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@@ricksteel6401 thank you and yes! Of course the measurements would not be the same but overall the idea and the theory behind it applies to both.

Yes the rebound setting will have some affect on the ride no doubt, but to be honest if we were going to try and improve ride quality on the trail I wouldn’t go there first. The first two things I would look at it the low speed compression setting, or if it has a dual rate spring setup we would look at where the slider is in comparison to the crossover nuts when the car is at ride height which controls how much of your rod is being controlled through the tender spring. Don’t be afraid to adjust on the compression nuts. They have 4 turns of adjustment all stiffer rotating clockwise. Put a wrench on the high speed and count the number of turns until the screw bottoms out. Back the screw out back to where it was and soften it by 1 turn. If you would like to discuss this more in depth we’d be glad to help. Go to the Race Relentless website and send a customer email and leave a number and we can call you back to discuss further.

@@briankent1922 very!!

@@briankent1922 this track is great for beginners! Joe and his staff are super easy to get along with and I think the “down home” feel you get there really takes the pressure off beginner racers. You will have fun there!!

@@writeselwelding thanks

@JoshStenberg ..no we never had a minimum ride height rule at any of the places we were racing…I think that’s what you’re asking? We have a 10” minimum ride height rule in the pro buggy but we never had a ride height rule to follow in the sxs

@writeselwelding yeah I seenyou all in Lena last year since champ off road has that rule. I'm running in sxs class and they have it top. Hence why I asked. Also might see you at a couple races too. I will stop by and such

@@JoshStenberg yes! Stop by anytime!!

@aronsrb4815 those are 26.5” mediums… and a 27.5” medium on the right rear to put some stager in it

Hey @jamesbrady1959 thanks for the question. When you say tighten up the spring are you referring to moving the compression nut at the top of the spring to compress the spring more?

After taking some laps…Racing on that track has to be an absolute blast and we ever have the opportunity to go back we definitely will! Where can we find class info for the races?

They have a sxs class the dates are on there fb page

March 9th is round 1

Gp race and night endurance race I believe they run once a month

I have the 2024 rules in a pdf

Oh yea!!!

That was an understatement. You would have thought we won

@Hondarider35 no we’ve never been to any MAO events that’s a long tow for us. We race the SXS in the Ohio Pennsylvania area. We’ve never ran any real big event with the SXS but we did run the buggies at 6 races with Champ Off-road last year

No not anymore unfortunately. We started racing there in 2011 and I remember some pilots running there it was probably you guys!! That’s cool. I remember a group running with MAORA also and I believe there was even some old Briggs Built Stadium Lites that ran with them.

We always run short course races in 4x4…it was tempting at first to run in 4x2 just to help the rear end rotate on corner entry but once we got our setup dialed you can’t match the drive off the corner like in 4x4

@brendanhbeck7127 not a problem at all man that’s racing! Had fun racing with you all…A quick mention is no big deal we’ve been watching what you’re trying to put together and appreciate it! Keep up the good work.

Thank you! Goods Raceway is in Deerfield Ohio. Yea when we finished the wing it was in UTV Action and was supposed to be in the next months issue with a full story and we sent pics and an in depth description of the car and it was never in the next months issue so we don’t know what happened! Street legal would be awesome! What tires did put on for the street?

@@writeselwelding buddy I'm still on stock carnivores and they suck and it likes to walk on me in turns. This is my first utv still trying to teach myself and research what to get. I got 55hrs and 1169 miles do u have any suggestions has for a good street tire that will fit and work on my stock 14 inch wheels I do have the Xtr so I think my wheels are a little different than 1000r yxz I got beadocks. I want 30x10x14 I guess seems to be what a lot of ppl are running

Glad to see the video! I'm tip toeing into sxs racing, had my first one a few weekends ago at durhamtown in GA. You should check it out. There's just nowhere In my area hosting races.

@townsendstewert661 Do you take it Offroad also or is it strictly a street machine?

@johndiel651 Durhamtown! Nice! I bet that was a blast. My partner Kevin had raced down there but i personally have never been there. Always wanted to though it looks like an awesome place!

Single stage springs but dual rate

We were lucky we brought the mud tires with us cause the weather showed absolutely no rain for the weekend lol…it was fun but the racing is never that great in those conditions. Hopefully next time it’s a little better conditions and we can have a Che-NOWTH showdown!

@markmanning6773 Hey Mark! After having both styles of tire we still kind of lean towards the Ceros and thats just because of how versatile they are. The Hoosiers are great don’t get me wrong but they need the track to be in a certain condition for them to really shine. To many races we have seen really fast guys go with Hoosiers and the track crew water the track right before our race and by the time the Hoosiers really started working we had already checked out! This also has to do with the area we mostly run in eastern Ohio, Pennsylvania, Indiana, and we always have the Hoosiers or snow tires ready to bolt on we tend to run the ceros more often! Hope this answers your question, thanks for watching!

Have you seen the Hoosiers bite’s tires?

🤙 Thanks for watching!!

@@writeselwelding No thanks for putting out good useful content ! You guys are some good racers ! I love watching some yxz content when my buts parked in the sofa lol ,got a YXZ a few months back so I'm having fun with mine -2015- riding and tuning stuff like suspension ,tires, eco tune, exhaust . Love the Yxz , its a blast !

Thanks man we appreciate that!! They are a blast for sure. If you ever have any questions we’d be glad to help don’t hesitate to ask!

That’s awesome!! we’re glad we could help! The tire video is an excellent idea we will definitely keep that in mind! Thanks for watching!

Hey, Thank for watching thanks for the comment…a better setup for improved ride quality really depends on what type of riding or racing you primarily do with your machine? What do you use your machine for most of the time?

@@writeselwelding we do a lot of sand dunes and desert riding

Wow great! Were out in Arizona so would need new springs? Oh also do you guys run the sway bars front and rear?

Yes we run Eibach bars front and rear on one car and on the other we run the stock bar up front and a custom built setup on the rear. Definitely a dual rate spring setup is the ticket for desert riding…the dual rates will allow way more fine tuning. If your in the desert at higher speeds across the chop you can work the tender springs and play with the high speed compression settings and then rely on the main spring for the bigger jumps…that will be done with your crossover setting

Thanks Judy!

I’m not sure I’m fully understanding the question, what exactly are you asking. I don’t wanna answer and sound stupid lol

@@writeselwelding I am trying to find Out if it is possible to make the yxz much lower. Kind Like a Buggy. The Lone Star Kit makes the ride wider, but is it able to lower the Chassis .

Ok gotcha now! So ride height on a coil over setup is typically determined by the spring compression setting. However shock length and location can also affect this if they are changed so in the case of the lone star kit if the same overall shock length is used and the shock mounting location on the upper arm is moved out towards the wheel then yes the lone star kit could potentially lower the height. I’m not familiar with that kit enough to say whether those mounts are in the factory location or not! I hope this helped in some way!

@@writeselwelding thank you! Yes now I See whats the main question Here : "mounts factory Location" It Seems it's Not that easy and expensive to make the Yamaha low.

Well not necessarily. You can simply adjust your spring preload setting as it sits and will lower the ride height but you are bound by the total length of the spring stack at full droop………..unless you introduce limit straps! What suspension setup are you currently on? And what machine? You may have a few cheap options

Thanks man!

Right on! Thank you!!! Always great to hear from you!

An interesting fact you might not have noticed because of the low quality in the old clips but the yellow buggy #43 that’s racing my dad in the first clip of the video and a few other times throughout is actually Kevin’s Dad…John

@@writeselwelding that is cool. I’ve got 2 buddies from HS that grew up together, born 1 month apart, and now have boys nearly the same age and best friends. That’s building a tribe, community, and culture 👍👊🇺🇸🤘 Looking at them all standing around the trailer reminded me of being around the extended family, which were all farmers. Those were great times, with great people.

That’s awesome!! So another cool fact since you mentioned that scene…sitting on the trailer is Scott Kuryn who has 2 sons our age that race the buggies with us, and standing next to my dad is Tim Molinaro who now owns the green super buggy and 1600 buggy that I drive!…just amazing how everyone stayed together and got there kids involved and are still doing it together 30 years later just in different ways is awesome to me

Thanks man!

Little town in Eastern Ohio called Adena

Awesome I'm in North Carolina I'll have to check it out sometime is there anywhere else to ride around there or is it just this track?

Cool! Yea this is the only track in this area besides Rolling W Ranch in West Sunbury Pa. We’ve raced there in a few of our other videos….there’s a place to ride real close to this track called Renegade Ridge which isn’t a bad place

Almost 15 years in it buddy!! Where does the time go! Good to hear from my friend hope all is well!!

Thanks! KG got this girl ripping! This track is always fun to drive its elbows up for sure! Heard the YXZ was on rails at Marengo until it wasn't!!

No you are correct we didn’t mention ride heights in the video. Ride heights measured roughly 10 3/8” rear and 11 3/8” front using the most rear facing lower pivot bolts to the ground! Hope this helped!! Thanks for watching!!

You might be able to get this exact measurements it will depend on the spring setup you’re running but you do wanna be 1/2”-1” higher in the front

Much appreciated! Great video, great info. Tuning a 2020 XTR with RC2s and stock dual springs and looking to see what kind of performance I can get out of them before jumping to Weller.

@@Smoking_Nun No problem! and Thank You! If there is anything else we can help with just let us know!

Wow Thank You!!! We really appreciate that! Thanks for watching

Man! Wish you would have been there!…I once again forgot a thumbnail photo you usually cover me on that! Lol

@@writeselwelding lol looked like you could have used a camera man but he tried

Yea it was all over the place! Lol

Lol oh well

They are cool machines! We hope you get your hands on one someday too!!

Time for some new projects Rick! When are we gonna that RZR trail ready??

I would agree that the straightaway was the best place to pass as long as you were a good deal faster than the other car. I feel like this new section presents more opportunities to set someone up than the straightaway did. I can understand you not being a fan of it though. All I can say is I personally have hundreds of laps around Joes Speedway and I enjoyed driving this configuration way more than the others!

Brad that would definitely be very interesting! I would worry a little about it complicating the scoring as far as keeping track of who has taken the joker or not on top of the running order. It might be something that’s easier to manage with transponders? What’s your thoughts on that?

Yea it’s definitely different!

@@writeselwelding yes it is

You’ll have to take it up E-Man on the button!! Thanks brother! We appreciate it!!!

Thank you Jackie!

Hey Matt! Thank you! Comparing how we stacked up against the sxs at this race and what we seen you guys do at gravity park…oh man! Might have been bad for us lol! You guys were flying!

Thank you!!!

Thanks man!

Pretty cool stuff! If he does go to Renegade you definitely won’t miss it!! Looking forward to a few renegade trips this year

Hey Dennis!!! Thanks for watching buddy!

Thank you! Thanks for watching!

Thank you! We just couldn’t take it home with us! Thanks for watching!

Thanks Rick!! Scott was happy so we’re happy. So much history behind this build!! You’re going to see Scott Peltz a mile away on the trail this year!!

We got it all!!! The final episode of this build will be the best by far!!!

Our wheels are 14” system 3 (stock offset) with 1.5” spacers and the tires are 26” maxxis ceros. If you’re 100% stock you should absolutely get a good cage first! Then I would definitely go suspension upgrades next, shock valving/ sway bars helped our cars so much it was unbelievable! I would get comfortable and get the car to handle before I did anything else. A steering quickener is a huge upgrade also!

@@writeselwelding thank you!! cage first for sure! i watched your video on setting up stock suspension and man it help so much, thanks again.

@@speedtrap2240 Thats awesome!!! Glad we could help!