My favorite character in any genre. He is everything. The good the bad and the ugly all in one character. Its so well written and acted that i cant compare Londo to anything.
Disliked him first as the Narn looked cooler to me as a kid and he is a bit of a pompous ass at times. But his "my shoes are to tight"-speech hit home. Also how he wanted Adirs to have that family heirloom even if her main objective at first was to act as a spy.
I only just noticed even after viewing this scene countless times. Exactly at the "She kissed me right here" moment @ 1:18 or so you can hear an oddly fitting background chuckle from off screen. No doubt meant to be part of the background but I only heard it as I had to chuckle to myself as well at Londo's action.
Can it be THAT bad? Only if you actually care about doing something useful to actually defeat evil. Otherwise, it's just a colossal waste of time and effort.
Actualy seems like G was not angry he had to pay for the drinks and all things considerd Mollari did help ten if not hundred fold even G’Kar who destested him in beginning got to respect him at the minimum so he could bot been that bad afte all
@@leptok3736 Yep and he did cheer G up and made him laugh inside and Mollari might have expected that drink but he also did it becose he saw one who he considerd friend was down and feeling low and that made it the «yep expected me but he deserved that drink»
Makes sense in context: one reason why humanity has never looked alcohol the same way as other drugs is that it is so interconnected to our developement as a species that we cannot look it with the same disdain like say heroin or cocaine(Weed is starting to become normalized, but otherwise not many intoxicants outside of tobacco enjoy same status as Alcohol). Hell, only 200 years ago, US used Whisky as a currency and paid wages and goods with it. There was actually a real crisis over it. ruclips.net/video/wpc9GQEy0bg/видео.html But the Centauri have such a normalized relationship with alcohol which goes even further that of humans. They even see as their duty to be at least little tipsy and have such a normalized relationship with alcohol that they consider sobrierity to be a vice.
Hmm, that wasn't Timov, she despised him, and was too high-class ever to have been a dancer. Maybe the deadly beauty? Again, too high class. Maybe the social climber? He never got to marry the dancer Adira.
I too always wondered which of his 3 wives he was talking about in this scene - unless it was an oversight on the part of the writers? Especially since in the episode with the photos of his 3 wives, he states that they were all arranged marriages.
@@mysticwolf75 Option 1 is a mistake on the writers' part which is always possible. Option 2 is Londo is just lying to make a better story. Which is entirely within his character so that's what I'm going with.
Wasn't there a later episode (or was it the movie where he recounted the Earth/Mimbari war?) where he said that his father made him divorce his first wife (the dancer)?
@@grendel123 I don't remember that, but I remember in "In the Beginning", he mentions having 4 wives, one of them being Centauri Prime, and that he loved them all dearly (which I thought was a bald-faced lie, since he didn't really love any of his 3 wives!)
@@em.1633A good proportion of smartest scientists on the planet, as well as Nobel peace prize winners, are deeply religious. But go on, tell me how being faithless is a virtue and makes your life more meaningful.
@@countingsheep95123 and Immanuel Kant thought black people were born white with black belly buttons that grew as they got older. Scientific intelligence isn't some sort of end-all defining factor for your ability to critically think, especially in the context of something with such intense societal and familial pressure as the religion you're raised to believe.
Because humans have become so attractive in our world of convenience and excess? Odds are, we might just look like some nice meat animals to a 'stupid' alien. And they'd be right in respect to what we're good for, or at least most of us. 😁Well, not me of course.
How is he a Bene Gesserit? How is any HE a Bene Gesserit? I'm serious, is it a reference to the new movies' style? Because if anything he looks like a mentat from the old movie to me
@@MickAshMetalMan sorry, I didn't want to come out as angry or nothing, I was genuinely curious about what you meant because my mind immediately went to Thufir Hawat's hair. And I meant the HE as in, aren't Bene Gesserit women only? Paul being the exception, and even then, he's technically not a Bene Gesserit. Sorry if I sounded confrontational, I'll refresh my memory on how the Bene Gesserit looked on the Lynch movie
@@MickAshMetalMan aight, I looked it up and that was a genius reference. I remembered the baldness but not the "crown", I tip my hat to thee on thoust vastness of knowledge and referential humour. Once again, I'm not being a Richard, I'm genuinely complimenting you and apologising.
Man, I love shows that aren't just skin deep. This moment, even if a bit corny, shows the DEVELOPMENT of a relationship between two characters. Not a romantic one. Not a 'you killed my family' one. Friendship, the most common one. The characters in this show aren't static stereotypes, they shift and move in response to the chaotic world they live in.
Agreed. The characters' evolution on the show was phenomenal. When I first saw the series it was in its original run, and I came in mid-season 2, either right before or right after Londo made the deal. It was only years later did I get a chance to see season 1, and the very different places Londo and G'Kar started from. Just amazing. (My roommate hadn't seen any of it yet, so any time the Londo-G'Kar conflict came up in the first season, I had to bite my tongue to keep from giving things away.)
@@eledhwenmare2403And there are chunks of it that have aged depressingly-well, given the context. But so much of it still holds up on a fundamental level.
I would have LOVED if he said. "It turns out she was an assassin who had placed nuerogenic poison on her lips! Now I survived, after 16 days in a coma but my point is! It can't be that bad! We're still friends if you must know?" I liked the merry thing...but they should have done that.
Why couldn't Londo have stayed this merry boisterous fellow instead of all those terrible things which ended up happening to him? He was so much fun in the early part of the series. We all have our share of trouble so for there to be a laughing old rogue around to cheer us up means the world.
A lot of bad things happened to him, à lot he also chose to commit. His character arc shows how even a "normal" funny fellow can becole a full fledged villain in the right circumstances (and have his redemption arc also).
Because all actions have consequences, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions. It's a tragic downfall, because his heart, mostly, is in the right place, and it shows how arduous the road back from the edge can be.
@@ghandimauler sure but it's quality storytelling. He is not coerced into becoming a monster, he doesn't have a tragic backstory like dark vador or many other villains. He is a funny character with some character flaws that we gloss over at first and also some qualities that make him endeering. At first he is even in his right, responding to unprovoked narn attack, you can take his side (and g'kar is quite ruthless as far as antagonists go). Yet these same character traits that we like (patriotism, acting to defend his people against the narns, à little bit of cunning ambition...) will lead him toward a path of pure evil (war crimes and then state crimes in occupied territory borderibg on genocide). That is excellent writing. The way the same actor can portray both the funny, carefree londo of the beginning, the warmongering yet haunted by his crimes londo of the middle seasons and the wise, redeemed, dying leader post war of shadows is also remarkable. You can criticize modern television butceven back then, you wouldn't get such performances very often.
@@thomasfevre9515Very well-put. Also, I'm not sure we'll ever see a pair of actors so perfect for sparring with each other as Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas (RIP) could, even while both characters underwent substantial growth and development.
Londo always made me laugh... He was usually the most honest character in the show, next to G'Kar... Of the two, not sure which i liked better. I miss good character development...
The chemistry of G’kar and Londo never tires me, their relationships are complex and run all the spectrum between mortal enemies to best friends in uneven order throughout the whole show.
@@Xottapchenko Their friendship is based in the familiarity and understanding that only long time rivals have. It's great writing. I do love how each of the nations is complex, rather than just being all about a token aspect of culture like in Star Trek.
I imagine there's a shelf full of glasses back in his quarters.
good title, surprised it isnt a meme already
I love Londo
''No homo, Mr. Garibaldi.''
What episode is that from? 😅
One of the first ones in S1
A Voice in the Wilderness part 1. Double episode from season 1.
@@Ama-hi5kn TY, updated description @eliza5844 FYI
@@gallonfizik @Ama-hi5kn Thank you to both of you ^^
I loved this show growing up. Would watch it every week when the new episodes came out.
Seeing it out of context, I forget what upset Mr. Garibaldi in this episode.
Whatever it was. It could not have been that bad.
He lost contact with an old flame. They left on bad terms and she's on mars during an uprising, and he couldn't get a hold of her.
There has never been nor will there ever be another like Londo. He has always been my favorite sci fi character.
My favorite character in any genre. He is everything. The good the bad and the ugly all in one character. Its so well written and acted that i cant compare Londo to anything.
Disliked him first as the Narn looked cooler to me as a kid and he is a bit of a pompous ass at times. But his "my shoes are to tight"-speech hit home. Also how he wanted Adirs to have that family heirloom even if her main objective at first was to act as a spy.
I think most of you are missing the point of this story.....this is the best retelling of the definition of "Coyote Love" ever!
Londo has mastered the art of scamming drinks by picking the sad loner at the bar and getting him in a trance with a good story.
Rotten luck for Londo that very soon, it could be that bad
I only just noticed even after viewing this scene countless times. Exactly at the "She kissed me right here" moment @ 1:18 or so you can hear an oddly fitting background chuckle from off screen. No doubt meant to be part of the background but I only heard it as I had to chuckle to myself as well at Londo's action.
Can it be THAT bad? Only if you actually care about doing something useful to actually defeat evil. Otherwise, it's just a colossal waste of time and effort.
Ah, Londo... *lol*
sat and stewed
Actualy seems like G was not angry he had to pay for the drinks and all things considerd Mollari did help ten if not hundred fold even G’Kar who destested him in beginning got to respect him at the minimum so he could bot been that bad afte all
It's the difference in feeling scammed out of a drink vs oh right, he pulled me outta the hole, a drink is a fair price for it.
@@leptok3736 Yep and he did cheer G up and made him laugh inside and Mollari might have expected that drink but he also did it becose he saw one who he considerd friend was down and feeling low and that made it the «yep expected me but he deserved that drink»
Londo at the beginning of the series, while he has lots of freedom but no responsibilities.
thats why i like the first season the most. its bad quality but its happy, not-dark
Everybody in these comments is acting like a zoomer tiktok addict and it makes me want to kill myself.
Do a backflip.
It can't be that bad
"Youth is wasted on the young." I bet you like that one.
XO
I watched this one last night, Londo's story was brilliant,
I love this scene. I repeated this story to a few people when I find them being depressed.
Tried it, got arrested ;)
Babylon 5 Staffel 1 Episode 18 - Angriff der Aliens - Teil 1 Babylon 5 Season 1 Episode 18 - A Voice In The Wilderness - Part 1
"Water. I never touch the stuff."
ok farnham
Makes sense in context: one reason why humanity has never looked alcohol the same way as other drugs is that it is so interconnected to our developement as a species that we cannot look it with the same disdain like say heroin or cocaine(Weed is starting to become normalized, but otherwise not many intoxicants outside of tobacco enjoy same status as Alcohol). Hell, only 200 years ago, US used Whisky as a currency and paid wages and goods with it. There was actually a real crisis over it. ruclips.net/video/wpc9GQEy0bg/видео.html But the Centauri have such a normalized relationship with alcohol which goes even further that of humans. They even see as their duty to be at least little tipsy and have such a normalized relationship with alcohol that they consider sobrierity to be a vice.
@@Ruosteinenknight holy crap. I need to book a Transport to Centauri Prime right away!
Hmm, that wasn't Timov, she despised him, and was too high-class ever to have been a dancer. Maybe the deadly beauty? Again, too high class. Maybe the social climber? He never got to marry the dancer Adira.
I too always wondered which of his 3 wives he was talking about in this scene - unless it was an oversight on the part of the writers? Especially since in the episode with the photos of his 3 wives, he states that they were all arranged marriages.
@@mysticwolf75 Option 1 is a mistake on the writers' part which is always possible. Option 2 is Londo is just lying to make a better story. Which is entirely within his character so that's what I'm going with.
@@TheScourge007 Good point!
Wasn't there a later episode (or was it the movie where he recounted the Earth/Mimbari war?) where he said that his father made him divorce his first wife (the dancer)?
@@grendel123 I don't remember that, but I remember in "In the Beginning", he mentions having 4 wives, one of them being Centauri Prime, and that he loved them all dearly (which I thought was a bald-faced lie, since he didn't really love any of his 3 wives!)
ah londo. Both showing he cares in his weird way. and getting a free drink out of it.
Londo being Londo.
I've had a few "Friends' like him. Total leeches and freeloaders!
@@oculosprudentium8486 he's one of the better ones at least. first makes sure you're doing ok legitimately then hurts your wallet
It’s like watching Star Trek for idiots.
*All* space shows are propaganda for idiots.
@@True_Christian ironic coming from a magic sky god worshipper
Star Trek for idiots is just 99% of Star Trek.
@@em.1633A good proportion of smartest scientists on the planet, as well as Nobel peace prize winners, are deeply religious. But go on, tell me how being faithless is a virtue and makes your life more meaningful.
@@countingsheep95123 and Immanuel Kant thought black people were born white with black belly buttons that grew as they got older. Scientific intelligence isn't some sort of end-all defining factor for your ability to critically think, especially in the context of something with such intense societal and familial pressure as the religion you're raised to believe.
I never married a stripper, I do understand the sentiments however.
This level of dialog reminds me of the likes of Leave it to Beaver or the Brady Bunch where writers wrote 10 episodes in as many minutes.
Are you on crack? LITB is one of the best-written shows of *all-time* and easily the #1 sitcom ever made.
You probably worship buffy or some shit
Man what’s with all the hate in these comments you’re all naming great shows, it’s not a competition, we can enjoy them all!
@@jbca Stupid internet edge lords that still live in mom's basement.
Lovely friendly drunkards really get it!
RUclips algo's are trying to say something to me again.
They are pushing this nonsense on me too, even though I am a strong anti-heliocentrism advocate in all ways.
Do you ever think that maybe ... it is slowly gaining sentience?
@@Grubnar im starting to think that yes.
Kirkland Bruce Willis
Forgot how good this show was.
If aliens look that fucking stupid let’s just stay on earth
Because humans have become so attractive in our world of convenience and excess? Odds are, we might just look like some nice meat animals to a 'stupid' alien. And they'd be right in respect to what we're good for, or at least most of us. 😁Well, not me of course.
Completely stupid
Nah, they won’t look that stupid. They’ll look a different stupid.
You looked around your fellow citizens
There is no such thing as outer space or aliens or ball rock planets. It's *all* Hollywood & government & MSM propaganda.
With that hair he is spreading happiness wherever he goes :D
Reminds you of Roman Centurions at some point no? The generals or what not.
just a wonderful scene
can’t tell which guy’s hairline is worse
I had no idea Captain Crunch was such a womanizer.
the writing on the old 90s shows was so good.
Space vampires are scary.
People like this come and try to talk to me in the park I hate it
B5 and LEXX, my fave 90s SciFi TV shows
Heyyyy.. I worship His Shadow too ! :-)
everytime i see the number 790 i start laughing
Man that Bene Gesserit guy is overacting! Props to Bruce Willis for his patience
Lmao… it does look like him
How is he a Bene Gesserit? How is any HE a Bene Gesserit? I'm serious, is it a reference to the new movies' style? Because if anything he looks like a mentat from the old movie to me
@@taiyoqun Wowowowow, easy on that one, its humour, okay? If you don't like it - silly humour, be my guest. It was a reference to Lynch's movie
@@MickAshMetalMan sorry, I didn't want to come out as angry or nothing, I was genuinely curious about what you meant because my mind immediately went to Thufir Hawat's hair. And I meant the HE as in, aren't Bene Gesserit women only? Paul being the exception, and even then, he's technically not a Bene Gesserit. Sorry if I sounded confrontational, I'll refresh my memory on how the Bene Gesserit looked on the Lynch movie
@@MickAshMetalMan aight, I looked it up and that was a genius reference. I remembered the baldness but not the "crown", I tip my hat to thee on thoust vastness of knowledge and referential humour. Once again, I'm not being a Richard, I'm genuinely complimenting you and apologising.
Man, I love shows that aren't just skin deep. This moment, even if a bit corny, shows the DEVELOPMENT of a relationship between two characters. Not a romantic one. Not a 'you killed my family' one. Friendship, the most common one. The characters in this show aren't static stereotypes, they shift and move in response to the chaotic world they live in.
Thank you. Time is telling us that the show was well done. Mistakes and ouches, sure but overall a gem.
Agreed. The characters' evolution on the show was phenomenal. When I first saw the series it was in its original run, and I came in mid-season 2, either right before or right after Londo made the deal. It was only years later did I get a chance to see season 1, and the very different places Londo and G'Kar started from. Just amazing. (My roommate hadn't seen any of it yet, so any time the Londo-G'Kar conflict came up in the first season, I had to bite my tongue to keep from giving things away.)
@@eledhwenmare2403And there are chunks of it that have aged depressingly-well, given the context. But so much of it still holds up on a fundamental level.
I would have LOVED if he said. "It turns out she was an assassin who had placed nuerogenic poison on her lips! Now I survived, after 16 days in a coma but my point is! It can't be that bad! We're still friends if you must know?" I liked the merry thing...but they should have done that.
Don’t quit yr day job
Well, he married her, so it turned out worse than neurogenic poison...
@@TomFynn He also went wrath of god on the man responsible for her murder.
@@calvingreene90 He really left that man no hiding place.
@@GlazeonthewickeR Probably true, I learned a long time ago one shouldn't debate fiction! ;)
B5 was unique.. pretty much every episode is burnt into my psyche... what an incredible show. It can't be thaaaat baaad.
I miss that series...
rip mel gibson :/
WHAT
@@Kanycmka both parts were played by mel gibson
@@sk31370nyou mean three parts, he also played the waitress in this scene. It's a shame the show didn't get enough budget for more actors.
mah wiiiife
Thank God I haven't watched TV for years.
Why couldn't Londo have stayed this merry boisterous fellow instead of all those terrible things which ended up happening to him? He was so much fun in the early part of the series. We all have our share of trouble so for there to be a laughing old rogue around to cheer us up means the world.
A lot of bad things happened to him, à lot he also chose to commit. His character arc shows how even a "normal" funny fellow can becole a full fledged villain in the right circumstances (and have his redemption arc also).
Because all actions have consequences, and the road to hell is paved with good intentions. It's a tragic downfall, because his heart, mostly, is in the right place, and it shows how arduous the road back from the edge can be.
Because he had to be what he was for the story to unfold as it must.
@@ghandimauler sure but it's quality storytelling. He is not coerced into becoming a monster, he doesn't have a tragic backstory like dark vador or many other villains. He is a funny character with some character flaws that we gloss over at first and also some qualities that make him endeering. At first he is even in his right, responding to unprovoked narn attack, you can take his side (and g'kar is quite ruthless as far as antagonists go). Yet these same character traits that we like (patriotism, acting to defend his people against the narns, à little bit of cunning ambition...) will lead him toward a path of pure evil (war crimes and then state crimes in occupied territory borderibg on genocide). That is excellent writing. The way the same actor can portray both the funny, carefree londo of the beginning, the warmongering yet haunted by his crimes londo of the middle seasons and the wise, redeemed, dying leader post war of shadows is also remarkable. You can criticize modern television butceven back then, you wouldn't get such performances very often.
@@thomasfevre9515Very well-put. Also, I'm not sure we'll ever see a pair of actors so perfect for sparring with each other as Peter Jurasik and Andreas Katsulas (RIP) could, even while both characters underwent substantial growth and development.
Londo always made me laugh... He was usually the most honest character in the show, next to G'Kar... Of the two, not sure which i liked better. I miss good character development...
How can you pick one when they were so good playing off each other?
The chemistry of G’kar and Londo never tires me, their relationships are complex and run all the spectrum between mortal enemies to best friends in uneven order throughout the whole show.
@@Xottapchenko Their friendship is based in the familiarity and understanding that only long time rivals have. It's great writing. I do love how each of the nations is complex, rather than just being all about a token aspect of culture like in Star Trek.