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The is way better because before it was very old and stagnant feeling

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Kind of agree with some of the information here about the speed of technological advancement. And the concept that your education/knowledge *SHOULD* be additive. I started in the mainframe world, went to the unix world, then then the networking world, then network security world which I've been in that for the last 25 years. But being in an outsourcing environment the other skills were still in use weekly if not daily. That being said I've seen over the decades the continual decline of the base knowledge levels, and willingness to learn the historical basis (i.e. how we got to where we are) of newer employees. This kind of dovetails with the conversation of the 'push button' or similar automation tools where people are not 'needing' to know the how, why, what in the daily jobs (which is NOT new, this also happened 40 years ago with mainframe programing for example). I call this the George Jetson syndrome (i.e. pushing the button from the cartoon) but has zero knowledge of what to do when things go wrong. This has caused more issues than I can count and usually comes to my desk when we acquire a new client. I.e. have to 'clean up' years/decades of thoughtless processes or lack of understanding. This is, unfortunately, 'unpaid' work in that the client does not really /pay/ to clean this up (they just have their environment degrade to the point where it's near collapse and then outsource it). But when we take over an environment unless it's cleaned up the FTE count to run/maintain said environment would be a loss leader. The problem is that even in outsourcing the same mindset applies and affects teams there the same way. The same eroding of talent to replace people with the 'lowest cost' option (i.e. usually going toward countries where wages are suppressed like India, Poland, etc) and management only really looks at the cost of the body not the competency of the work. In regards to network security specifically, I've found that generally people coming to it from a unix or programing (traditional like C/c++, fortran, perl/python, etc) generally have a better time in understanding the complexities. I.e. Yes, network skills are *VERY* useful and yes, you need to know how to analyze packet captures and understand at least the major network & routing protocols (IP, ICMP, TCP, UDP, BGP, OSPF, IS-IS, etc). But that normally applies to network security DESIGN not operational threat analysis and mitigation which goes more towards application and user behavior. So it's more like you allow say SSH through a firewall. Ok, well that's a tunneling protocol, what can be tunneled through that? How can you determine if it's bulk data or interactive? How to limit what channel type it is and the flow of information? Or if you have X access to a system, how can that access be subverted to do something unwanted and how to prevent that? Usually it's a mindset (in the security space at least) that needs to be inculcated. I try to send people to the PoC||GTFO or similar. It does not need to be about networking or security per se but the mindset of 'how can I use X in a way not anticipated' and then you have to then figure out a way to mitigate that potential exposure.

The military network engineers arent going anywhere lol

I’m also salty. Cable guys were considered essential during the pandemic but didn’t get the essential pay rate. SMH 🤦🏾‍♂️. There are people that been here when it all started and I decided this is not how I’m going to end my career. To Cisco, I’m on my way.

Thankyou for uploading this video, His books are very useful to my entire network journey, fulfilled my knowledge . Greetings from India

What happened to packetlife site? Is it gone forever or moved to a new site?

Nice to have you here Dan

So what how fast does google load

Damn, you guys are amazing. Both of you. It's like both of you are inside my head. As a topic comes up, you touch on all the things I notice about a particular role, who it's more geared toward, challenges in our industry, challenges in particular roles and why you think these challenges exist, etc. Love listening to you guys.

Really enjoyed this episode. Thanks gents!

Thanks for sharing this video, very informative!

OT = Outside Technology good one

Beowulf Cluster of Doom!

But can it run Minecraft? 😂

1,2 ❤😂

Epic

Enjoyed it!

Weird. But I somehow never considered that Wendell Odom was an actual person with a voice, personality, etc. I've read so much of his work and subconsciously thought he was some sort of AI chatbot. Really appreciated this episode.

Didn't you guys already post this interview?

Here listening to her and amazing

Hey guys!!! Love your podcast and what y’all do. Can you guys do an episode on how to nail it in a network administrator role. Things to look at, what kind of things to have in place to be successful (tools), how to handle/schedule your day to day operations x projects. How to continue to learn about your infrastructure and the technologies you use? When to preferably alter configuration and do test. Also what books to read to if you’re trying to improve in such a role. I’d greatly appreciate it you guys can give us gems on this topic.

Don’t sneeze you will give it a virus .. what would you do with an infinite budget .. upgrade the hdd

Wow ! A good one ! Time to invite the GOAT, now ? Todd Lammle !

Your "Ten Thousand" vid playlist actually sounds like a good idea for flashcard-style learning. Let us know how that recording session goes!

Netbox is my favorite tool for keeping shit documented

Hey everyone, great podcast! I'm the sole Systems Administrator for a small school district, managing the entire network. I have my CCNA and am currently studying for my CCNP. Every issue you mentioned-like DHCP, DNS, and firewall region blocking-is something I've encountered in my role. I really appreciate the insights on NTP, logging, and multicast. Since I work alone, I don’t have a mentor to help me learn how to build more robust systems, so this podcast was incredibly helpful. Thanks!

Craig seems like a really smart guy, going to start following him across platforms

I am studying for the ccna, now I gotta become an aws solutions architech, devnet pro, and learn programming oh and quickly get my ccnp because ccna is not enough anymore.

Ok boomer

Forget Ethernet - R O U T E R like in root ter...

Approaching 1 year in IT in August. This time last year I was a beer delivery driver. So helpful to hear these kinds of stories from early career for those of us mapping our path. Thanks fellas!

this is a very nice episode. I dont understand why especially network engineers dont have patience to answer simple questions, when we start troubleshooting i ask a lot of questions and my team usually get bored but i always ends up finding the solution to issue at hand.

i love this this is great try to leve my Mcdonald job for tech lol Mcdonald with a ccna and other stuff I can male snand and fix the network

Can we get a link for the app please 🙏 🙂

love the mildly autistic and awkward geeky conversations

200GBPS for Outof band network ?! I never thought of that.. I was wondering may be it is 2GBPS for management network

Some questions/ comments: 1) For the first time, i see Tim and Andy's expressions were like, everything is flying over their head 😄 (no offence at all, same was the case with me) 2) Definitely more such episodes please ! 3) Can we consider IoT and OT to be similar ? 4) Could "StuxNet" have been possible, if OT wasnt integrated with IT ?

"Boring Tech Podcast" 😂😂 PERFECT way to find the channel! LOL

Definitely, gonna start hopping on Thursdays!

I officially started my Journey to CCIE

Real housewives of AONE!

We lost a great one..☹

GiggleBits?!?

AI = Alcoholic Inspiration. I have heard the What, So What, Now What but in the context of resume reviews from CyberInsecurity. Always look forward to new episode Wednesdays.

My imposter syndrome faded away when I was working with a double CCIE that we brought in to help with a case and I heard him say; "I don't know, but we'll figure it out together." Every ounce of imposter syndrome I had faded away then. We're all doing the best we can, no matter our level of expertise.

I didn't enjoy this as much as I thought I would. My criticism and suggestions below: 1. It would have made more sense to plan/script some of these conversations (e.g. the example of what a flop/exflop was pointless. Even saying: ("Add 1.5 + 1.5", that's a FLOP, if everyone on Earth does the calculation at the same time, that's a 8 Gigaflops, now if we had 125,000,000 Planet Earths doing a calculation per second, this would be the same power.) 2. Really didn't talk much about the Network, very wishwashy/high level. A 5-minute whiteboard session could have added more detail. Seems there was another Team who managed the HPC Fabric vs. the "Classic Network" that could have been consulted. Really not much detail, most of this detail had to be sighted from the b-roll. 3. Asking the applications used on the HPC would have been better asked to a user/scientist 4. Could have included a tour of the operations centre/NOC and other areas (HVAC, Power) would have been interesting. These are all supporting areas which are interesting 5. This could have been 10 minutes long 6. The guest mentions early in the video it's 200 Gbps Ethernet, yet the question is asked again in the video