Shàolín-quán 少林拳 (Shaolin boxing) which tends to use numbers as their kata name over the poetic names. It is Yībǎilíngbā 一百零八 (108) aka "Suparenpei" and okre poetically Shàolín Shísān Tàibǎo 少林十三太保 (Shaolin Thirteen Great Heroes). It is also called Nánjí 南极 (south pole or southern extreme). Zhōuzihé/Shushiwa did a number of styles, most say he mastered 18. Amongst them are tiger, crane, snake, dog, cow, chicken, fish, monk, lion, Confucius boxing and Shaolin boxing. These 2 forms are the final forms of his Shaolin boxing and dragon boxing styles and both have been called suparinpei but the suparinpei of Shaolin and the suparinpei of dragon boxing. There is also a suparinpei of his chicken boxing and tiger boxing, among others. There is lots more information on the Shushiwa Facebook page and you can find and message me there as well. Justin LaVasse 🙇‍♂️

Here is Guōmèngwěi doing the Yībǎilíngbā 一百零八 (108) aka "Suparenpei" of Zhōuzihé 周子和 Shushiwas' lóngzūnquán 龙尊拳 (dragon respect boxing). ruclips.net/user/shortscEcQXdS2RGY?si=bXGbDgip1AVC5VKV

@@shushiwa3479 Yes, I can see Uechi elements here as well, although, the performance of the Chinese kata is so fast they are sometimes difficult to see. I have to watch them several times before I can begin picking out these elements. I see portions of the kata you provided the link for as well as the "Shaolin Thirteen Great Heroes" above, that remind me of portions of Seisan, specifically. I'm kinda the "unofficial historian" of my dojo and really appreciate the history of Shushiwa, Uechi Kanbun Sensei, and Uechi Ryu in general. The video of Shushiwa's home and even some of the murals he had painted on the walls was phenomenal. Thanks again for all your hard work! I'll continue to watch and learn! Domo arigato!

I recognized the name from mínghèquán 鳴鶴拳 but I don't know the form and so I confirmed with Simon Lailey that is was essentially the same form. There are 2 other unarmed crane forms by Guōkǒngxī and his student. I will have to find them and see how they compare to other crane lineage. I wonder if they can be identified and if they are also related to mínghèquán 鳴鶴拳 or another lineage. 🤷‍♂️

@@shushiwa3479 I can tell you if I see them.

It isn't my video I just reposted it. I believe it is from one of Guōmèngwěi's Chinese social media accounts but those are so hard to view outside of China. I thought thinknvideos are worth reposting so those of us outside of China can see them. I am learning this form but a different variant. I am now working in changing my forms from Guōkǒngxī to match the current performance of his son Guōmèngwěi and hopefully go to China and learn directly from him. Maybe can learn the basics her by imitation this video or work with me and then go together to China or help in the endeavor to help someone go and return with direct instruction to system 🤷‍♂️ my dream. 🙇‍♂️

The form on the left is I believe Nǚrén quán 女人拳 (woman boxing), on the right is Sìhéquán 四合拳 (4 method boxing) in the style of the lóng hè hǔ jīn shī 龍鶴虎金狮 (dragon, crane, tiger, Golden lion). I do Sìhéquán 四合拳 (4 method boxing) and while I don't do Èrshíbābù 二十八步 (28 steps) I don't see a resemblance to this from. Maybe you meant to respond to my other videos of Èrshíbāxiù 二十八宿 Twenty-eight constellations which is also called Èrshíbābù (28 steps) and is essential the same from as nipaipo.

a barehand form for the battlefield sounds strange, indeed

I was just learning this today to add to my daily practice. So far today I have done: 5/31/2024 Friday 3 times with corrections Jī shān quán 积山拳 (Jinshan Boxing) měnghǔ shēnyāo 猛虎伸腰 (fierce tiger stretches waist) Sǎnfǎ 伞法 (umbrella method) Yǒngchūn báihè quán sān zhàn 永春白鹤拳三站 Youngchun white crane sanchin Yǒngfú 永福 Hǔzūnquán 虎尊拳 (tiger respect boxing) Sānzhàn 三战 (three wars) Guōjiāquán 郭家拳 (Guo family boxing) 1 Xiàshānhǔ 下山虎 (descend mountain tiger) 2 Shàngshān hǔ 上山虎 (ascending mountain tiger) 3 Chūlánhǔ 出栏虎 (exit the enclosure tiger) 4 Sìhéquán 四合拳 (4 method boxing) 5 Yībǎilíngbāshì 一百零八式 (One hundred and eight froms) aka suparenpei. Shàolín shísān tàibǎo 少林十三太保 Tiě zhǐ gōng 铁指功 (iron finger technique Tiě shā zhǎng 铁沙掌 (Iron palm skill) Horse stance stretching yāfǎ 鸭法 (duck method) boxing, river bank walking 1, 2 & 3 Hǔxíngquán 虎形拳 (tiger shaped boxing) 1 Sānzhàn 三战 (three wars) 2 Sìmén 四门 (four gates) 3 Wǔjī 五基 (five elements) 4 Bāguà 八卦 (eight divinatory trigrams) 5 Kǎnguà 坎卦 (Kǎnguà trigram) 6 Sānshíliù shǒu 三十六手 (Thirty-six hands) 7 Yībǎilíngbāshì 一百零八式 (One hundred and eight froms) aka suparenpei Shǎolín A. èrshísì shì" 二十四式 (24 forms) B. sānshíliù shì 三十六式 (sanseirui) C. Hǔxíng sìshíbā shì 虎形四十八式 (tiger shaped 48 forms) Lǎohǔdiào 老虎吊 (grand tiger hang) 1 diàowǔjīn 吊五筋 (support the five muscles of the neck) 2 tāgǔgōng 塌骨功 (collapse the bones training) 3 tāoqìgōng 掏气功 (clearing out qìgōng 气功) Uechi Ryu 上地流 1 Sanchin 三戦 2 Toude seisan 唐手十三 (Chinese Hand 13) 3 sandairui 三十六 4 Zhōuzhènqún 周振群 Suparinpei 壹百零八 Motobu-ryu Motode aka Shuri Sanchin 本部流夫婦手 Aka 首里三戦 Okinawan karate done open hand with boshiken and nukite in hypothetical old style before diverging from Uechi Ryu: Goju-ryu 剛柔流 sanchin 三戦 Goju-ryu 剛柔流 seisan 十三 Shuri-te 首里手 sanchin 三戦 Shuri-te 首里手 seisan 十三 Ishimine-ryū 石峰流 Kumadī Sanchin 熊手三戦 Bear hand sanchin reconstruction Using 3x punch from goju Ryu and Motobu-ryu Motode wa-uke for ending Probably going to do arm and leg conditioning with a mallet, ishi-sashi 石錠 (stone lock), chikara ishi 力石 (power stone) and chii-ishi 鎚石 (stone club) but not sure. Want to learn this and do some translations too. Working on translating the tiger boxing suparinpei from Zhangtianci. A different one that you learned. I do the form but there is more detail and application in the book.

Many a teacher has told me that as do I to my students.

There is a rumor Uechi Kanbun did a staff form, some say from his father or for Okinawan festivals, others that he learned on in China from Guōkǒngxī as part of the art and most lineages lost it. Who knows what if any of that is true but makes me wonder. 🤷‍♂️

I like this one and it is tiger, dragon, crane like Uechi Ryu, plus golden lion.

I think some of these forms and drills are obviously more for entertainment but that could have been part of what Zhōuzihé 周子和 "Shushiwa" did. Some like tiger boxing might have been dynamic, strong and powerful like the tiger and others like monkey, chicken and duck more comedic in there performance. 🤷‍♂️

Yes maybe. Maybe Kambun was more interested in the combative applications and some of Zhōuzihé's 周子和 "Shushiwa's" students more interested in the village entertainment aspects. Still this is an important part of the history that needs to be documented and researched. Without seen examples of Zhōuzihé/Shushiwa's descendant schools we don't know what questions to ask or if they are truly related. We may need to adjust our assumptions about Zhōuzihé/Shushiwa, Kanbun and Pangainoon 半硬軟.

I was blown away to find this footage. 🤯

Your research is awesome. Thank you.@@shushiwa3479

This could represent the original crane system used to create Pangainoon 半硬軟. I also believe it to be Fēi hè quán 飞鹤拳 (flying crane boxing) and I may have found more footage of thisbfork and a second one practiced in the lineage of Guōkǒngxī which mayne come from Zhōuzihé 周子和 "Shushiwa".

Excellent 👍

I believe Nán shàolín 南少林(southern boxing) adheres to a common set of principles from a shared origin of the created niúfǎ 牛法 (cow method) created by Zhāngcíguān 张慈观 circa 1150. His descendants them applied the same principles to other animals imitations and literary and historical figures like Confucius here, tiger, crane and so on but 🤷‍♂️

@@shushiwa3479 this is very interesting, thank you very much for the information and video, but I honestly see more common and similar in the techniques of the crane Baihe (Minhe) Quan or in Lun (dragon) Quan, and in Wuzong Quan (fist of five ancestors) than in these forms. I could be wrong, please excuse me.

@@evgenyrybin2394 Guōkǒngxī was a collector of rare martial arts much like Zhōuzihé. It is possible some of these do not come from Zhōuzihé's lineage or they are highly influenced by the other arts he learned. It is also possible Zhōuzihé/Shushiwa was not the teacher of Uechi Kanbun. Until recently not much was know outside China about Guōkǒngxī and his style other than Suparinpei so I think it is important to share these videos so we can get a clear view of his style and then evaluate the historical link and suparinpei. 🙇‍♂️

@@shushiwa3479 thank you very much for the answers and interesting information, I am very grateful for the videos that you post on RUclips, I really like them. I agree that Shu Shi Wa was more of a senior comrade and his style was a mix of different techniques.

Simon Lailey called it Suparinpei 一百零八 (108) when he learned ot from Guōkǒngxī 郭孔熙 but itnis clearly labled here in Chinese as Shàolín Shísān Tàibǎo 少林十三太保 (Shaolin Thirteen Great Heroes). Kata cam have alternate names, I believe their are poetic and more standard universal names. sanseiryu 三十六 can be called Shàngshānhǔ 上山虎 (ascend mountain tiger) while Sìmén 四门 can be called Xiàshānhǔ 下山虎 (tiger descends the mountain) and may a name for seisan 十三. This form is also called Nánjí 南极(southern extreme) by Guōkǒnxī.

Yes Simon Lailey says this form is called Suparinpei but it is labled her under a alternate poetic name. I have sen Sanchin is tiger boxing called fire ice tiger stretches his claws and in Chicken boxing sanchin is also called a single row of incense. Forms seam to have poetic names within the style and more standard general names outside.

Nice to see you here, Seizan Sensei. Your input and insight are most appreciated! 🥋🙏🏻

Thank you. I don't show upon the Net much these days, too busy writing and teaching. Have we met before?@@PaSaRyuMrPhoenix

We’ve “met” via an email conversation just prior to the publication of your first book, “Bunburyodo: History, Philosophy, and Training Concepts Of The Okinawa KarateDo UechiRyu Zankai,” which I’ve purchased as well as volume two. Thoroughly enjoyed both. I’m a student of Scott Romiza Sensei.

The vertical nukite occur in Zhāngtiāncì's lineage as well. I think a lot of the young let generation don't know about older variations of our techniques which makes it harder to them to evaluate these forms. It is essential for people like you to share your input. Thank you sir. 🙇‍♂️ Also Shàngshānhǔ 上山虎 (ascend mountain tiger) seams to be an alternative poetic name for Sìmén 四门 (4 directions) which itself could be another name for seisan 十三. I don't see a 1:1 correspondence with our seisan but it is interesting. Zhāngtiāncì's 张天赐 sìmén 四门 is different but also shares some technical similarities with Uechi ryu. 🤷‍♂️ Also

Yes it is very interesting variation of Uechi Ryu seisan.

It is a version of Uechi-ryu done by the Kofukan association of Shito-ryu which absorbed the kata of Uechi Kanbun's student Sakihama Seijiro. There is more information in the Shushiwa Facebook page if your are interested or message me

it is a version of Uechi Sanseiryu as performed by the Kofukan association of Shito Ryu, originally coming from one of Uechi Kanbuns' student Sakihama Seijiro.

You had training with breyette Sensei?

@@mohann8599 yes, he is my teacher.