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Meet Me Next Christmas 2024
"Meet Me Next Christmas" is a heartwarming holiday love story! Set against a backdrop of the twinkling lights and holiday cheer in the city, two star-crossed lovers find themselves on an unforgettable quest to find the main character’s true love. 🎄✨ Join the discussion about African American casted traditional holiday romance films.
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Rob Peace 2024
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Here's the edited version for clarity: "Rob Peace is a biographical film based on the book “The Short and Tragic Life of Robert Peace”, written by Jeff Hobbs. Today, we’ll discuss themes of family loyalty, balancing the pursuit of opportunities, and making good choices amidst external pressures and circumstances. What are your thoughts on this film? Let’s talk about it. #chiwetelejiofor #maryjb...
She Taught Love 2024
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She Taught Love is romantic drama film written by Darnell Britt-Gibson. It follows the beginning and progression of the unlikely relationship between Frank Cooper and Mali Waters. Join us as we discuss the complications and challenges of this unlikely pair. Let’s talk! #blackromance #blacklove #BlackCinema #blackfilms #BlackIndieFilms #netflix
A Day Late and A Dollar Short 2014
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A Day Late and a Dollar Short is a poignant family drama centered around the Matriarch, Viola Price, who is battling chronic illness. Viola attempts to reunite her fractured family, mending broken relationships and tackling personal demons before it's too late. Let’s talk about family dynamics, mental health, and reconnection! Join the conversation.
The Mill (2023)
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Joe (Lil Rel) wakes up in a bizarre prison run by his employer. For fourteen grueling hours a day, he must push a mill and hit an always increasing number of rotations. Each rotation puts him one step closer to freedom and his family…or not. Let’s talk about it!
Mr. Crocket
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Mr. Crocket is a local children’s television show that is finding its way into the homes of upset and neglected children. The old videos of the show seem to have a calming effect on the youngsters, but a big problem for the parents. Join us as we talk about this #HuluOriginal horror film. Was Mr. Crocket the only villain in the story? Who was the face in the moon? What does LeVar Burton have to...
The Girl With All The Gifts (2016)
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"The Girl With All The Gifts" takes place in a post-apocalyptic world where society has collapsed due to a devastating fungal infection. This film explores the themes of survival, ethics, and lines between humanity and monstrosity. Let’s talk about it!
The Deliverance 2024
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Today’s film was inspired by real paranormal events that happened to a family in Gary, Indiana in 2011. Join us as we discuss the movie interpretation as well as the documentary about the Ammons family’s experience in what’s become known as “The Demon House.”
Parallel 2024
Просмотров 1062 месяца назад
This film follows the story of a grieving mother spending time with her husband and brother-in-law at the family’s lake house. Following a heated conversation, she decides to go for a walk to clear her head and finds herself in a a parallel universe, and it completely changes her life! Join the conversation to learn more about this great Hodge Brothers film!
Entergalactic
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With stunning graphics and great soundtrack, Entergalactic follows the life Jabari, and up and coming artist as he navigates, career, relationship and personal growth. Join the conversation as we talk about the art and creativity in this movie!
The Book of Clarence 2024
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The Book of Clarence takes place in Jerusalem in 33 AD. Clarence is a street hustler who has big dreams of being more. A series of bad decisions leads him to attempt to fix his problems (hopefully preserving his life) by pretending to be a Messiah. This film takes a humorous approach to the Biblical genre. Join us as we discuss this entertaining epic tale. #blackcinema #blackdrama #strongblackl...
Waves 2018
Просмотров 358 месяцев назад
Waves is about a successful suburban African-American family. They seem to have everything on the outside - house, nice cars, businesses, smart kids who attend one of the best schools in the area…life looks good. But there behind closed doors, there is tension, unspoken grief, depression and pressure to be perfect. Join us as we discuss this film about a family in crisis, and how they move thro...
Shirley 2024
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Today we discuss the Netflix movie, Shirley. The film highlights Shirley Chisholm’s political career as the first African American woman to be elected to the US Congress, and her courageous and ambitious decision to be the first woman to run for president of the United States in in 1972. Join us as we discuss trailblazer, Shirley Chisholm and the road she paved for women and African-Americans i...
Posse (1993)
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Today, the 90s classic Posse. This American Western film follows Jesse Lee, who runs away from his military sentence to save the town his father built. Join as as we discuss the highs and lows of this Black Cowboy adventure! #blackcinema #blackdrama #BlackAmericanWestern #BlackFilms #BlackFilmmakers #MarioVanPeebles #MelvinVanPeebles
The Secret Lives of Bees (2008)
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Today, we're discussing The Secret Lives of Bees bsed on the book written by Sue Monk Kidd. Set in South Carolina in 1964. While this film is set during the civil rights era, the focus is on how these women come together and support each other in the face of racism, abuse and trauma.
Welcome Back to Movies That Move We 2024
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Welcome Back to Movies That Move We 2024
who made the new theme song cool shirt, Zenobia, back to the present:) I can see the party is at your house Zenobia what other genre.. positive genre, you will like to see more black folk? on her couch, o h nike:) .. and that is typical:) hahah Nike , why have you never written one of these stories? I realized later it isn't your favorite genre. is a karen getting shut down a must have scenario in a feel good black cast drama? oh Nike, thank you for that trivia, and your wrong:) george c scott is not the best, it is reginald owen:) Have you seen the 1997 christmas carol animated film? ... I have no black christmas film... jamie foxx standup is something new, nice idea zenobia
question, this is very adult , but warranted, if a female is giving fellatio in the dark, unless she swallows it all, wouldn't that mean she should have some residue on the face or lips? am I wrong
Just saw this advertised on Tiktok.
05:38 yeah the Hannibal lector mask for the zombie kids:) 10:11 The Zombie Capo ask, Do you promise to bite without hesitation after this moment? 23:50 truly, the same energy or characterizations as "I am legend" of Richard Matheson Did Zenobia feel squeamish for this film?
Is Parallel the best Black sci fi of 2024? will you do a best of, from movies that move we at years end? and good fun dean:)
@@richardmurrayaalbcassist7279 a “Best of” edition isn’t a bad idea!!
glad to see you guys back:) 2:36 keith david is getting work late in the career 4:11 interesting, they made the characters indicative of the voice actor 8:05 good point an african american romantic animation 10:03 oh nike, you and your sexual themes ahhhh, great show:)
Is this animation?
@@kimbrown2775 yes it is!
You guys! I love that you made the decision as mother and daughter to create this and put it out there. And I loved hearing your interpretations and each of your perspectives on this book and mini-series, which are some of my favorites. It makes me wanna watch this series again and makes me miss my mom too :) (By the way, I always just call the old bitty character "prune pit" cuz that is what Etta Mae calls her at the tenant's meeting.)
Hey @@davidw3534 ! Thanks for checking us out! I’m glad you’re enjoyed this review.
occasional adult:) haha enjoyed the early season run:) have fun in the late spring and summer:) you ended this first segment with the lord:)
love the school house rock shirt:) what is that on zenobia's shirt? 13:51 your black mama mindset is too strong:) it is 2024:) yes, zenobia , smile:) .. as black individuals acquire fortunates or more financially opulent lifestyle, will the black parental mold, born from the quarters of the enslaved, become similar to the white parental mold born from the house of the enslavers? no soul food ending:) you two really liked this film? was this the best film you guys saw from the past ten reviews? the power of non advertising:) that is how gems get through
what chips or snacks were you eating? what is the most financially successful black female produced film in the usa? You guys made me wonder about black male movie reviewers opinion toward films produced or directed by black women . I wonder do black female produced/directed films get mostly positive reviews from black male film reviewers? To the needle moving, Biden could had chose stacey abrams who is more functional like shirley chisholm but chose kamala harris who is less industrious while also like obama or adam clayton powell jr is phenotypically not the image of "pure blackness" like chisholms' color suggest. Was this film like the aretha franklin supported biopic, in that it didn't get steamy or telenovela-ish? Are you calling on a PBS vietnam war level documentary for shirley chisholm? i think that would be very revealing.
11:32 Danny glover is still mr mister:) 12:04 palatable is the right word zenobia 23:19 you are a producer/money, director, thespian, someone says, Color Purple as a superhero film, what do you say? 25:40 couldn't find the young lady, wish her the best though
16:35 this film wasn't the kind of film that can get a wide release, black panther is the kind.
would you have used the two characters that were made up? as a writer Nike
welcome 2024
0:10 Jill scott's character in this film is well known, I have only seen two tyler perry films. One is with a black woman who is with a wife beater, and the other is with a black woman who is using a black man's marriage as a cover for her mistresshood to a white man . But it seems he likes to have an abused black woman by a black man. reminds me of "for colored girls" 3:30 I don't think Zenobia shared why the relationship between jill scott's character and said character's husband bother's her so much. It is clearly negative but she wanted to say more i think 4:15 Nike, you found the relationship with the michael j white character side wife funny? 10:00 Zenobia, I don't exist in the circles where tyler perry films ar ebeing talked about alot, thanks for mentioning. 12:05 why have the tyler perry films become more debated now in the espace circles, in either of your opinions? 13:11 why did you show his image, the character that jill scott's character romances with? is he a hero or something?:) 14:49 do both movies explain why the guy who married jill scott 's character marry her in the first place? I don't comprehend based on what you guys said, why he married her, did she have the body of tyra banks or sade or kerry washington when they married? 21:17 red tomato:) rotten tomato:) Nike your hilarious, Zenobia, was the second film spinned off unrealistic? 23:36 Is the formulaic way of Perry why his alex cross failed so much? 28:10 all artist display their rearing or the reaction to their rearing in their work. it is inevitable. 30:32 Tyler Perry like SPike LEe like Robert Townsend, like the Wayans, like others before , all comprehend the industry and all have influenced it, But each have their own perspective based on their tribe in the village so to speak. the problem isn't that the black experience in the usa is complex, all black people or white people know this. but the black experience in media rarely reflects how complex it is. So black people who don't share another's experience call their ersion a falsehood or leser view, when it is merely a view from a different part of the black community. 33:35 yes in europe theater was a place for only male thespians, in japanese kubuki as well, 35:57 tyler perry comprehended that many of the older black thespians have followings in the black community or the white community of a certain age and supporting them provides a certain audience, especially of financially affluent blacks 37:37 great job covering all three films. Enjoy the Winter season!
Is "the preacher's wife" the best black remake of a white film?
I couldn’t say. I think this one was pretty well done and made relevant for modern day.
The art scene was classic:) Shows a truth we all know, I quote paraphrase toulouse lautrec: the mona lisa is an unwanted commission, now deemed the national art work of france. where do you rank nicole kidman's performance in this film, compared to their others? Excellent point Zenobia, contrast is visually best served most places with phenotypical variance. Arabs-geographic/muslims-religion can be white. Nike, definitely share your compare plus contrast with the french version.
good review
If someone said they will make a story of yours a movie with no financial strings on one condition, it has to be a story already operated on you, whether finished or not,. So you can't adjust a story or write a new one. which of your stories will you suggest? I wish Don was here for this question. I wonder.
2:34 it wasn't as intimate 4:08 good point, you never heard much about donna summer and she did live in europe at times 8:20 yeah donna summer's voice plus thearics was huge, Zenobia , you didn't care for SCott's mic love thing? 11:42 pac man!:) 13:42 good point, Zenobia, the lgbtq+ community did support donna summer or tina turner alot and tina turner never publicly spoke in a way that said community was angered by 20:36 i didn't know about her art as well, it definitely wasn't advertised I Feel Love is my favorite, I wrote a story based on it
Zenobia:) your shirt, clearly a fan Selena was pregnant I didn't know that Nike, what did you think of this in comparison to the Aretha Franklin biopic with Jennifer hudson ? I know you disliked that film's lack of :) details
Richard, I don’t think you can really compare the Aretha film and Dear Mama. Aretha was a dramatic, visual biography of her life. Dear Mama included people that had some type of connection both Afeni and 2Pac. While I’m sure they were details left out of the Dear Mama documentary, you got to hear directly from people who had personal connections with both of them and who could give you some insight into their relationship and their individual personalities. Richard, what new things did you learn from this documentary?
@@moviesthatmoveswe exactly, I remember when you reviewed the aretha film, you really didn't like how it didn't have "details" , you thought it was soft on details on her life ever for a biographical drama. So I think you enjoyed the greater details in dear mama as a purer documentary. New things, I knew of his youth and rise, I didn't know much about his later days. I didn't know he was under such duress, being in the media eye can be a prison. I don't recall anyone saying he was under such pressure at the time before or after his death. I still didn't learn who killed him? I can say, I relearned an old thing, that for all the technology and capability in modernity one can still get away with a murder in such a public environment as las vegas streets.
I think remaking Claudine will be a nice testament to Ozzie Davis + Diahann Carroll. The topics are clearly relevant today merely from the fact that the majority in the black community in the usa are still financially trapped like Claudine and her clan walking down a street in northern harlem. While the characters still have validity in NYC, I do think the message will have to include the old Claudine. Because the why of a modern claudine or claudine 2023 being valid alongside claudine 1974 warrants a place in the modern film. Questions: ZEnobia- do you uncommon presentations of single mothers like Claudine are artistically distasteful? Nike- considering most women in humanity still live in an oppressed state by the men they live next to, isn't Claudine still warranted in modern times? Nike or Zenobia- Pauline wasn't in the "Whitey bad" rank of films in the 1970s. Did Ossie davis's production company have a role in that? The control of the money being black influenced the artistic process? More of My Thoughts In Depth... I did rant a little:) aalbc.com/tc/topic/10270-claudine-from-movies-that-move-we/
A remake of the movie would be interesting. Even though I’m more of a, “leave well enough alone,“ kind of person, I think an update of the movie could be a good idea. The system that Claudine was dealing with in the film still exist, but has slightly changed. It would be a good tribute to Ozzie Davis and Diane Carroll. I think the approach taken with this story was very intentional, but Ozzie Davis is production company. Even though this is qualified as a Blaxploitation film, it definitely has a more gentle tone. It still addresses a lot of the politics and issues that you find in more action driven black films of the blaxploitation genre.
That is an excellent question concerning shug night, It oddly fits. the sad element of five heartbeats is it can't be remade. I think in the same way eddie murphy remade coming to america but doesn't seem willing to touch harlem nights. the number of black legends invalidates a remake.
I admit, I am not a comedy film enthusiast. I know comedy is the film genre of the american negro:)
Nike , You don't like the work out montage in sports films? :) Zenobia, like the rocky series, the creed series is similar, it has a fanbase, loyal and love it, this isn't for drama, this is sport fiction in film Nike, yes, i think the rocky formula of the hardluck characters work. Mr. T!:) Fast forward Zenobia, what about when Rocky had the street fight with the spirit of Mic helping him in rocky 5 :) Nike, you have to love the rocky creed series:) a person come right out of jail and get a title fight ... great development story on Creed2 Zenobia, yes:) Best of the Best, Downhill Racer, the color of money all predictable:) one way or another.
Thanks -regarding the disclaimer. 😊 7:55 sadly, this is still an issue today. We saw it with Trayvon Martin, George Floyd and others. Their history (or family member’s history) become justification for their unaliving. 10:55 Yeah… what the NAACP did made sense. But we both know, that when the rules are intentionally set against you, you have to work within those confines until you find a way around in order to turn the rules in your favor. Again, as much has changed, much is still the same. 12:43 The writers and director were mindful and deliberate in their approach with this particular detail. I would hope any future films/documentaries will follow suit. The pictures of his funeral illustrate the torment Emmett suffered. We don’t need a visual reenactment. 14:40 she did ask her uncle about the gun after she saw it. I think that illustrated a couple of things: the first is, you can have a weapon to defend yourself, but in that environment, as her uncle explained, he would be bringing more trouble for himself, his family, and the broader community, if he took that particular stand. The second is that Mami felt empowered to take such a stand. It’s not that she forgot what Mississippi was like, or she didn’t comprehend what life was like for Black people in the south and deep south, it’s that a greater part of her life was spent in a space where she had more freedom and was able to use her voice compared to her southern family members. Keep in mind, even in 1955 a black person could not retaliate against a white person and not face direct harm from their attacker or reprimand in the legal system. 22:40 exactly! That is something else I saw in brief interviews with the Director and writers. Even though Emmett still has not received justice, they didn’t want this film to be a downer. I think they did a great job in focusing on Mamie, and defining her bravery, even more. It wasn’t just about her being bold enough to have an open casket service for her son, but she was navigating her grief very publicly, and somehow still managed to hold it together. (and this is not to imply that anything was easy for her or that she never broke down or that she grieved alone or had no support, but she understood that not speaking up immediately would be read as acceptance of a racist system and would reinforce the notion Emmett was guilty of something.)
smart disclaimer:) very thoughtful ... 7:55 great point on the NAACP but also the larger problem when we talk about non white people in the usa speaking about problems to a system controlled by whites. The entire idea of one's character or lifestyle being a factor in justifying abuse is the problem. 10:55 I am glad you explained the NAACP's logic but it does have that elemental flaw. You want justice for your people but you accept an unjust system of media, not only the legal system, applied to your community. I can comprehend the courts, but the media unjust is to me is why the consistency of abuse has occurred since Till. 12:43 Based on this film I comprehend why they would not recreate Till's murder, this is about Till's mother. But if they were to do a movie about Till, do you think they shall recreate Till's murder. Modern forensics can recreate it. 14:40 did she ask why he has a gun then? The gun on the wall seems silly. I comprehend his point. It has value, but the gun on the wall represents a red herring. doesn't it? 17:34 right, you have to be an non violent activist while still working nine to five 18:05 good point. Twilight Zone is beloved cause episodes like "Maple Street" or "I am the night color me black " are clearly relevant. And the "big tall wish" is an underrated Twilight zone episode. 22:40 good point, this film was meant to not be a 'downer' so to speak.
3:20 the granddaughter of talking tina of the twilight zone,the mother of chucky:) 4:90 S-I-R-I :) is she the aunt of M3gan?:) 8:09 do you think the safety controls of I -Robot that in that film were undone by a robot happened to fast in m3gan or other factors of comparison? 10:43 great question, when are tech limits set? Funny, I was telling folk in other places about how their is a large community offline, that do not have any online presence. Well, I think overall humanity will go in parts. Some people will become full integrated like ghost in the shell or the matrix. Some will be completely offline like many today aside buddhist monks and similar. and many will be in the middle.
I didn't know the development backstory, thanks for sharing
Before 10:15 One key you didn't mention is the role of women inability to own things based on male power. After 10:15 great point, one of the biggest problems with many later carmen's that the original literature doesn't miss is the other racial category of carmen. Carmen is the tragedy. Dorothy dandrige was clearly very pretty but Carmen isn't the beautiful woman every man needs to fornicate with who when withers if they fornicate with her. Carmen is an outsider , deemed another of the dominant race, who meets a dishonorable/criminal man who still lives a very good life because of his racial status, and when her admiration to him makes him feel better all is good, but when she desires a change and a better man, at least in terms of criminal record, the disgraced man of "a better race" terminates her. That is the lesson of carmen. A person of a potent race can commit crimes and still live affluent or oppulent compared to one of an impotent race, and when the one of an impotent race decides to leave the one of an opulent race the true racial relationship is revealed in the murder.
I didn't realize he followed up Malcolm with Crooklyn :) 2:55 Hmmm, it is a family tale, it has less fractious critique but the title is indicative to worse. I wonder the financing to this film. 4:09 Yes, Good history to the migration, the big phase is circa 1910 to 1970. I add the migratory wind of Blacks to and from the south is analagous to Black history in the USA after the war between the states. The migration back to the south in 90s 2000s. You are such an appropriate host, I would had said, they trying to get away from whitey:) .... by goin to whitey :) haha 6:40 a parents thought "that's a lot of people" 8:36 a real situation for many... is isiah washington still ex communicado? 13:05 good point, spike lee's sister wanted a story without the black hollywood tropes written by whites in the film world. 13:55 Great point on women's empowerment that I didn't realize when I first saw the film. 15:00 is it top three of coming of age black films? To answer your questions, doesn't remind me much. I was fortunate that my parents together made it where I never felt the money issues in the infrastructure of the home. And while I traveled to friends or relatives it was only for vacation, not for need. My childhood was different in a key way that you rightly focus on. My parents existed together in my entire childhood to maturity. I never knew the challenge of a parent who is deceased or a home where as a child the financials have radically changed. Both my parents were New Yorkers born and raised so I argue I was part of the populace of blacks who wasn't a migrant or from migratory parents whether from the southern states or the caribbean or africa. great show
13:29 The first time I saw the movie I only paid attention to what was happening on the screen. This time I had more questions about the time. ‘74 wasn’t so far from the height of the civil rights movement. I couldn’t help but dig into the story that’s behind the story.
It's called war sweetie:) well said. People forget the USA was made from war. The native american was slaughtered by the colonial settlers who then made the usa's first thirteen states. But while the history books don't suggest war, that was war. I think the woman king handled slavery well. But I will explain, they showed that the institution of slavery was bigger than the Agoji warriors. Glory doesn't deal with the civil war any better than The Woman King dealt with the Slave Trade. hahaha chicken, can't crawl for your country:) Exactly, well, the question isn't will all humans regardless of phenotype go to see movies with all black people. Most films , including all white ones, lose money. Do the white producers, who produce most films connected to the usa, want to lost money on the all black films that do not become Black PAnther or The Woman King. Great mentioning the credits content.
It took me a minute to find info again, but here is the link to Tenoch Huerta’s (playing Namor in the movie) book: www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/729150/orgullo-prieto--brown-pride-by-tenoch-huerta/
3:44 ahh it came out a bad week. 12:35 good point, I want to add, the multitude of stories is the problem. I argue the problem is, the truth is complex right. Some people were violent, some suffered, some had good fortune. it is a blend of stories. Blend of stories make the end of the civil war /13th amendment/end of slavery complicated 15:16 yes, this is a poltergeist. But i concur, the message is, what is more frightening is the human activity, the enslavement of whites onto blacks. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Garner I didn't know this thanks. 20:30 great point, i agree, from the beginning I saw this film as the poltergeist while dangerous is not as dangerous as the white slave owners, not really. The poltergeist is easier to handle and is handled easier than white folks. 21:53 yes, we don't talk about the truth in the black community. because black parents can not guarantee black children will react positively to whites or the usa with knowing it. 22:44 how can the movie be better in your view Nike? 24:09 I can tell you I know black people were not dancing about based on knowing about my mother's father's mother's life. I do not go into my personal. 24:38 yes, trauma 25:02 i think the black community in the usa made an effort to kill the life of that past in the black community in the usa, even while white people keep it alive with their actions. and i think, those black people succeeded in killing it. The modern black community in the usa, to be blunt, does not reflect a community that used its most historically relevant or elemental era in the usa, that being when enslaved to whites, as a root element of a heritage to empowerment. The Black community in the usa , is a community that reflect a discarding of its most historically relevant or elemental era in the usa. Which has been beneficial. Harmful while also Beneficial. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS What did you think of this film the first time you saw it? I didn't like the whites, which says little to nothing. but, I enjoyed the end. Maybe cause I was raised in a home with two loving parents. I enjoyed the resolution at the end, between d and sethe. Did you know at the time, about Margaret Garner? No, I did not. I never thought to research this until now. Thanks again Nike, In cheap retrospect, I Would had went another way than Morrison story wise, plot wise. But morrison being a woman, i think she wanted to redeem the black mother more than anything. I think beloved, as a poltergeist, was betrayed a little bit. I daresay, beloved is more a wraith than a poltergeist. A poltergiest for me acts wildly as a spirit but doesn't necessarily have agenda. a wraith has agenda. the woman in black is a wraith. I think beloved is a wraith. She wants her mother to give take her own life through a slow pain of neglect. that is purpose. Beloved goes away as a poltergiest not a wraith. Did you feel differently about the meaning of the film between your first watch and the last time you viewed the movie? Meaning, no , the meaning didn't change. I only add the comparison to the real event know. I remember relatives not liking that she didn't kill herself. The funny thing in the historical record it seems she was literally stopped by the whites coming to take her back to slavery. but I like how in the historical record she tried to kill herself with the youngest, but simply failed. Do you think of this as a horror movie? Yes, but I want to say, this film is a visual representation of what I will call Black Statian Slave Ghost Stories. Growing up as a kid, I was told and then later read many of these kinds of stories, usually shorter in length but the same idea. Being enslaved while dealing with a negative spirit is uncommon theme or shall i say a specific theme to the Black DOS community in the USA. this isn't for willing immigrants or whites or native americans mostly, this is a very specific genre culturally. You have a character dealing with a scenario where they are born disempowered with problems stemming from a past before they were born they can not control while now a negative spirit. I think in these stories the problem is, the horror of the ghost is less important than the horror between humans and that goes against the horror movie genre as a whole in the usa. yes, the ghost is bothering me, but I had my foot cut off and my testicles branded last month. I can't afford any more from this white man so spirit, pick a number. yeah, good one:)
like the montage of reviews 2:10 so many black female writers enjoy PEele's style. I do to but many black female writers tend to start off saying that. 5:40 exactly, I wonder if a 1960s hippie's old plan written on home made paper somewhere wasn't what hands across america stemmed from 7:50 spider grandmother en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider_Grandmother 11:36 yes, anansi, the story teller, remember anansi has a caribbean version , same name, different stories 13:09 random thought, was the homeless guy taken to a hospital carrying the sign some sort of guard for the doppels/tethers? Questions how we respond to those who have less than us? What would you do if you came face to face with your darker side? Your questions are strong. Collective reply as opposed to individual reply. In the film US, the tether abigail answers the question to individual reply by exchanging places. but the originally untethered abigail, replied to her individual revenge with a collective reply, leading all the tethers. and oddly enough, in the end, both abigails got what they wanted, in the end, the collective reply of the originally untethered abigal with hands across america happened with her side her household all killed while the tethered got her replacement life with only her male son, the "mulatto" knowing the truth about her. and her whole household lives. The power of nature here is underrated. I even argue an element of "The man who fell to earth" is used very well in this film's premise. In a man who fell to earth, the government keeps the "alien" man in a base but over time the base is forgotten. How isn't fully explained but whatever happened, the people in government who knew about this or kept it organized died or forgot or moved on, so the installation ran on autopilot, and became decrepit. like the tether's world, its sitting there. Whomever in government was supposed to manage them, stopped or moved on or died or something, where they still get electricity, but their existence is uncared for. And I like that theme of whatever the government was planning couldn't survive nature. But to your first question, to whether people have more or less, whether we want freedom or revenge, we can respond as part of a group or individually. But nature does have influence over things, At the end the tricked abigail was still naive when she was originally tricked and the tethered abigal is still dangerous when she originally forced a switch. Their varying sense of individualism or community didn't change. The tricked abigal, felt the tethered abigail in the first place, she was always communal. the tethered abigail was always an individual, never once interested in helping another tethered escape. So no matter how you respond to another, you will always be yourself eventually. Well, I will answer, what will I do if I come into contact with one of my infinite other sides? There is a version of me that is more positive than me. and thus, I am the more negative to that version. to answer the question. I don't know. Good question. the engineer in me wants to ask, how did we even meet in the first place. Nature has rules. how are we meeting is my first question, not necessarily how we will get along. But I will say this. The key to coexisting side another interpretation of you, is to be anti christian. I will explain. If you look at zoarasters-ancient kemet-aztec mythology-taoism, most spiritual belief systems accept that nature is not good or bad but all things. But the christian belief system is starkly variant. the christian tradition says god is good, thus that which is not good is not of the essence of life. If you see a version of you doing negative things that you wouldn't do, if you have in your mind the idea that to do negative things is against nature, then you will imply that the other you is unnatural and thus communication problems, coexistence problems.
13:09 - Good question! Gatekeeper? Harbinger? Both? 🤔 My thought on how we respond to those who have less than…many do it with ego. For those of us who have more, we engage those with less in order to feel better - to show we’ve done a good deed - to get a gold star from the almighty…whatever the reason, it usually isn’t because of a TRUE sense of community. (If we’re honest with ourselves…) Frankly, if I came face to face with my darker side, I’d chuck deuces and RUN! I know the things I’ve thought and felt in my darkest moments and I don’t EVER want that person to manifest in the flesh! 😰 With regard to something I mentioned in the video and touching on your mention of zoroastrian belief: Soul ties between specific characters…I don’t think Red was eliminated. 🤔 I don’t think Addy and Red were untethered. Therefore, Red got what she came for. What do you think?
@@moviesthatmoveswe ahh good point, gatekeeper plus harbinger, right... hmm true and in defense of modernity, community matters. Most of us are raised as children seeing adults who act in kindness and get some reward for their ego. So, communities have a role in teaching this, hands across america like most of these donation based activities do little but people who give money to them can say they do good by giving money. it isn't their fault they don't check on where their money is spent. fair enough, to thy own self be true. conerning doppelgangers that term takes on a very true meaning. wait, Red ain't dead!:) haha I saw the film a number of times. Now I need to rewatch it. IF Red isn't dead, then Red got all she wanted, not merely the hands across america thing but the elimination of that fake household of hers. But I concur to you, both the original Adelaide and the Switched Adelaide got what they wanted.
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I really enjoyed getting these insights on the movie. I don't think Jean Jacket was in the area of the set when Gordy went crazy because the electricity was still on.
To your point, one theory suggested that the purpose of the show was simply to keep Jupe from looking directly at Gordy. 🤔 Not unreasonable, but it doesn’t explain why the shoe was pointing toe upward. 🤷🏾♀️ We gotta wait for Jordan Peele to explain it at some point. 😁
Hello ladies, if i could make a recommendation for a review, could y'all discuss Sam Jackson's project "The Last Days of Ptolemy Grey?" Its one of the most beautiful stories ive seen in a while. Its a six episode miniseries on apple tv and will stick with you forever. Id say its his best work.
I’ve got to see this movie soon!
thought someone posted a entire recording of the movie lol
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Great review ladies. I will not spoil your commentary with my time index comments as I listened to you ladies, and I hope many others do to. You both were brilliant. Great points. ... Nicole, your dress is abstract but pretty just like the Blue flower Nike. POINTS you guys made I liked alot. 8:04 or 23:44 Nike - the role of Perception in the film 25:40 Nicole - description of the films place in genres 33:35 Both- the nonchalance against common sense:) very funny 37:54 Nike- Lovely real life example of how people judge a film strictly, advertise their judgement to influence others, but don't even fully assess a film, by their own admission. But how can one recant in real time 40:16 Nicole- yes, I concur to the relationship to both Peele and the director you mention who in their time in the sun:) had the ability to make films that be thought provoking or artful WHILE also commercial. I don't think it is unimportant to say that Nope covered its cost of production. 49:44 Both - Keith David is a very fortunate thespian. Not merely being a thespian having less opportunty, cause he is black and media in the USA is owned by whites, who do favor giving opportunity to whites. But, Keith David has been able to be part of many thoughtful films in the film itself or its role in genre setting in various genres: The THing;The Live;Pitch Black;Nope<science fiction>[Keith David has successfully been a black character in a science fiction film that has lived at the end more than once, died before the 15 minute mark and died just before the end:) ] / Platoon<war film>/ Bird<documentary> [where he played a criminalized version of buster smith] /Roadhouse<action>People don't realize how some films hollywood has been heavily inspired by and never been able to repeat /The Quick and the Dead<western> [a female led western back when it wasn't so easy to see being financed]/PRincess Mononoke <anime>[the studio ghibli collection itself is something else... his voice is everywhere, ever since, and shout to tv show gargoyles]/Crash <social commentary vignettes>[hollywood has tried to find the next crash since crash]/The Inheritance<My personal favorite film with him in it, the story is a rare thing in its message> Great review again, I don't think I spoiled any of your review
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2:23 yes, a relative of mine was titled, a kitchen mechanic :) and I didn't make that up. 4:30 and also the fear of media. We forget that the white community in the usa at that time had a complete cancel culture on any black person that had their name attached to anything in media that said, This aint right. 6:03 I love your usage of the term: her nanny, that symbolizes the problem in this film. A white woman's childhood based nostalgia for a fantasy of care that is built on the adult world she isn't being told of as a child, but carries into adulthood. 7:40 your right Nike, yes, some historian can pull up a woman named liberdade freedoms who owned land and a bank account, but most women were barred from that in various ways. And many or most women in humanity are still barred today. 10:12 thank you, because the problem with the angry black woman trope is what should a black woman in 1950s 1960s deep south be but angry? 11:08 I quote sissy spacek:) run may run!!! 11:30 what are your thoughts to the young white female in The Help in comparison to the young white female in mona lisa smile? 13:49 I like your view of the lead white character. This isn't a white freedom fighter for the rainbow, this is a white anthropologist. 14:59 is she the savior when she can be the only mouthpiece? 17:25 good review:) well done
3:29 I do have a question of the legitimacy of the ignorant spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend character in films? Can a mob man that brazzen really keep his activities secret? hmmm 4:35 haha bette midler was cast first, of course throw away role 5:10 Dolores , has whoopie ever explained the source of this 5:50 didn't know about Carrie Fisher 6:50 whoopie sang all her parts, wow! didn't know about the other 7:47 that is a great story, I will love to have seen them, dancing on the tables when they won:) *:23 yes, your right I will:) even though you told me before:) haha 8:25 25 years that show been on , wow! 9:20 that is a great question, with audio copying, I guess it fell like the rest of audio recording industry 10:47 didn't know they came out back to back , love lauryn hill 11:23 sister act 2 may challenge parents with teenage kids:) 12:02 it was relatives who introduced me to both films.
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11:11 great question, is it horror? is it time travel? ... I think the definitions, plural, of horror or time travelling stories are numerous enough to say yes to both questions, depending on the definition chosen. Maybe with adjectives , historical horror or conditional time travel, many others besides you or me can come on board?
9:47 I love your statement, she goes from dressing like harriet tubman to foxy brown. Is Alice in her revenge story, the antithesis of Solomon Northrup sitting in the carriage near his white savior as patsy yell out his name and faint.
7:58 also freedom in fiscal capitalism is about ownership. One must be free in the mind but, financially, owners are the most free in fiscal capitalism. And, all to often black people do not own for all our various employments, whether respected or disrespected