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TGrog is trying to help us. Other people are trying to help him. Neither are talking to each other.

The dish-smashing wife was Kathy Keller, surviving spouse of Tim Keller. She chose violence with the china. Brilliant woman.

39:03 "The ability of your vote to change the outcome of an election is much smaller than its ability to change your own mind and heart" 🎯

19:46 - Re: Holding the words higher than the person. Point well received tbh, but read Wendell Berrys essay collection “Standing by Words” for fresh take. I’m not sure it’s ‘that easy’ because our words may have, at least, something to do with our integrity, especially if we aim our art (poetry) at - or derive it from - the Beautiful. Why is it that Jesus can stand behind His words (think parables)? The tongue setting fire & all that.

... and then move on... --- moving on is kind of a miracle

communication is hard

RIP. Once upon a time he was a great.

Late to the party but looking forward to this. Trying to get my hands on the book without draining my bank account.

Oh, first!

I really like listening to Chris Green. I think we have very similar views although we've both approached the problem from very different directions and use very different language to try and share our, our what? Thoughts? Experiences? Awareness? God? Luke, you're good with words, what word am I looking for?

bless u, Luke Thompson

That plunge guy staring at the camera is unsettling. Once past the Halloween speech it gets better.

Right out of the gate, garden of eden, choice is of highest importance. If anilization was the solution, that was the time to do it: eden 2.0. But the proffered solution is grace.

Luke, I find your video position/background very intriguing. I picture you sitting at the kitchen table and behind you is the back door. But why is there a curtain? And if that is the kitchen table, does your family never eat? Dont tell me! Dont draw a picture. I want to keep wondering about it.

Jeremy, you did a good job!

This is an extremely important conversation that nobody is really having

Fantastic glimpses of insights specially at the end of this stream …the Jewish …Old Testament perspective trough Chezis perspective ..summary 🧡🙏🏼

How interesting. I was searching for the Owen Barfield article and stumbled upon a video by Grail Country (I'm already subscribed). Cheers

"3rd revelation" mildly mind blowing

I thought for a moment she may be a representation of the Holy Spirit in the life of a new believer but I would have to reread it more closely to suss that out…

I was thinking that the woman could be a personification of beauty. The story is his developing relationship with beauty. This is commensurate with the coming of age theme that seems to permeate Fantastes itself and echos the theme from earlier in the story with the alabaster lady. His admiration of her starts from a distance and is only visual, but he longs for it to be instantiated, similar to how a man may become interested in a woman.

Loved the contrast between the sermon and the creativity writer - something to ponder. And I could just listen to Shari forever..

Is there a place for finitude & mystery in you all's perspectives? It seems like you're mostly 'after' /desirous of definitions and conceptual clarities as if humans might be 'right' or 'more correct' about the infinite cosmos in which they hold together ... I enjoyed much of the multilogue as various responses to mysteries... possibilities and glints of human participability (like 'air' 'bees' 'wet' etc)... but not as a way to have an infinite view or 'be like God'?

He had to die because sacrificial love is the highest kind of love. But it wasn't just his life that he offered.

Have you guys read Marcel Mauss? He is another author central to transactional issues.

1:54:14 Jeremy on demonic time machines. ❤

The convo around 1:41:00 about architecture and design is excellent.

Girard applies his anthropological lens and the lens he derived from previous works. He is not discussing theology. Girards anthropology is materialistic, at least to begin with.

do you have any plans to talk about Catholic or Protestant saints?

This was very rich, thank you! The Augustinianism of Girard is an important point to bring up; I recall hearing in some discussion that apparently Girard had said that most of what he talks about is already in Augustine.

18:00 One hundred percent agree with Yosef here. Read the whole book and don't be dismissive or light about ANY of it, not even what Job's friends say.

14:50 Job is being made a scapegoat by the people, because that is what is needed for the transactional/karmic system. Maybe I should say nature to our reality. Sowing and reaping. But the whole of life is about more than that, because "God has set the world in their hearts". Did Job commit sin? Did Jesus commit sin? Why does that even matter?

10:00 "All is hevel."

Girard is a "clever" thinker. I intend "clever" in the most disparaging way possible. His ideas sound good when you are just looking for a "clever" story. In other words, about as contrived as it gets.

I listen to Kingsnorth lecture, but I don't think in terms of Civilization he considered how Christianity renewed or redefined Civilization. I think that there is a clear difference, to at least the moral posture of ancient Civilizations to Civilizations influenced by Christianity. I think even reading Girard, it's clear there, that the concern for the victims and the weak is something that follows Civilizations touched by Christianity. The question is, should Christians just abandon Civilization all together, give it up to other ideologies and head for an ascetic life? That's really what I couldn't factor from his lecture.

Nate bringing the heat recently!!! Ty ty ty for this

Awesome!!

Idk exactly when this was recorded, but Kingsnorth published "The Moses Option" Nov 18. That essay confirms Shari's point about how Paul has changed and isn't looking to provide "answers".

Thanks for this Nate! Truly inspiring ❤

01:44:16 Nate said the marker of civilization is scarcity. To me the marker is abundance, public inheritance. Libraries, cathedrals, roads, discoveries this generation enjoys but did not build.

I appreciate Luke giving me the opportunity to hijack the livestream 😂. I also appreciate the incisive pushback from Nico today and it had me thinking more on the notion of the plus sum/non-zero sum paradigm and they dynamic of dialectic opposition - in this case the differences in our respective positions. There is that plus sum paradigm that can come to play in oppositional dialogue so long as mutual understanding and a narrowing of relational distance can be closed (in my mind that is a win-win even when a full reconciliation of viewpoints remains elusive). It’s an added layer to the concept that I want to explore more in the future for sure.

This in light of the mystery of how we walk with the Devine inspired by C.S. Lewis: the words of Matthew 10:34-36, Not peace, but a sword? It seems almost unthinkable. But as I turn it over in my mind, I cannot help but see how it rings true in my experience, in every conflict, every division-even the sharpest and most painful, in my life, uncovers something greater: LOVE “unyielding love that refines, like fire through gold.” I cannot fully understand it, but I am confident that“the blade that divides is wielded with purpose. And though it cuts deeply, it is LOVE that always has the final word.” “God is LOVE “ We are the garden 🪴

Luke, one of the things missed is confrontation is uncomfortable but many just listen to their "enemies" all the time in the TLC,

Jed closed this out like a boss. Thanks, friend. ❤ As always, lots of good things said after me. Clip it, PVK.

Amazing to me the way the princess procliams her love is to say that she will be his servant forever.

I just looked it up. Somnambulist is a person who sleepwalks.

Dr. Deane and Nate, thank you so very much for having this conversation. You have both enriched me with your Godly, thoughtful, and joyful approach to theology. It’s been helpful to me to see theology used as an icon and not an idol. To see it as an act of participation with the Trinity. Not great with my words, especially not in a technical sense. Let’s just say you both are helpful in my Christian journey towards Truth and Life, in an everyday way. That’s pretty cool and I’m thankful to God for it. Nate, I will pay extra attention to you and your family in my prayers concerning your health. It was lovely to see you and David touch on that. A very human and lovely part of your conversation. God bless you both.

Great conversation. 👍Look forward to reading David's book.

JESUS CHRIST MY LORD & SAVIOR 🙏

The scripture "forgetting that which is behind and pressing forward" appears in Philippians 3:13: