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Hey man thanks, your channel looks really cool too. Subscribed

I really need to get a few Oquirrh hikes in this summer, I think I've only been in a car ride once through them to get a view of the Bingham Canyon mine.

Not that I'm aware of. Do you think you've seen any?

@Ashitaka-gx2od i was just wondering. I bought some seeds. I plan on growing them with my children and transplanting when they are large enough for our yard.

As far as I'm aware, there is no reason it couldn't happen, and maybe some coast douglas firs tend to be bluish. But around the Utah at least, Ive basically never seen a Douglas fir without the classic solidly green needles

@Ashitaka-gx2od thank you for your information. Even if they are just Douglas fir, my children will remember us planting them together after I'm gone. Memories are what make you live on longer. Even if it's only in someone's heart.

I would love to take a look at it! but I want to first say that knowing exactly what the 100 most common plants (or perhaps abundant would be the more scientific term) are in a given area with complete certainty can be a lot more difficult than it seems, so the best goal I think is to come up with a list of prominent common plants that can be found in the Wasatch Front.

@Ashitaka-gx2od Wonderful. I agree about the challenge of drafting a list like this, but I'm mostly trying to build it off probability. Give me a bit longer to finish drafting it and I'll put it here

That sounds great, let me know when you have it ready

It's really extraordinary to how related plants have managed to distribute themselves around the world, and I often like to think that Australia and New Zealand have to be some of the most distant places from North America in terms of floral similarity but there are always some exceptions. I think we get also get a few species of Myositis in Utah, which is a genus that has many more species in New Zealand right? I'm definitely going to have to stop by New Zealand sometime in the future.

@Ashitaka-gx2od yea looks like there's about 40 species of them here! Apparently assumed to have been a single dispersal event followed by some extreme amounts of adaptive radiation

Yeah it's really tragic how many weeds are in Hawaii. Whole forests composed of non native species are the norm rather than the exception. There are goats in Hawaii, but I don't see them very often. In my experience they tend to stick more to the cliff faces and drier ridges, but they are still a problem in the islands, especially since steep cliffs out of the range of most other grazers are the last refuge for so many endangered plant species here.

I believe that if you are able to find plants interesting, you will almost never be bored.

It's really fascinating how much variation there is in rainfall in Hawaii, een over short distances. It's definitely a major factor in why the Hawaiian islands have so many range restricted ande endemic species.

Abies lasiocarpa is sometimes referred to as the "Rocky Mountain Fir" yes. Within Utah there are only two native species of true firs, the other being Abies concolor, commonly called the white fir. Though the also native douglas fir is similar looking, it is in a different half of the Pine family.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Indeed, I'm really interested to see what it looks like this winter and next spring.

Crazy. I can't imagine doing the hike today without the ropes. I have to admit, for all the trouble it causes, strawberry guava is pretty tasty.

Thanks I appreciate hearing that. I'm hoping I can get part 2 up within a week.

I don't know if they ever will learn. There are plans to try and use some for biomass for electricity (I believe the state used to get a lot its electricity from burning the leftover bagasse from sugar production, so once the mills closed it increased the price of electricity in the islands). I guess that might better than doing nothing with the land, but Hawaiis land is so limited, there may be some better uses for it.

By what means did god make it fall tho?

@Ashitaka-gx2od you are true idiot

But you don't even know how a tree falls over.

@@Ashitaka-gx2od WEIRDO

@Ashitaka-gx2od nothing last forever...... and it's called Jesus christ that's why

Thank you and I'm happy to say I did find many more on some of the other trails I hiked.

Hello! I'm so glad to hear this, Hawaii (and everywhere else for that matter) needs more people interested in planting native species, and who understand invasives are an issue. I've got some more videos coming up if you are interested as well, one of which is going up the Wilhelmina ridge trail (which I guess is now called Mau'umae ridge?) Interestingly there is another parasite of the Erythrina Gall Wasp the Invasive Species Council is planning on releasing, hopefully it can further whittle down the threat they pose to the Wiliwili.

Thank you. It's a great place and certainly I would say the crown jewel of National Parks and protected places in Southeast Queensland. Hoping I can go back to Australia for a little longer soon. I will have to keep an eye out for the crayfish!

​@@Ashitaka-gx2od There are limestone caves at Binna Burra a few kilometres before you get to the Mountain Lodge, and the end of the road. The caves are caused by rain and water over many years leaching out the limestone from the basalt. (Please forgive me if I don't have the science right. You probably know the true explanation) My father took me there before I started primary school. I thought they were like big shells. About 10 yrs ago I went back there looking for the caves. They have changed a lot over time, due to weathering. I noticed something interesting is that there are middens there that consist of crayfish shells, many feet deep that have built up over the centuries. That's where the local Aborigines sat in the cave and cooked their Lamington Spiny Crayfish, and threw the shells on the heap.​ It's strange that there was no sign to mark the Aboriginal middens. I wonder; did the Aborigines make expeditions there to harvest the crayfish, which are very plentiful after rain. 🦞

I will definitely have to check that out when I come back.

Thank you, and yes I am. It’s my favorite movie. I’m not sure I will keep this name forever though, initially it was just something I came up with as a placeholder until I came up with an actual channel name.

@@Ashitaka-gx2od Cool I love that movie too. I'm moving to Nevada for a job in an ecology role so I'll be using your channel as a crash course on the Great Basin Dessert Biome

That's awesome! I just wish I had more videos on Great Basin plants for you, lol.

Thanks again for watching. Shame about the Rudbeckia. It could have been a rabbit too, they evidently like to eat them as well. That makes sense about the Monkey flower too, since they do well in poorly drained soils.

Yeah I don't know if they can behave as annuals in seasonally dry places ? I'm in the Willamette Valley in Oregon and we have this annoying combination of rain all winter, desert conditions all summer so I guess I'll find out. So interesting how many of these plants in the Utah mountains overlap with what we have in shaded and/or riparian areas at sea level! Nootka rose for example, for us those get quite large and rambling.

When the plant produces its brown cotton (it will be easy to see), you can collect the seeds.

It can be and crypto seems to have less plants growing on it than disturbed soil. However, seeds are going to tend to fall to the lowest point (into the cracks), some native plants will be able to grow through it, and there are normally gaps in the crypto when you see it.

I unfortunately don't know. Moss identification is not easy and few people really know how to do it (me included)

@@Ashitaka-gx2od it could become technological breakthrough. Especially for people who live in arid area. Thank you for showing me that this kind of moss do exist.

You're very welcome, i'm glad you enjoyed the video.

Glad to here that. Hope some of my future videos can be of use as well.

Thank you, I definitely have some more planned.

Utah actually has quite a diversity of habitats! Certainly as much as any of the 4 corners states do. Thanks again for the kind words and always watching.

Thats great to hear the Stansbury cliffrose is doing well! It's a real stunner. There are a lot of contenders for powerhouse bird feeders, and it kind of depends if you are talking feeding them nectar, fruit, or nuts. For nectar loving birds, many of the penstemons, columbines, and members of the genus Gilia and Ipomopsis seem to be favorites. For fruit loving birds, there are quite a lot of plants to really say which ones stand out the most, but currants and choke cherries trees always seem plump with fruit every year that is just the right size for birds. For birds that like nuts the most, definitely various conifers trees, especially Junipers, Pinyon pines, and limber pines. The plant you are talking about sounds a lot like Squaw Apple to me, which is related to wild crab apples you might find in the eastern states, though I can't know for certain without seeing it myself.

@@Ashitaka-gx2od Dude, you are the "BOMB"! That's a wealth of information. I looked up the Squaw Apple, and that is exactly what it was. I got a few cuttings of that as well, but I am not so sure they'll make it. Awesome work you're doing with your native videos. One thing I ordered online that is doing really well, here in Arkansas, is a Washington Hawthorn. Maybe it'll start producing berries in the next year or so. Thanks again!

In my experience that is what I have observed of Douglas Firs, them having smaller more frequent furrows than white fir, but I guess I would need to revisit the two trees to know for sure.

Thank you. I wanted to be as thorough as possible, and cones alone just aren't good enough a lot of the time.

@@Ashitaka-gx2od I agree. Speaking of cones, I picked up a couple Ponderosa Pine Cones at the Grand Canyon. Do you suppose I could plant and grow some trees from seedlings here in Arkansas? I'm in growing zone 7a.

Yeah they can definitely survive temperatures lower than that. I don't see any reason they wouldn't grow in Arkansas, but you will have to "stratify" the seeds for them to grow. It's not super complicated, but you will take some time, and they will have to be planted in the spring to give them the best chance of growth. This person explains how they stratified their Ponderosa Seeds and it worked well for them. www.montananaturalist.org/blog-post/propagating-ponderosa-pines/ I'm not sure how much, experience you have growing plants from seed, so just know this process can be critical to these plants success and the process is essentially recreating the conditions these seeds have to undergo in nature before they feel its time to germinate. Until around Autumn just hold onto the cones in a dry area. Let me know if you have any other questions.

@@Ashitaka-gx2od Sir, you're very informative, and it's much appreciated. Thanks for all the information. I will follow up and decide whether to go that route or just purchase one from the Arbor Day Foundation.

Nice! It's a great place and I hope I can check it out again soon.

They looked like they were having the time of their life

It can definitely grow pretty high up I've seen them up to at least 8,500 feet, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them growing higher.

Thanks for your comment and very true, as long as it is damp during the growing season, which is early and fast for this guy it should be good (and it doesn't even need to be that wet either)

Thank you and I think you are correct. I will admit I have avoided a deep dive of Astragalus because I'm very intimidated by the genus, but my job last year necessitated me learning them the best I could in Southern Utah, and many are surprisingly easy to recognize once you get the hang of it.

Thank you, I'm doing a lot better now.

2 years later, I'm still using it for most of my videos, though admittedly the iphone camera quality may exceed it slightly under normal conditions, and it is much easier to hold steady especially when moving, and has better stabilizing software. That being said, if it's dark or I need to zoom (which I need to do constantly), it blows the iphone away, and I much prefer being able to control the zoom exactly as I want to with my D750. It's honestly still a great camera after all these years especially if you are just doing photography!

Sounds lovely. Enjoy the tea!

Yeah, it's a good common native to Utah and much of the rest of North America for that matter. They do naturally grow into trees if they have the space, just small ones.

Yes this is in the desert. I'm in a Pinyon-Juniper forest specifically which is not quite dry as other parts of the desert but its still getting only around 10-15 inches of rain a year. I think it might take specific conditions to propagate, but once it's growing it is extremely hardy.

Thanks for the honest feedback, sorry you didn't like or learn much from the video.

@@Ashitaka-gx2od yeah I’m really trying to get familiar with trees around my area and plants just super stressful so I study 40 minutes every night before I go to bed make couple notes go outside for observe for little bit a day . But just figured while I was studying to watch this for me it was too complex and I easily forget have trouble remembering the information overlong term that’s all didn’t mean to be rude and thanks

Thank you very much for making this decision.

thanks, and I’m glad you enjoyed my content. You pretty much get the point of the channel, although I suppose nothing in the fields of earth and life science is off the table for my channel.

Thank you for your comment, I had no idea that Shepherdia rotundifolia made great forage. And you are pretty much right on with the location too!

I've certainly noticed that, in mature PJ forests, the understory though often diverse, is pretty sparse and dominated by diminutive species.

Thank you. It always feels great to see that someone noticing your content!

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Thanks for the question. This is a tough one to answer without seeing the area, let alone doing a tree coring to get actual ages. That being said, much of the trees in these Pinyon-Juniper forests we get out here we can be certain are younger than 160 years because a lot of Pinyon-Juniper forests only came to be after after the settlement of the west began, which brought grazing and fire suppression that favored pinyon-juniper and disfavored sagebrush and grasslands (this expansion isn't necessarily bad either though and it is hotly debated just how much they have expanded). At the same time they are slow growing trees, so to truly look like a forest, it probably took over a 100 years to develop. So between 160-100 years is the best answer I can give unfortunately.