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@@thriftydrifter1080 hey! I am married! And I am in the springs now as well. We will have to catch up some time so you can meet my wife!

​@@AcesOfAverage That would be awesome! I'm currently nine months with our second babe, so maybe we can catch up sometime in the spring when it's nice out and go on an easy hike.

Wow thanks for the encouragement

I'm not sure how I feel about using the slip knots. I know of people that use them as back ups, but for me personally, I feel like it is easier to either tie them the wrong way, or have the rope snag and untie the slips. I think you would have to decide if it is safe enough for you personally. 2 years later, I still think it is a safe system, but also clunky. It is a good skill to know if you ever get in a pickle, and if you want to project a more vertical wall I'd say go for it. The rope I used in this video is a 9.8mm and it was pushing the limit for what is feasible in terms of how easily I could pull slack out.

Right, As I said in the description, a prusik is NOT a viable back up for this system and should not be used.

@@AcesOfAverage I'm not for everyone, but then again, I'm not trying to sell myself on YT. Imaging have no credibility when you have so much competition. You sound like you've received participation trophies your whole life. LOL

@@mondavou9408 oh I'm not trying to sell my self of YT, but was just trying to make a video to help others make a buying decision :) Engineers are known for not being able to spell, so I i'll own it -\_(' . ')__/ haha I pray life gets more cheerful for ya friend!

He could lose the fake accent trying to make country people with a drawl in their voice sound stupid.

It is dangerous to do.

No, a prusik is NOT recommended with this method. since the atc is on your belay loop a prusik (even if used on the leg loop, which is no longer considered good practice) could reach the atc causing the prusik to disengage and become useless. You will see many other rope soloing techniques using some method to maintain seperation between their primary and secondary pieces of equipment for this same reason.... You don't ever want your two progress capture devices to touch eachother (it could cause one or both pieces to disengage).

​@@AcesOfAveragehow about extending the atc like when rappelling? Then one could attach the prusik to the tie-in loop and still have separation?

@@FxdGearQueer I have two initial fears with this idea 1). You could potentially be taking a dynamic fall onto a piece of extention geaar (probably a sling or dogbone or something similar) which typically isnt the best (one could argue that it be ok depending the amount and type of rope you are climbing with... I still wouldn't advise it). This is similar to taking a big fall onto a personal anchor system. They are not really made for large dynamic falls. 2). The idea behind using the knots as backups is that if the belay device fails, then you would potentially slide down to the knot below. If you use a prusik, there is a possibility that the belay device slides down the rope and simply disengages the prusik and then you plumet to your doom. Good question tho. And just be advised I am not a certified instructor,so take my advice as advice and not truth (although i am an engineer and have been climbing for 15years, so I'd to think i have a decent idea of the forces applied to dynamic systems.. but im definitely not beyond mistakes!).

Edited: The point of this video is not to show the "best" way to TPS, but rather to show a simple way with minimal gear. This method of ascending can be useful in an emergency situation if needing to ascend low class climbing (especially since most climbers do not carry ascenders with them when climbing). This method does not use static rope (and cannot be used with static rope).

@@AcesOfAverage I trust Petzl that has tested and recommends ascenders over you. The majority of top rope solo climbers all use ascenders while some UK climbers prefer shunts. Even toothed ascenders like the micro traxion, probably the most popular TRS device, wont tear the sheath below 6kN. (And it will still stop the fall)Leading you are never going to get over 4 kN unless you are close to factor 2, top rope you wont get anywhere near that. A properly set up and used TRS sytem will not shockload. You are the only guy I have ever heard of using an ATC. Sorry if Im sceptical that you know better then everyone else.

@@christophh9477 It looks like you've misunderstood the purpose of this video. I've edited my response above. If you want information about TPS'ing with ascenders watch another video or see this link: www.petzl.com/US/en/Sport/General-principles-for-solo-climbing-with-a-fixed-belay-rope?ActivityName=multi-pitch-climbing. Edit: It is also worth noting that toothed ascenders CAN completely de-sheath a rope at less than 6kN depending on the rope used AND it is possible to reach those kinds of forces when TPS if slack builds in the system on accident ... There are videos on youtube showing this.

Its pretty cool since there is a lot of mesh on the tent. If you don't need the rainfly of course it is great. If you need the rainfly to keep dew off then you can maybe you can stake open a door to let even more air through

Thanks man!

Good input! The leg loop Prusik is a habit that dies hard since extending the rappel means it’s harder to transfer from the anchor to the rappel, but you are totally right! It is definitely an antiquated technique that isn’t recommended

@@AcesOfAverage i think I'm a lot older than you, so if i can change... Lol

@@AcesOfAverage Oh, and I switched to a Giga Jul Which is brake assist and you can skip the back up. It is an amazing piece of gear. Love mine.

@@versusgravity I think it depends on the rope/biner combo. My gigajul locks up fine on fat gym ropes, but on my 9.8 and 9.5 it won't lock up for the life of me. I've tried multitudes of different biners with no luck.

Actually I am aware, Thanks for offering though! In many situtations, it definitely could be more dangerious, but in this situtaiton it was not :) Scroll down for a full mathematic explanation of how angles effect forces on anchors. I'm sure you are aware that you can’t possibly know the full situation from ~15 seconds of video, nor can you actually tell the angle of the master point from gopro. Here is some background to prove my point: Neither of the trees quite passed my monolithic anchor requirements, so the judgement call I made was to put a marginally greater force on the anchor points (marginal since the angle of the anchor point was approximately a 60/40 degree split), but then be able to have a redundant anchor point (i.e. the cam). This was extra advantageous since using the monolithic set up also put the rope over a sharp edge. Furthermore, the static rope was not long enough to do anything else with the equipment I had with me at the time. The force onto an anchor is not as trivial as many diagrams online show, but the math is still covered in most high school physics courses. Most diagrams online assume the equal sharing of weight between two master points. This is almost NEVER the case in real life. When looking at a real-life example, the most reasonable mathematic approximation must use a system of two equations. For simplicity, let’s use the two following equations: The summation of forces in the X and Y directions on the master point. Sigma.X = 0 = Anchor1.XForces + Anchor2.XForces + Climber.XForces. Sigma.Y = 0 = -Climber.YForces +Anchor1.YForces + Anchor2.YForces We will align our Y coordinate unit vector to the unit vector of the climber’s pull, thus Climber.XForces = 0 Let the variable Gamma represent the angle between X axis and the Anchor1.Force.UnitVector. Similarly, Let the variable Theta represent the angle between the X axis and the Anchor2.Force.UnitVector. Lets now set equations to describe Anchor1.YForces and Anchor2.Yforces Anchor1.YForces = Anchor1.XForces/Tan(Gamma) Anchor2.YForces = Anchor2.XForces/Tan(Theta) Using the Sigma.X equation we see that Anchor1.XForces = Anchor2.XForces Since Anchor1.XForces = Anchor2.XForces we can express the forces of Anchor2.YForces in terms of Anchor1.XForces via the following: Anchor2.YForces = Anchor1.XForces/Tan(Theta) Therefore: Sigma.Y = Climber.YForces = Anchor1.Xforces/Tan(Gamma) + Anchor1.XForces/Tan(Theta) These are all the equations we need to solve the problem. In the video Climber.YForces would NEVER come close to exceeding > 2.5 kN so we will use this as the worst case. And if Gamma = ~60Degrees & Theta =~40Degrees In a top-rope fall producing 2.5kN (pretty much a worst-case scenario): Force on Anchor 1 (i.e. the tree) = 1.63kN Force on Anchor 2 (i.e. the cam) = 2.35kN This is somewhere near a 5.5 safety factor if not greater. AKA: Super safe, and still keeping the rope off any sharp edges, and keeping the anchor point above the climbing route to remove the risk of swinging after a fall. In reality the forces would actually be even smaller since the static rope still has some stretch and thus the angles between the masterpoint and the anchor points decrease with the rope stretch; not to mention the friction of the rope on the rocks absorbs some of the force before reaching the anchor points. I hope this has been educational for you, and if you would like a video with a diagram to explain the math let me know! 😊

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Yep, but you might not have that gear when you need to ascend the rope, but will likely have a brake assisted belay device, and this method will get you up there safely. I wouldn't choose this as my regular TR solo method (rope feed will suck), but knowing it might save your butt one day.

I agree with @fionaandrews1939. There are few things I’d change if going back and remaking this video, (ex. The unorthodox yet fully legitimate anchor setup, and rappel setup), but I decided to leave the video up since all other “rope ascension with atc” type videos don’t really showcase how you can actually climb with it. In an emergency situation, climbing is probably the fastest and physically easiest method for ascending a route rather than inching up bit by bit like a prusik method or ascender method

Great falls national park. Its definitley slept on.

Great Falls National Park. Not sure of the name of this specific wall. Its a beautiful place though, and funny enough I also so happen to have went climbing at otter cliffs a few months ago and made a quick video on my time in Maine. That is also an incredible place to climb... although I still don't know why they decided to go witht the weird staple type anchor systems there (that bugged me for some reason).