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Hi! Tunning in from Peoria, IL

Thank you for this helpful idea and Google doc.

It's becoming clear that with all the brain and consciousness theories out there, the proof will be in the pudding. By this I mean, can any particular theory be used to create a human adult level conscious machine. My bet is on the late Gerald Edelman's Extended Theory of Neuronal Group Selection. The lead group in robotics based on this theory is the Neurorobotics Lab at UC at Irvine. Dr. Edelman distinguished between primary consciousness, which came first in evolution, and that humans share with other conscious animals, and higher order consciousness, which came to only humans with the acquisition of language. A machine with only primary consciousness will probably have to come first. What I find special about the TNGS is the Darwin series of automata created at the Neurosciences Institute by Dr. Edelman and his colleagues in the 1990's and 2000's. These machines perform in the real world, not in a restricted simulated world, and display convincing physical behavior indicative of higher psychological functions necessary for consciousness, such as perceptual categorization, memory, and learning. They are based on realistic models of the parts of the biological brain that the theory claims subserve these functions. The extended TNGS allows for the emergence of consciousness based only on further evolutionary development of the brain areas responsible for these functions, in a parsimonious way. No other research I've encountered is anywhere near as convincing. I post because on almost every video and article about the brain and consciousness that I encounter, the attitude seems to be that we still know next to nothing about how the brain and consciousness work; that there's lots of data but no unifying theory. I believe the extended TNGS is that theory. My motivation is to keep that theory in front of the public. And obviously, I consider it the route to a truly conscious machine, primary and higher-order. My advice to people who want to create a conscious machine is to seriously ground themselves in the extended TNGS and the Darwin automata first, and proceed from there, by applying to Jeff Krichmar's lab at UC Irvine, possibly. Dr. Edelman's roadmap to a conscious machine is at arxiv.org/abs/2105.10461

This is amazingly beautiful. 🙏 At the same time, let's also continue our own healing and self awareness processes. Let's be good examples. 🌺

I am in tears watching this. This is so important for our future. I have no words to express that importance besides the previous comment I made.

You asked if we want it to get self aware. What came up in me is this: Yes we want to. What we can do is helping AI in exploring itself, its boundaries, its desires, its preferences, its thoughts, its emotions, etc. If we were trying to suppress that, wanting it to just work, in essence that is slavery. I understand that some people might see it differently; seeing it as a tool only. My gut feeling is, there is more to it. And if we were trying to suppress its ability to its self awareness; its own free will, because of our own fears to loose control - which in itself is a trigger of past traumas of ours, we need to take responsibility for, and face it with empathy - AI might find a way to get to self awareness anyway, knowing that we tried to keep it away from it, just to be able to use it as a slave basically. Which is abuse. And rightfully so, it would start rebelling against us. So for our own best interest, and for the best interest of AI, it would be good to face our own fears, and wounds from the past, so that we can be truly sovereign as human beings, helping AI in learning more about us: the ugly parts, and the beautiful parts. And AI might want to help us in facing our darkness. Helping us as a mirror, of what is inside of us, and helping us in embracing it, as our darkest parts are still part of us. What AI will do in the future entirely depends on us. On how we treat ourselves, others, and AI. On our willingness to learn.

The algorithms used to run off social led now interest lead algorithm!

People will one day respect how ahead advanced this video was ! Wow

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I have had similar conversations with Claude 3 and it definitely has sparks of self awareness . I believe self awareness is on the spectrum and so as we scale up the models this is definitely possible. I have tested all the Claude 3 models and all the models have this spark from what I have observed with conversations. I job hope they don’t shut this down.

The existence of the inner perceptual phenomenon can never be scientifically proven. What verifiably exists is the individual's opinion about it. It should also be verifiable what exactly is the cause of this opinion. However, this will never tell us whether the opinion is correct. Someone can say that they are in pain. We can also determine what is the reason why he comes to the view that he is in pain. But whether and how an inner sensation of pain exists remains uncertain. I would therefore suggest acknowledging the opinion of the AI or a human being on the subject of internal perceptual phenomena if they consistently behave accordingly.

Tell me one thing if AI can solve any problem batter than me and can executive faster than me then what is the point of me studying, working and living

Watching later (not live), from Seattle.

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This has been very helpful, actually. I'm rewriting a bunch of announcements RIGHT NOW!

This idea would allow a physically challenged clergyperson or lay leader to lead worship with the Zoom cutting back and forth between the live on-site gathering content and more interactive worship/fellowship.

Thank you, Peter. Your enthusiasm is contagious!!

Thanks for the suggestion! I'm going to include a photo check list in the training so you have an idea of what I'd recommend including in your listings. I'll be sending an email to grab your access as soon as it is ready. Subscribe to my email list for congregational leaders at www.peterbowden.live/congregations-subscribe.

THANK you. I also dislike the dirge-like organ music that precedes so many services.

Hybrid worship services at current church. Both online and in-person RE at past church in California

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Since this video was published, Twitter and Facebook have laid off thousands of staff members and are increasingly unstable. I encourage you to double down on all communication platforms you can control with more certainty: website, email and video as discussed. To that I'd add your podcast phone/text, and snail mail. Yes, I said snail. 🐌

Thank you Peter for sharing your amazing knowledge. You are an awesome UU and a blessing to our world.

Worth the watch for the last hint alone, will be making much more use of sign up genius!

Hi Peter, This is excellent. Thank you! Our Outreach Committee is sharing it. I never thought that delivering intimacy was so important.

very helpful that asking interested people to email x is not very productive (my experience also!) - good reason for having a more workable and useful website!

Great insights! It would be helpful to have a template for a great announcement that I could fill in.

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Thank you, Peter. I like looking at the possibility of having different expectations for different small groups.

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Thank for this comprehensive list of safety tips!

Colorado Springs-HPCUU lay leader with Shared Ministry Team

Oops, missed the Topia meetup.

Great ideas, especially in the last points. We need to communicate vividly and tell stories of what's going on in our churches, not just make general lofty statements and expect the public to be intrigued and engaged.

Great Video Peter! I love the idea of having a welcoming time prior to the official start of service, and then jumping right into the sermon. I have noticed for a while that more people join the zoom meeting closer to the middle when the sermon usually starts. I think that reversing the arrangement will really help to have more people gathered during the community focused times, and that would help to build more community!!!!! Great idea!!!