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Thank you gentlemen for these trainings.

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Really helpful thanks guys

I’m actively planting a church. It’s not been fun. Fundraising is a soul crushing task for me and my family. To everyone giving it the side eye please understand how stressful being a pastor in poverty is. So “targeting wealthy donors” is a way to circumvent closing a church plant due to lack of funding. I would also recommend making evangelism and discipleship the bedrock of the plant. If the goal was to grow a bigger church for new Christians moving into the area or whatever letting local churches grow and expand is wonderful! Splitting a congregation into multiple churches is a great way to get the local church growing by adding space, but I wouldn’t call it planting per se. we want to create a church culture where evangelism is everyone’s responsibility and discipleship is the next step for every Christian. We all have growth needs and we all have the need to share what we’ve learned, it’s a joy to be in the discipleship process. My last thought is understanding that all of the Christian Church belongs to Christ. It’s success can’t be measured by us. Even churches we call “failing” may be serving their exact purpose according to God. The kingdom doesn’t rest on our shoulders but through the Holy Spirit. Any churches growth ultimately is through the power of the Holy Spirit and not the strategy of the planter. That’s my opinion on it anyway.

I LOVE HOW AMERICA HAS TURNED PREACHING INTO A CAREER TO BE JUDGED AND CRITICIZED.

THE ANSWER, AS USUAL, IS BOTH. BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT CAPABLE OF SEEING BOTH SIDES.

My husband has Pastored a church for 10 years now. He does not receive a paycheck. The church does pay for a vehicle for him which is a huge help for our finances. I work full time now but would like to switch to putting more time into ministry and writing for ministry. Also, my husband would love to not work outside the church for income. He'd love to focus on the church every day.

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I hear many pastors uphold the idea of expository preaching as if topical preaching is inferior, all the while they are themselves preaching topically as they “work through” a book of the Bible. At best you can call it “topical exposition”. They work their way through a book of the Bible, very often skipping large passages of scripture (so not actually going through the whole book) and they have a clear agenda that is fit into the passages. It’s as if someone came up with a curriculum specifically designed for this… so many do it and it has become so obvious that they have several, say, 10 various topics that are then found to be supported throughout the text and they work it out week by week. The worst part about it is that many times the biblical text is turned on it’s head in order to suit this painfully obvious agenda. Are there themes throughout scripture? Of course… but it’s also pretty obvious that there are a few topics pastor’s favor and love to hit on over and over while pretending to preach Expositionally. It’s a nice cover, convincing your congregation that you aren’t preaching topically when you clearly are. I dunno what to call that. 🤔 maybe “deceptive” is a good word for it.

All I’m gonna say is y’all really had to stretch to find issues with expository preaching when they all boiled down to presentation. We don’t “topical study” any other book, why do we think it’s ok to do it to scripture. Let scripture interpret itself.

Thanks for nice information thank you Jesus

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Wow I have already began sorting out my thoughts and coming up with a plan to make this manageable. Thanks again. Chef's kiss to both of you. This was good for me 😊

Love this video. Opened up my mind on how to go about preparing My message. I didn't realize until now how Hasty I am. When I get something in my mind I feel/felt like I have to write it out All of it now. But my thoughts overwhelm me and I am flooded with so much. I just also learned that I can pick the day to talk about my message and work on it in manageable pieces and it will give me time to think about my audience and the level they may be on. I've been studying the Bible now for 42 years now and have learned a great deal. I just didn't know how to share it effectively. This is awesome 😊

Thank you!

A few days ago, I had to pause after realizing how much I had strayed from context because I was preparing a topical sermon. I like expository sermons more.

( Church of the seven thunders). The God of Israel says to you, you are a liar you cannot repent this is what your fate will be. and the devil that decevied them was thrown into the lake of fire where the beast and the false lying preacher will be and they shall be tormented day and night forever and ever. Rev 20: 10). this is the fate of all those that lied to Gods people.😅

Sitting here wondering how Jesus and the early church survived without all these great ideas.The Lord builds His church. We just need to be faithful in loving and serving His sheep.

Here's another principle I like.....all church employees sign the NDA so you can't talk about anything bad that is going on within the church....otherwise the church will sue you.

I like the one Megachurch principle that goes on Joel Osteen's church.....hide 600 thousand dollars in the wall in the men's bathroom after you report it stolen to the authorities and the insurance company for "contingency purposes"....

Thank You. Excellent plan.

Fun fact, Barq's has caffeine.

I guess church graphic design is pretty niche. This video is a lot of effort for such few views and subscribers.

I absolutely love my small church. Would never go to a mega again!

Seven Reasons Why You Must Invest in Personal Development 1. You don't have a choice (Hebrews 12:1-2) 2. Change waits for no one 3. Relationship builders 4. Stay short 5. Personal safety 6. Healthy pastors makes a healthy Church 7. A guide needs a map

if you wait till Thursday for a Sunday sermon thats your own fault. how stupid

Dude just threw topical preaching under the bus... "over and over"...... seriously.... there are 52 weeks in a year man. I've never repeated myself.

notice the young age of the two hosts here. This debate is the same debate as contemporary music versus hymnal music. Expository sermon you dont need to write your own sermons. makes a lazy pastor

Expository is very boring. Congregation looks tired and bored. I preach topical....

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Cant take a guy serious if he says he hates rootbeer.

Great video. I planted a church 20 years ago, as a bivocational pastor, any thoughts on doing a video to help bivocational plant pastors with limited time?

Yes show me how.

Add another service instead of adding on

This has been a great discussion! Sharing with the pastors group I lead.

How do I identify a Processor?

I am excited about this subject

Dude and I will not call anything else until the Lord reveals to me that your other than that your baby minister want to be because you’re bad mouthing a youth minister and you’re doing the same thing as him so go look at the mirror and point yourself because on this program only dead but a minute and that was all your young ministers are coming up at disrespect the older minister that been through way more than what you’ve been through. Yes, you’ve been through a small amount to get your taste buds wet just a little bit. here’s what comes to me. Why don’t you call that Little bit, but nothing at the old ministers have been through and you’re just like this generation who want to throw the old ministers out the door and your congregations bag for it and then you wonder why a few years later you’re closing the doors up because the first sign of the doors don’t tell me you didn’t shut the doors During COVID-19. No, there’s what you did. You go apologize to the minister down the road that you badmouth on the show and every other minister that you’re referring to. You’re the type that gets rid of the hymns books you might have a Bible sitting in a bookcase all your stuff is on your tablet and without the Internet you couldn’t function with dying so apologize to the old soon very soon or something very big coming to United States. That’s gonna make Covid 19 look like a walk in the park have a great day.🕶️

I would love to read that book looking forward to have it , thanx

As someone serving at a very small church, this such was a helpful discussion!

Isaiah 30:1 KJV Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin: I don't know whether they ask god what they should preach or not but our pastor when he needs to preach in church he will ask God then god will him the verses he should preach and through the verses god speaks what is in their heart to explain it its like the word of wisdom and word of knowledge

This is all nice but extremely centered around planting in United States with a core team of already believers. This is not going to be helpful to those of us seeking to start churches organically from new converts and with out a core team of people but boot strapping it from zero

I would love to have the book

Like the book

I'd like this book

I'm thankful for your willingness to touch on this subject. However, it feels more like "7 Tips to Starting a Business" - The last thing the world needs is another rich, shell church. This really feels like the focus is quantity over quality, which is opposite from what most other advice that I've found on the topic. I know that you would likely deny that as being the aim of the video, but of all the advice out there, why choose only the advice that focuses on finance and attendance numbers? The only 3 tips I found sound were planning out ministry focus topics, continuing to seek help and mentoring for the plant even if it is outside the church, and consider working with or even merging with like-minded ministries - though all 3 of these are best practices for church ministry in general and not specific to church planting.

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