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Are you in Colorado? I saw another video about aspen. I’m a former first responder trying to decide which school I want to use.

How flexible are they on a training schedule? Looking to maintain my 6 figure day job which is remote and flexible + fly in the afternoon/evenings. I have my PPL already not sure if that matters specifically with a training schedule.

Which atp did u go to?

atp is trash pilot puppy mill , oh and if you wanna work as cfi there have fun with 18h

ATP is absolute garbage!! Total waste of $$$$$ and time... ATP and flight school in general is the worst decision I have ever made!! They conveniently forgot to mention that they have like a 90% drop out rate. All this after they get THOUSANDS of dollars out of you! FUCK ATP AND FUUUUUCK DUMBASS FLIGHT SCHOOL!!

Atp is a 141 school no?

I’m currently a Police Officer thinking about leaving Law Enforcement due to being burnt out with poor leadership, etc. I’ve been heavily looking into Aviation and since your former military and former Cop I was wondering if you’d have any advice for me. Maybe be able to answer some questions.

Congratulations! This very inspiring!😊

Luckily, I found a basic older 172 at a smaller airport that is only $120 and $50 for dual. Can roll that savings into my instrument.

I’m on my way to ATP as of right now man, and im hoping to get in, I whiling to drop everything (full time job, free time) to do this full time program being a pilot is something I’ve been wanting to do since a kid and my mind has not changed one bit of it, yes I’ve my up and downs and thoughts of doing something else bc the main causes of that is the pricing, but im here for all, like they say you only live once and if you like something you chase it not matter what’s around it and the bumps, your video really pushed to do it and here I am on the way to the ATP office with my parents. It would be nice if you reply to me and have a private conversation with me after I get out.

How long does it take to get a job as a airline pilot after graduation?

Which atp location u went to ?

Great video. Been debating jumping into ATP or another route but this was great

Subscribed. Learning a lot of valuable information here. Thank you! Touring ATP, Epic, and PEA this week.

great video

What do you have to say about all the negatives about ATP. Do you agree or not?

How can I get all my exams done before starting ATP flight school? Is that through ATP? And how did you study? Did ATP provide you with the books and study guides? Thank you for the video, I am considering ATP, I think it might be the best option for me.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I feel encouraged as a 41 year old to see that you went through this certification and career pivot at a similar age.

Out of curiosity Josh, what is the max age that ATP will take students and what would you say would be the best amount of saved income in order to simply live off of while going to school, especially for a single 35 year old veteran with no kids? Yes I'm talking about me hahaha. I really enjoyed flying, but just like driving a car I'm never comfortable with someone else behind the wheel or in this case stick.

As an ATP student, don’t go to ATP. This man had a very lucky experience with the program at his location. I can tell you from the place that mine was based at, it was very different. Some instructors are very good and passionate about teaching, others are not and will refuse to do grounds with you even if you need help. And as far as plane availability? When my friend went through, there weren’t enough planes so he wasn’t able to fly for months, and when I went through I had a flight where we squawked at least four planes in a row trying to get up in the sky. Not to mention the management seems like it’s actively trying to kick people out right now both instructors and students, probably related to them getting sued right now. So they’re moving up timelines and forcing the students and instructors to bear the brunt of ATP’s mistakes. Maybe you might get lucky and get a location with friendly people willing to work with you. I’m getting separated from the program due to my deployment, a short one at that. I was told beforehand they would try to work with me and freeze my program till I came back but with this recent shift at the company, they’re looking for any excuse to boot people to keep their timelines up. Even with DPE availability they’re struggling. Yeah it might be better than some places where people are waiting months, but other flight schools have their own DPEs on hand ready to go as well. Some people at my program waited a month after finishing everything trying to get a checkride, and as a result got so rusty (mixed with being sent to a totally different location in a way different and busier airspace where ATC was too busy to accommodate) and only a 1.0 flight to get them spun back up (about as much time to take off, take a look, and land), so they failed on a maneuver.

Here’s my ATP story. I went to ATP. I got my ratings. I left ATP. I CFI’d. Now airline CA. The end

*promo sm* 😄

I'm in Houston as well and considering ATP but I'm curious did you go to the Conroe or Ellington campus? I'm about equal distance from either but I'm leaning towards Conroe b/c I see they have multiengine and on-site maintenance department.

Anyone here know if ATP will take in pilots with commercial rating acquired elsewhere, and train them to be CFI then hire them under their program?

The fact ATP doesn’t allow students to takeoff or land at airports that are ifr immediately discredits it as a good training facility for 121 pilots. Sorry but you should not be doing approaches to minimums for the very first time in a jet.

Finished up at ATP about two months ago and don't really have any complaints. The program is a bit longer than advertised, but a lot of this is due to weather, DPE checkride wait, and/or personal schedule. No program is perfect and there were hiccups, but this is the same of any endeavor. Be flexible, be resourceful and be a good student. The program is structured, but it is the responsibity of the student to manage scheule, studying, expectations, etc. ATP provides the resources to get you to your end state. No one loves you more than you; so commit to the program and view ATP as a facilitator to your goal - becoming a airline/commercial pilot.

Noted. Ill make sure to apply this in my daily life

Thank you I definitely have enough money to but a jet

What’s the point for making this video?

Hey Josh, as a young guy in his early 20's do you think going all out on the full time course including housing is worth it? Looking at around $130,000 loan. It's a bit scary but if I commit, I commit. Is the payoff there?

Hello Josh I’m in CT and looking to start ATP on the summer, in the Hartford location. do you think you can share what material you used to study for the written exams? Thanks Paulo

Hey bud! Can you help me out and point me in the right direction. What's a good online ground school and what all did you use to study for all the written exams? If you can help me out with this, I would highly appreciate it.

Right, it’s nice how the con section doesn’t mention any of the really shtty stuff they do to students. Those watching this, avoid ATP.

I graduated ATP a month ago with all 7 certificates. Took 14 months, and that was the same for most of my classmates. Just a heads up for viewers. It's taking a lot longer than advertised right now.

The only thing I am worried about is 1. The Written Exams and 2. The Check rides. How prepared did you feel for these after the study materiel and flight training they gave you? Also if you are comfortable sharing, did you fail any of your check rides?

Wow, it's really cool to find a local aviation channel! I started my PPL at Ellington, and finished it up at H&R at T41 in LaPorte. I've been out of flying for a while, but I'm starting to get back into it. I'm in the Civil Air Patrol at Ellington and will start getting qualified on our planes there once I get my medical renewed in a couple of weeks. I've been considering a "career 2.0" change and pursuing my old aviation dreams and trying to move through my ratings quickly. My current problem is just trying to find someplace that will loan me the money to do them.

ATP charges almost 300 an hour for old six pack single engine planes. Cheaper planes other places.

QUESTION! So you can actually take which written test before start flying?

DO NOT FALL INTO THE TRAP. READ THIS FIRST. A lot of facts are not mentioned and a lot of information are not correct unfortunately. The information that ATP has brand new aircrafts is not true, the information that ATP has a fast program is absolutely not true, it only happens at one location only where weather is not an issue. In my case, we were 35 students training on 3 aircrafts, one of them was always squawked (had maintenance issues), and when weather was nice we either had two aircrafts to fly 10 students at the most that day or one aircraft was reserved for a checkride and we end up with one aircraft only. The information that you will be expelled from the program if you fail a checkride is not correct, ATP will kick you out of the program if you fail any stage check twice, and that could happen within the first 20 or 45 hours of training. The program is build around them making money out of you and they make more money out of student who are expelled from the program than student who go all the way and finish the program. Most of the instructors that were at the training center where I went got kicked out after I left and they were really good instructors. They kicked me out of the program after 45 hours, I went to a different school that has over 12 aircrafts and within 9 months I'm going though my CFI academy now and I fly in the same state I was training with ATP. Guys do your homework and find about the information I'm telling you. I don't know why this guy isn't telling the whole truth.

That is scary!

I took the long route. Started training late December 2015. Mom and pop part 61 school whilst going to college and working almost full time from zero hours to CFII. I was working 3 jobs after graduating college to afford the rest of my training and passed my CFI ride in December of 2022. Best day of my life in the last 10 years was putting in 3 2 week notices at the same time to my other jobs. I JUST got to a part 135 SIC position a few months ago. All roads lead to Rome though. ATP is a 8-9 hour day, 5 days a week process and more expensive. I paid roughly 75k from zero to CFI. You'll pay almost double for that at ATP these days however, you'll get it done SUPER quick. Pros and cons to both.

Awesome video, im currently a full time Police Officer myself. First and foremost, congrats on retirement. Getting there is no easy task. I'm attending a 2 year 141 program here in NJ, almost done with my PPL. It has been a real grind working the night shift and being a full-time student, but hopefully it'll pay off in the near future. Awesome content, keep up the good work!

Hey all I’m 25 yo old I grew up in a family of aviation. Ever since I was able to walk I wanted to be a pilot. When I was about 16 I stared take lessons and got to about 25 hours total time, before I stared hanging around the wrong crowd which led me into a position to where I was no longer able to fly, stared working some jobs met the mother of my child and it went from there, 1 or 2 years ago I was working at a local airport which re sparked my aviation bug and when you mentioned seniority it resonated very much so. However I have financial commitments that is preventing from pursuing my dreams. I’m thinking about joining the military serving for either 1 or 2 enlistments either work on avonics or a&p and than I may be able to hop on the bandwagon. Hopefully, thing work out in my favor but knowing how things go with life it may not be the case. I just thought I’d vent how I feel, sorry for ranting on. Thanks guys.

If I am able to afford a share of a plane would you recommend that? Edit: should’ve watched the whole video 😂

Hi Josh! Thanks for your input! Did you train at EFD in Houston? I am starting March 18 with ATP. Any advice is much appreciated!

I’ve been thinking of leaving a slower part 141 school and really want to fly every day with a rigid schedule! (Prior military in me needs that consistency) Your video helped me solidify my decision to switch. Thanks!

Hey Josh, please make a video about your skydive pilot experience. I'm considering that as an option for building time when I'm in that phase.

EY I skydive too and just finished my comm multi with ATP where do you jump bro?!!

It’s a little rough to use personally. The way you type it into ForeFlight takes a while to get used to.

Is this only for people that have no ratings? Do you know of anyone that joined ATP after recieveing their IFR cert?