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He normally has bad rolls but this game was next level and at a certain point.... too much becomes too much haha

I understand both lists look pretty daunting but we both like to play quite competitive lists against each other We've done so for years already haha

@@TodouIota fair enough

Haha the emotions run high when the dice are ruining plans!

Glad to hear you liked it! Ogres are indeed great to see on the battlefield 👌

Haha the dice gods were playing us this match. Glad you liked it!

True true, made that mistake once.

Makes the most sense indeed!

That's right! There were a couple of mistakes made I believe during the game but then again there are so many rules haha

@@TodouIota the game is young, there gonna be many mistakes made in the future 😉

do you know which section this rule is under?

@@simonadams1285 Under the section 'Running down the foe' last paragraph. Here is the link to the rule: tow.whfb.app/movement-in-detail/running-down-the-foe

@@simonadams1285 running down the foe, p.129

Sometimes, Chaos interferes with the mortal realm and the dice rolls... 😂

Thank you! We'll do👌

Thanks, will do!

Very nice models indeed!

Thank you very much!

True! They didn't suffer heavy casualties. Well pointed out good sir.

@@TodouIota Damn...and I even know I made that mistake before! Thanks for pointing it out as I'm now decided on never making that mistake again.

​@@ThePaintedHope An excellent decision Sir!

Haha agreed! xD

Thank you!!

Thank you! Honestly, daemons aren't that bad in my opinion! (Unless you face WoC or Helfs because of all the magic attacks.) The KoS is especially devastating against ogres with her killing blow attacks👌.

Haha thank you for the shoutout! I can tell you with certainty that he is working on it! (Slowely but steadily )

100% agreed!🙌

@ThePaintedHope Thanks for pointing that out! Fortunately, they turned around and were able to come closer the turn after so fortunately it didn't have a big impact on the game.

Old World is really nice! Make sure to try it out :D

@@TodouIota I will!

Yes that's right! Seems we made a big mistake there😅

You can’t counter charge again inf ( démon prince )

@@bryandeconinck2123 Well noticed! I only see now that Daemon Princes are monstrous infantry and aren't monsters. Will remember that for next time👌

My pleasure! Glad you liked it.

​@@TodouIota Considering that you also play demons, I would like to ask you a question: here in Italy a discussion has arisen regarding the doubt whether the furies count or not as a marked troop to unlock the slot for the heralds, all this following the update of the army builder which it does not make them appear as marked troops. I wanted to ask you how everything is understood

@@davideallegra8022 I'm not sure if I completely understand the question but as far as I am concerned, furies can always be taken as a core option and do not have a daemonic alignment (unless you pay the upgrade) and restriction as bloodletters, plaguebearers, horros or daemonettes.

@@TodouIota Yes obviously I meant if the furies, after having paid the mark, gave you the possibility of placing a herald of the same God. If I understood correctly, if for example you want a herald of Tzeentch you also place a unit of horrors or flamers or screamers etc. but not the furies marked Tzeentch. Correct?

@@davideallegra8022 I see now, sorry I misunderstood. This is the rule: "A character with a Daemonic Alignment can only join a unit with the same Daemonic Alignment, or with no Daemonic Alignment" Since you choose the alignment of the furies during listbuilding you can have a herald of Tzeentch join a unit of Tzeentch furies unless it is stated otherwise but I can't find anything that contradicts the above rule. So in my opinion, yes you can make the herald join a unit of furies with the same alignment.

Never thought of those skills! Thanks for pointing that out, gonna try them.

​​​@@TodouIotaespecially upgraded, more, more makes him taunt and gives him special tokens when he takes damage. Unupgraded each token gives 10% health, so up to 30% if you have all 3 tokens on him. Upgraded is 15%, times 3 is a whopping 45% of his health, and several skills damage him including undying which will proc an additional token, allowing him to heal most of his health with no need for him to be below a certain amount of health. If you pair him with an alchemist plague doctor they can inflict a lot of blight on the enemy, and necrosis isn't a bad skill for damage if you go with this. It can bring many enemies to a point where the blight will just kill them and heals flagellant too. Another thing with plague doctor, she can remove the taunt from flagellant to heal him with indiscriminate science, which doesn't remove the tokens you get from More, More!

​@@ghoulishgoober3122damn that sounds strong! Do you think he can tank everything so I can swap out the man-at-arms for smt else?

Hey, thanks for the tip! Do you think I should better switch out the flagellant then because he relies so much on blight damage?

@@TodouIota Only if you want to, flagellant is good even if you are not dealing damage over time XD. Try to think on the team like: who's doing damage? How? who is taking the damage? who is stress healing? who is healing? and who is doing someone else's job? You can leave the flagellant on the team and put him to tank the damage, but then man at arms can also tank the damage, you can put him to focus on heal, but then occultist is also healing your team, you can focus on stress heal but then jester is in the area. What you need is someone to hit the back lung, try finding someone to do this and think who will you take out for him. Depending on who you briging in, you could take out anyone. I think teambuilding is the best part os this game, so that's why im being vague about it. Anyway, just have fun. Try stuff.

Thanks for the advice! Managed to defeat him today but lost everyone except the Jester haha. Gonna experiment with some other team setups.

@@TodouIota good job man! good thing you could make it, im trying to defeat him with the team "THE WALL" but no good til now. Good luck on your future runs.

Thank you! Heard that chapter three is terrible, so am a bit worried with starting that one haha.

Glad you liked it!

Thank you!!

Thank you! By the Emperor! You are right, what a huge mistake on my part. Thank you for pointing that out! Have to note that down haha

Thanks for the feedback! Will put it lower next time👍

Understandable! It's not easy to balance the board and the dice box, would be nice to have two seperate cameras. Perhaps in the future!

With pleasure! We tend to switch the formats up👌

Glad to hear! Thank you☺️

Agreed! Timo is a very good Ogre player, I have yet to win a match against him haha

Haha I'm sorry they asked me to not have their faces in the video!

Thanks for the advice! Peter indeed later during the match found out about the ward saves of his chaos knights. However, at that point they were already destroyed. But now we both know for next time! (Peter has many many armies so sometimes rules tend to be forgotten haha)

@@TodouIota good :)

They were doing outstandingly well!

Much appreciated, happy you liked it!☺️

Understandable! But infantry with spears having first strike when they get charged then you mean? Now they get a +1 on initiative but maybe that is too little.

@@TodouIota yeah the +1 Initiative is so useless I hardly remember to use it. Especially since if they get charged chances are the other unit is going to get a +3 to theirs!

@@nichy777 I'm thinking now, maybe when High Elf spearmen/Lotheren Sea guards get charged by zombies/skellies haha I think in this situation the elves will strike first!

@@TodouIota haha yeah you are problem right! Doesn't help me and my poor Empire state troops :(

@@nichy777 True! Maybe in a very exceptional situation where you beforehand managed to lower the enemy's iniative🤔

Agreed! Especially the first one is very weird. A full plate knight with barding and shield could potentially still save a cannonball which makes no sense realistically haha

The pleasure is mine! And yea I think as a gentleman's rule players have to limit some things when playing only 1000p battles. (Like not a dragon in such small games. )

That is a good one! Will tell GladeLord about it.

Thank you for the advice! Oh yea completely forgot about that last one. But since daemons are unbreakable they will always just give ground right if they lose cc?

@@TodouIota Yes but there were a couple times when the empire was badly outnumbered and fell back rather then fled. If I remember correctly.

Ah yes then that was definitely a mistake. Thanks for pointing that out!👍

@@TodouIota Loved the game though, the short format is perfect.

Thanks! We try to keep it around 30min because we also feel that if the vids are too long it's not that interesting to watch.

Glad you liked it! We will for sure!

Yea haha, didn't see that one coming!

@@TodouIota Can you deploy out of range at the start to avoid that?

@@SGProductions87 if the opponent has one cannon then perhaps, but with multiple 48" cannons it's almost impossible to hide. Maybe in a corner at the edge of the battlefield 🤔

@@TodouIota what about hiding behind buildings?

@@SGProductions87 Good point, however the Soul Grinder has a massive base and is also a large target. Which makes it very hard to hide the whole model behind anything.

Just did, thanks for the tip!!

@@TodouIota keep these style/format/length of Bat Reps coming, they are very good 👍😎

Thanks for the feedback! Will do brother ;)

Thank you very much! Am quite sad that I lost some of the footage.. But am glad you liked it👌

Thank you! I painted the slaughtermaster many years ago but when my good friend Timo wanted to started playing he bought my small ogre force. Ogres got fun sculpts, my fav is the maneater that looks like a pirate haha

I agree but I do have the feeling that basic skellies have quite a lot of staying power for how much they costs since they implemented rules that reduces the amount of wounds you lose when you've lost combat

@@TodouIota A massive block of Cohort in the Royal army is actually pretty scary, being able to move or stand and fire plus having spears is great. They just suffer from the fact that WS2 means you're going to lose a lot at once, and then Step Up means you're losing twice as many attacks with your back row getting taken out of the fight too. So if you only run, say 7 wide and lose 5 skeletons, you've lost 10 attacks and now only have 4, most of which are probably going to miss. It's too bad you need to be thinking in 15-20+ wide. They just have a terrible combination of low WS, low Init, and wanting the second row to attack. I think you can make an army work, it's just that most people, especially those coming from previous editions, would rather play with elite blocks of WS and I 4-5 in 7x3, and Tomb Kings can't do that. They either rely on constructs or wizards + casket shooting if they don't play the Dragon.

@@MattTrussell Yea I see what you mean. I kinda got the feeling that the dragon is an auto include to have the army being able to do some damage. I did manage to stall a lot with a royal cohort. Just challenging the enemy dragonlord several times haha

@@TodouIota Dragons are good for damage, but they're not as good as debuffing leadership and using the casket bound spell. Dragons' big thing is being able to tank anything on the board, so they can run up and engage the enemy dragon, keeping it from quickly deleting your whole army. All that said, I've found most people tend not to bring the big guns at 1000 points, because everyone realizes it's not much fun. I get the urge to play shorter games that you can actually finish in a few hours, but Games Workshop games have never been particularly good at being balanced under 2000 points.

@@MattTrussell Smaller games are fun without dragons but I mostly play 2k battles. Normally I tend to finish a game in 4h even with filming but there is almost no other talking and just focussing on the game haha

Thanks!👌

And only infantry blocks should give close order bonus.

Well the good thing is that according to the latest FAQ you can only use one armour save. Say for example my TK lord has the Armour of the Ages, then if I want to use the full effect I have to use the light armour save and cannot use the full plate armour of the bone dragon.