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Hi, The 509x is brighter. Not in a bad way, but the 509z is definitely smoother and more enjoyable for long listening, having said that I ever got listening fatigue from the 509x. Sound signature of the 509z is better in tonality, sound stage, and has a touch of warmth that the 509x doesn't have. As for the Class A 590axii.... It's been years since I heard it and can't do justice comparing it to the 509z. What I can say is that it drove Sopras with ease when I compared it to a McIntosh amp at the time. I definitely preferred the 590axii sound signature. I can recall that even though the 590axii was warm and rich, it didn't at all struggle with detail. The 509x has more detail but isn't warm. The 590axiii is very good and it ultimately would come down to what you like.

@@LuxAudio389 Thank you for your reply. It's good that the 509z went towards slightly warming it up and softening the sound. I've heard opinions that the 509x is an excellent amplifier, but with a poorly selected rest of the track it could be a bit tiring during longer listening sessions. How the 509z performs is purely utilitarian. Cy doesn't get too hot, how does the volume control work, etc.?

Unfortunately nothing recently. Maybe 7 yrs ago with Sonus Faber, but a lot has changed since then.

Hi, First off congratulations on your purchase! Yeah you're right. When I made the review it was still in the burn in period. It gets better after about 2-3months. At first right out of the box I could definitely hear that it was better than the 509x, but as it burns in the sound stage dramaticcally improves. The best way that I can describe it after its burn in period, is that sound literally seems to appear from around the speakers. On some tracks like Issac Hayes: Do Your Thing -remastered edition 16 bit 44.1 khz FLAC on Tidal, there is what I can describe as a guitar effect that verbirates at the very beginning and throughout the track, but that effect wraps around to the left of my ear and it creates what I guess is a phantom surround effect. The bass also greatly improves as it burns in. The concerning thing during the first month while it's burning in is that the sound almost gets flat in some areas and you can still hear its signature of tonality, but it makes you question what is going on and what changed. But its character greatly improves afterwards. Honestly I've been tired of chasing after Hi-Fi gear for the pleasure of hearing music the way I do now- for most of my life until now with the 509z and my current set-up, and now I'm finally done. It checks all my boxesand I always can discover new music without getting aclimated to its sound. As silly as this may sound it has taught me new concepts or put into context the many reviews and terminology that I've read about but never really understood. I still may not be able to write or talk about what the professional reviewers express, but it definitely has surpassed my expectations. I can safely say this because I have owned many iterations of my current system with the foundation of my Sopras, plus the 509x with all the same ancillary pieces and never have I heard it do this well or felt this good and proud of my system. The same oh WOW moments are also noticed by my non audiophile friends and family that visit. 😀

@@LuxAudio389 Hi. Thanks for replying and again, for the well written , well said, long term update on the 509z. Our (my wife and myself) decision to purchase and go with the 509z pretty much blindly was based on your review.😄. You described the amp and its’ sound reproduction so eloquently that we seriously bought the 509z based on it. I was completely happy with the Pass labs even though I know there’s always something better out there but it was my wife (who is even a nuttier audiophile than I am) who caught the upgrade bug. There was always something about the sound that she was after that she felt she was missing with our set up at that time (Pass plus Persona 3F). I made a list of potential amps and speakers we would want to try out and audition but none of our local dealers had the 509z out for demo. We did hear how the 509x sounded and it was pretty impressive. And we then auditioned it with the KEF REF 5 Meta and that caught my wife’s attention. I’ve tried searching for more online reviews on the 509z before I put in the order but unfortunately, there weren’t much around that time. There was a couple on print but sometimes the professional reviews get a bit too technical in terms of their description. It’s almost not a real world review and merely just trying to be poetic and editorial. I used to be captivated by that but having had my own decent system for awhile , i want a more real world feedback. Not something that’s almost patronizing. Until I came across your review. I knew, somehow, with the way you described the 509z’s sound character and what it was doing to you in terms of connecting emotionally , that it was what my wife and myself are looking for and maybe missing with the Pass and Persona, I forwarded your review to her and she immediately gave me the “go” signal. This was a blind purchase that we’re truly proud of and we are so grateful from your very eloquent yet real world, honest description of the 509z. How you described it is exactly what we’re hearing. So thank you very much. Seriously. From the bottom of our hearts:). We, too, have come to a point where we’ think we’ve reached our own personal audio bliss and nirvana that contentment is finally settling in. I have heard from 2 other owners of the 509z about the first month (or maybe 300 hours plus) of sound signature pain 😁(flat, lacking bass, bright, etc) and then opening up again and even improving for the better (or best) afterwards. Not to say I’m looking forward to it but more of preparing ourselves for when that day comes. My wife and I just swore to ourselves we will push through 😀. Again. Thanks for helping us with our decision and also for taking time to reply. We do appreciate it. Enjoy your system. You have an amazing set up.

​@@yotnit1170WOW thanks for sharing your experiences. It's fantastic that you and your wife share the same passion! I'm definitely glad I could help and MOST importantly that I accurately told it's story, is bonafide and not just fluffy. Lol

Thanks for the clarification regarding the PASS. I was seriously looking at the INT60.

hello, I also used Luxman Ll-550AXII and L-590AXII, then I switched to pass int-60 because I liked its sound more, if we compare, Luxman L-590z produces 120 watts of power at 8 ohms, has a 600 watt power transformer, 80,000 microfarad capacitor power reserve and 16 output transistors, Pass labs in-60 has 8 ohms 60 watts (first 30 watts Class A), 1000 watts of power transformer, 240,000 microfarad capacitor power reserve and 40 output transistors, in my opinion, Luxman is a very good amplifier for short listenings with much finer details, but I can say that pass labs is a much better amplifier for long listenings, of course these are my opinions and ideas

The 509z is the Pinnacle. The gold peeled circuit boards and LIFES technology is used separately in both the preamp and amplifier sections are nice to have. It also has a better power supply which in my case helps with the Sopra No 3 overall, but mostly in the bass. They're both expensive, but the 507z is a also an excellent choice if your speakers aren't hard to drive or demanding. Below is a review from Stereophile www.stereophile.com/content/luxman-l-509z-integrated-amplifier

@@LuxAudio389 Thanks so much, think I'll go for the 509!

Honestly I don't know. I haven't used either of the headphone jacks.

Yes I'm definitely still running the 509z on my Sopra No 3's. As far as my opinion: I like the Luxman sound. The 509z with my other gear makes it so the sound comes from around the Sopras. I've heard McIntosh with the Sopras and it was too warm for me. I think Luxman has better tonality and dynamics. Even with their 590axii which pure Class A and is warmer, it still is more dynamic. The power or current delivery of Luxman is nothing to take lightly. I've heard the 590 axii which is 30 watts Class A easily out perform McIntosh on the Sopras. But it all comes down to taste. Both are great brands that perform with different speakers. Both are extremely well built.

I love the look of the 595ASE. Very tactile piece with the proper vintage look and fantastic Class A performance. Simply stunning.

I'm not familiar with those DACs, but I can say I have no regrets with the D-10x as a DAC or with CD playback coupled with the 509z or with my previous 509x. Maybe this helps ruclips.net/video/gZgwPXOn0No/видео.htmlsi=FJOVF9uc1bXoQQ29

Sorry, but I'm not familiar with those models. You definitely need to hear them both with your speakers and music. Here is a link by Stereophile that may guide you. www.stereophile.com/content/luxman-l-509z-integrated-amplifier

Thank for spending your valuable time pointing me in the right direction. I have accessed the link, which really goes into detail. Thank you so much

Sorry I don't.

You are very lucky to be able to audition both Luxman and Accuphase at the same time! You may be surprised and find value in either of them if they exceed your expectations. Please share the models, speakers, sources, music, and your thoughts. If you'd like I'll pin your your experience 👍

@@LuxAudio389 well the accuphase is warmer in my opinion

@@LuxAudio389I listened to the Accuphase 5000 a few days ago on Audiovector R3 Arette floorstanders. Sounded beautiful to my ears. I actually forgot at the time to ask to listen to the Luxman but I intend returning in a few days to let him know my decision on the speakers, I think I will get them. My only issue with the Accuphase is in the unlikely event it needs servicing it needs to be trucked to the other side of my country, about 6,000 kilometres return trip. The Accuphase have such a great reliability reputation that I might be able to overlook that big negative. I think Luxman can be serviced in my city. I will ask to audition this Luxman for that reason, if it’s not too bright and busy sounding then it might be the more wise choice. It lacks some features that the Accuphase has including the DAC board but it does have mid tone control which is nice.

Thanks you'll never grow tired of the 509z. It always impresses. I had tte D-03X before the D-10X. It's also a good unit.

Hi, Physically the D-10X has 3 inputs (USB, Optical, and Coax) for accessing it's internal DAC. As for its sampling rate, that depends on what your streamer outputs or what your streaming service offers.I use Tidal Max so it automatically switches the sampling rate and if applicable decodes MQA. My streamer also allows up sampling, but I don't use that feature. As far as performance, the D-10X is phenomenal and very smooth, but what you get out of it depends on your streamer and what your goals are. My goal was to have streaming sound as good as CDs sound on the D-10X. I've heard DAC's with Sabre, AKM, and Texas Instruments and they're good but nothing like what's been done with the ROHM chipset in the D-10X. In my experience I started with a Blue Sound Node going to the D-10X and it never sounded as good as what the D-10X does with CDs. I was from the thought that digital was digital and quickly learned I was wrong. In order to get a great performance out of it I had to find something that was as electronically quiet as the D-10x and had a low jitter. I stumbled into an Aurender A30 that was priced way below it's value. I told my dealer about it and he said, "why did you do that?" I said because it's one of the best. Nope. It is if you need a DAC, preamp, ripper, streamer, and headphone amp. It sounded good, but still not as great as playing a CD on the D-10X on its own or through the D-10X. I talked to my dealer and Aurender and they told me a better match was the N20 and it was. It is electronically quieter and has a better clock. My goal was met when I bought it. So it depens what you want. Most of my music comes from streaming. I also have a good amount of CDs. Now most of my CD purchases come from artists I discover through streaming. I hope this helps.

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It's the same on the 509x. The D-10X also has a relay when it changes sampling rates.

Mcintosh puts the warm veil on Sopra from listening.

Hi, There is no internal DAC option for the 509z.

Yeah your Revel definitely need more power in order to perform-especially with orchestral music.

@@LuxAudio389 Ha-ha! A good amp delievers ! If you believe that a special amp is needed for classical music,you are more stupid than i thought

Lol yeah it definitely looks old fashion. Initially when I really got into the hobby looking for better gear, I didn't like how it looked. But its sound grew on me and no matter what I listened to or bought, in the end the others never came close to what it could do. Luxman has an appealing signature sound. As for Accuphase, that's one I haven't heard, but their look in my eyes ls worse by a factor of 10. Lol