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Slivers rule i had the queen the mutant and the overlord all in one deck...... and then I forgot it at my grandma's house 😢

Strictly better magic said sub, so i sub

This seems like an interesting topic for a video but there’s just way too much inside baseball for me to follow any of it. Shame.

TL;DR bro built the old times equivalent of 36 artifact creatures that don't die to Cut Down

is this really such a crazy play? opening hand has 2 chalice the obvious target mana costs for blocking affinity are 0 and 1... I feel like this is just the play you should make and not some crazy Nassif brain play.... Nassif is an amazing player but this doesn't feel to me like such an amazing play. I would argue this is more a stark misplay than a nassif smart play

When all the "elites" and "pros" deny a strategy that is so obviously good, there not pro's but just meta sheeps.

I think a video on the infamous bonfire of the damned flip at the 1st World Magic Cup would be a fun one to cover.

Man, you lost me like 10 times during this short video. You only briefly mentioned what the problem was and you kept jumping from one tournament to the next, to yet another one mentioning like 10 different things as you went. That might be fine for people already proficient in MtG but for newbies like me it was impossible to follow or understand what you were talking about. In videos like these I expect explanation of the issues being discussed in simple terms so that everyone can follow.

Had no idea he was still doing that

i was pretty happy with this one 😸

7 min in and still waiting for the history lesson to end and the title content to begin...

awesome video

What a sneaky Flaming Lips reference in there

this is the 2nd time ive learned about a tournament being won by what is effectively a topdeck control, is this the secret greatest meta?

As someone who knows next to nothing about Magic (but is enamored by the rich history the game has), this video was amazing. You did an exceptional job explaining the meta of the time in a digestible way.

Blue got so much love in the early days of Magic. Blue has always been over powered. I'm glad the other colors have finally caught up power wise. I'm just salty and hate blue because they don't let you do anything and WOTC was really bad about making card to directly beat it.

The intro to this video was SO well written and performed. I was hooked to watch from the beginning, even though I don’t really play or watch MTG anymore. Thanks for a great video and retrospective PastryTime!

friendly reminder for everone that counterbalance top was alo standard legeal for a while

I think besides this, 2002 was the craziest meta breaking year in mtg.

I absolutely love the orb of creation music.

I played in a beta mox emerald tournament at a local store decades ago and a friend handed me flash hulk with zero experience. Ended up splitting with LSV in the finals.

Man im old

Also I have to say that the PTQ where Jace/Gideon bird deck dominated is EASILY the worst ptq of all time, worst era of magic the gathering of all time (added infect introduction helped solidify that) and the only time where I wanted to flip the table and demand a refund it had something like a 78% winrate and the ONLY reason it wasnt as "popular" as other decks in the ptq is because the deck cost 100s of dollars and most players didnt want to or couldnt drop 400 bucks on a deck, even the prize for 1st place in the ptq was worth less than the cost of the deck if I remember rightly 100% pay to win deck, the most disgusting time in MTG history, hundreds of thousands of loyal players who had spent thousands on their collection over the years stopped playing the game altogether because of it wizards did absolutely jack sht to resolve it there was no fun whatsoever playing against it, if you didnt use gideon and jace you were playing gray ogres against replenish there was even a broken mechanic in the set, infect, that outraged many people because of the inability to remove poison counters, but this deck even with the perfect starting hand would stand no chance against the planeswalkers the other deck aside from janky precursor golem control was mono red koth which was very strong but again looked like a starter deck when facing jace gideon birds Lin Sivvi was so much friendlier

the legend rule where both copies would die was perfect, when they changed it to what it is nowadays it basically enabled people to use planeswalkers again and again on the same turn ruining the "drawback" of the legendary tag being able to remove a powerful legend from the board by casting its duplicate was a great dynamic, it gave the legendary tag an actual drawback as well as an extra use mercadian masques is when I discovered MTG and it was when the game was still nicely balanced concerning creatures, it was very accessible to learn and play and want to discover the rest of the MTG cardpool of past sets and future ones todays powercreeped version is utter garbage compared like a flash game that had been sold out to the chinese market

I can understand why you wouldn't want to say the Goblin player is Owen Turtenwald by name. I have no idea how you can tell this story without, at minimum, actually saying the Goblin player is any of a Hall of Famer, 2x Player of the Year, 5 PT Top 8, and 5 GP wins. It takes a lot away from what Sadin accomplished. Owen did some henious shit, but even WotC hasn't removed his accomplishment from the record books.

he explains how his line doesnt work vs the goblins but how does it actually work? i cant wrap my brain around it.

those events sound like NOT fun at all

I love that philosophy of his sideboard, transforming from a scary combo deck into an okay tempo deck. If this situation were a fantasy medieval dual it's literally just: 1. Begin casting powerful spell 2. Enemy, who expected your powerful spell, begins casting powerful counterspell 3. Stop casting spell, grab sword 4. Stab stupid enemy for casting powerful spell.

These videos are so cool and interesting to watch.

Great video :)

Man this was one of the best times to play two headed draft. The las vegas tournament I went to got so heated in a decision a player punched the judge! He was banned instantly lol

Counterbalance + Top is a key component of my heavy control decks, it's brutal in any format.

PT Flash was insane, I think you said his name, but the guy that top 8ed, running mono-black hate with Leylines said in an interview "don't ever build or play my list, I won't." Because it was designed only to beat Flash. Smart guy.

5:10 Its 7 mana, not 8 mana chunker.

Froggy fresh

Why does 2007 look like the 1990s?

Wait did they print "Leyline of the void" as a direct counter to this deck archetype?

You're a Gtand Pricks.

Grand Prix were the best.

i got 47 seconds in tho this video and i was like wait.......is that pastry time?.......naghh surly not. click the channel and holy fuck its pastry time! hahaha

Remember when Magic was actually Magic? You know before Commander came in like the Kool-Aid man and ruined everything. Man, good times.

What a great video about someone that has never played versus or against Flash. If you did you wouldn't waste any time hyping up shit decks that weren't good against Flash at all. Flash was uber broken and someone that had never even played the deck was even able to win with it. I'm sure there are other formats that you can play with deck that you can win with even if you have an extra chromosome. Wait, lmao that's not true. Just kill me.

Between GPs not being a thing anymore and them changing how damage distribution works to be similar to how it was way back in the day I feel super old now

Yeah for some reason I thought the flash hulk combo line was kiki target karmic guide, sack karmic guide in response to kiki targeting guide too. Haven't played magic for quite a few years though so I forgot the ability could be countered for lack of a legal target on resolution. Body snatcher was there just in case you drew guide and/or kiki so it was the best insurance, even better than running 2 copies of guide and kiki since you could draw both copies of one hypothetically and they're straight bricks. Amusingly both being 5 cost could matter for countertop to stop a force of will from the opponent. I was shocked when I learned about gp flash though and most legacy players wrote to WotC begging them to ban flash after they removed the powerlevel errata on it since it is a truly stupid card. 1U, win the game not very balanced. They couldn't even run the future sight pact cards in the tournament to have more free countermagic to back up the combo and zero mana protean hulk tutors that could also be fetched with mystical tutor. Glad they got rid of powerlevel errata since it was dumb to do with stuff like time vault going through so many iterations before they just said eff it, skip a turn to untap it and you can untap it with voltaic key or anything else that untaps artifacts. Flash with powerlevel errata was unplayable trash since you got no enter the battlefield or die triggers/another card in the bulk bin to be forgotten if the errata wasn't removed.

Who is the guy at 1:44? I used to play against him in my area. Why is he called out as being an amateur?

Super engaging video, I always enjoy your mini-documentary videos, I think my only criticism is that you repeat yourself a bit too much at times. Looking forward to future videos 👍

My best friend and MTG buddies were going to go to this tournament. Then flash happened and we all could only find three of them between the four of us. Even some of the worse builds we just found oppressive and we decided to sit this one out.