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You didn't mention Jewish people in Israel. Mental!

Chris, I’m so sorry to hear about your brother who died in Iraq. My dad, who graduated from the Vietnamese National Military Academy at Da Lat in 1974, made a suggestion that I should enlist and fight in Iraq. Good thing I never listen to him. I was more interested in making money.

Wow, that is a big disclosure for your dad before he reaching 100 and see his dad in the other world.

Interesting topic! Keep up the good work!

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Hhhmmm… to refine the self… to revisit the fundamentals.

I’ve seen a lot of RT videos. They are very well done. Action is amazing. Wanted a hat for the longest time. “What does it mean to be Vietnamese to you?” That’s a good question. Very deep. Some very interesting philosophical discussions. The salt in broth makes the soup exquisite. But the base must still the boring soup. The slow and meticulous brew of knowledge and experience. …to define the self.

Wow did not know Vietnamese German born has the chinese english accent.

because of Israel

You have no moral compass girl. Only one group is experiencing land theft, displacement and mass slaughter… and this has been going on for over 76 years.

Hi anh Kenneth, as a Vietnamese living in Vietnam, specifically in Saigon. I just want to say that I learnt a lot from these podcasts, a lot of young people in Vietnam nowadays are getting more exposure to international content and understand much more about democracy or other kind of constitution and philosophy than their parents. However the way we study in school and the way the society is in Vietnam prevent us to have debates, think critically, and make voices to things that matter to us just like Confucious philosophy, you just do not speak up to those above you. When I was in college, I had to learn a lot about Marx and Engels ideology, and nobody else's and the funny thing is that our economy is considered as a free economy by the US, which is the complete opposite of their philosophy. Do we have thinkers nowadays? we probably do, but whenever there are some opinions, they either go to jail or being teared apart by the communist thinkers. That's why many young people are seeking their ways out of the country, including me.

Can you give an example of Jewish Americans being targeted? I know Zionists are catching hell, but that's totally different.

how about some were made else where but labeled made in vn.

What you are doing is great. I’m a supporter.

Once you find common sense and look at the Democratic Party, how disgusting it is you will leave it too

Rogan did not switch for money he switched because the democrats went so far to the left , the cancel culture, the sex change of kids changing from boys to girls nonsense, the censorship from the media, the Legacy media constantly lying on stupid narrative, do you guys really believe Trump is Nazi propaganda crap. we all know his not, the Democratic Party is so disgusting all they want it control

K, you walking down the hall to the kitchen, T bumps into you and distracts your thoughts. When presented with the option of a salad or a donut, you may have picked the donut. How then can I expect others to choose the constructive option.

Most Vietnamese here in the US are still not considered as "rich", including myself. I am a middle class who still is depending on the affordable care for my family. And i know many Vietnamese who are voting for Trump also using Obama care. So how can you bite the hand that feed you? Trump, for years has tried to terminate this Healthcare. Let's not pretending that trump's policies will be better than the others. Let's not pretending that we are an expert in politics. I have been here seen 1978 and have voted for both parties. There is no perfect president. But with this latest election, I put aside all the things about policy. I believed this is a Moral and Characters election. For every Vietnamese who's supporting Trump, would you be comfortable to have a convicted felon as your neighbor?, let alone being the president of the United States. Your heads are twisted and you will see what's coming. Becareful what you wished for.

@thaohaphd you are more qualified than Ms Harris. You can articulate authentically and I’m getting to know who you are and what you stand for. Maybe when you are in her position, you got your tongue, hangs, body tense up and can’t say a thing. That’s how she was and it proves she is not up for the job.

Progressive was hurting Democrat in this election. Democrat is kidnapped by progressive.

You guys still don’t get it, what happened is simple common sense once you find it you’ll figure it out.

Some helpful answers to how to interact and understand MAGA acquaintances can be found in Stephan J. Ducat's book “Hatreds We Love: The Psychology of Political Tribalism in Post-Truth America" It doesn't really address the historical experience of Vietnamese escapees from communism. But it does provide an explanation of those U.S. born MAGA folks' psychology. From an interview with Ducat: "While the psychology of MAGA conservatives can’t be turned off, it may be possible to redirect it to different ends. In the book's final chapter, I show how bridges might be built between the moral intuitions of conservatives (purity, loyalty and sanctity) and those of liberals (fairness, equity and care). If those on the Left can present their concerns in the moral metaphors of the Right, addressing conditions that affect us all, like the rapidly worsening climate emergency, may be possible." I really think you'll find this book helpful in addressing some of the issues discussed in your podcast.

Sorry for overloading your comments, but the podcast is pretty long, and you cover lots of issues. Ducat on MAGA masculinity: "One iteration of this authoritarian state of mind is something we could call fascist masculinity. For men, dominating, subduing, and banishing the aspects of oneself construed as feminine, such as empathy, tenderness, compassion, and caretaking, is perfectly congruent with the subjugation of women in the world. If those traits are devalued in oneself, it only makes sense to devalue those who seem to be the “natural” embodiment of such qualities. The notion of manhood as dominant, hard, straight, high status, and purged of tender “feminine” traits is what researchers label “hegemonic.” It is held by women and men and is more predictive of support for Trump than partisan identity, sex, race, or education. It is also highly associated with racism, homophobia, sexism, and anti-immigrant attitudes. This species of masculinity has long been a feature of fascist identity, from Mussolini’s army of thugs to the proto-Nazi soldiers of Weimar Germany who would go on to serve Hitler. As we can all observe, it is now a central feature of the men who comprise the MAGA manosphere and the trad wives who revere them."

17 mins into the podcast and this guy sounded exactly like what I've been hearing from the old VNCH gang. Nothing new. So much disinformations and it started with the top 2 most well known figures in Vietnam (HCM should be #1 on that 6 names list) Can't believe he tried to shame Vietnam for gotten invaded by the French. HCM tried different approaches with the French and later the Americans to prevent bloodshed but didn't work. Phan boi Chau and his ideas didn't work because the the Japanese and the French were on the same team (invaders) HCM was invited to join PBC movement but wisely declined because he knew what was going to happen. The only way to gain independence and I mean true independence (not like the Japanese, Korean, Philippines..) is to fight for it and the West didn't consider any alternatives. Stop with your 75 years propaganda the West is superior and the east is at faults and stupid. World history is way longer than the last 100 years and it's still being written. This is why you lost, stop looking at the world with the tainted lenses. Scratch that, you lost Because Vietnam defeated your masters.

This is another NPR platform run by Vietnamese Americans. This type of soft influence/propaganda is now prevalent in Orange County, Calif.

Can't wait for the book!! Where I can find Thao Ha's blog...so inspirational both of you. I can listen to you 2 talk all day

The Democratic party has changed. You are definitely not connected to your people. Those who are struggling are frustrated with the democratic policies. Living in southern california, many folks are fed up. Why do you kept on insulting Trump? Perhaps look at what went wrong w/ the existing system. Face the reality. The voters have spoken. They want change. It's not because they are too dumb to tell between lies and truths. You are talking down to the average voter as if you are better than them. Joe Rogan was a democrat and he got pushed out.

Can anyone name a single accomplishment of Kamala's? She was seen as the worst VP ever before becoming the Democratic candidate for the presidential election. Should a person who paid celebrities millions of dollars to endorse her be the president of the U.S.? Should a person who spent 1 billion dollars in 3 months on the campaign be the U.S. president? Kamala got the votes because: She is a woman. She is Black. She is a Democrat. People hate Trump for some reason. None of the above makes her qualified for the office of president.

Elite people talks!

You need a lot more to make this interesting and exciting. As it is, this is just you two commiserating the Democrats' massive loss.

democrats could have blame the inflation on Trump printing 5 trillions dollars for covid simulus and most of it went to big corps, and only big corps can operate, also the money the normal people got went into buying stuff from amazon and walmart because small businesses got shutdown, but no lets talk about abortion and diversity quotas

These two never experienced the communist regime

I had same feeling as yours about the vote result.

@45:00 - So agree-- important to always be testing our own biases and talking to people we care about regardless of their politics. Besides, politics usually is such a minor contributor to who people are as an individual. And: I voted Trump. Ultimately it came down to a better likelihood that he would end our involvement in foreign wars. Kamala was asked on Breakfast Club whether she would continue to fund wars or finally take care of people at home. The caller also said that her answer would determine who she'd vote for. Kamala said "we can do both", i.e. continue funding foreign wars while helping people domestically. I didn't believe her. Although Trump says mean things, his words don't kill like our bombs kill innocent people. I also didn't appreciate that encounters on our southern border soared as soon as Biden entered office. A country should have secure borders. It's not racist, which shouldn't even need to be mentioned. I also lost basically all my trust for Dems after COVID and BLM. It went from "you're a bad person and you'll kill grandma if you go outside" to "it's OK to riot (no, they're not - they're peaceful protests) because of systemic racism, nevermind about grandma and COVID". The Dem messaging contributed greatly to my depression for the 14 months that I isolated so that I could try to "stop the spread". I'll never again care so much about such things that I have little to no control.

These 2 refugees got away from Communism, coming to America and embrace Socialism. I don't get it.

Trump 2024 won.

The matter is not Republican or Democrat, it’s the leader to be chosen . He or she should be able to handle about economic , political…, Harris is lacking of all. No way can be trusted….

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The best way to reconcile between both sides is STOP demonizing Trump like "Trump is disaster, Trump says things stupid, people don't see, people don't wanna think". The media has already overdone that demonization on Trump everyday. Whoever got elected, pray for them to do the best job.

Walk like a duck, act like a duck ; It must be a duck..

It's not divisive, Trump won in a fucking landslide.

It is not about education or information. It is all about experience. You guys too young to experience such evil things that communism or socialism has been brought to Vietnamese people. You might never live under the evil regime so you can't understand it. I have an analogy that might help you guys understand why your parents voting for Republicans. Let say you have a very annoying neighbor who would take any opportunity to report you to police even though you do nothing wrong. What are you gonna do? Moving out is one of the options. You have a chance to move different neighbor. In the new neighborhood, you find out that there is another annoying neighbor who has the potential to cause harm to your family. Assuming in the new neighborhood, you have more freedom to protect yourself. You would stand up to for yourself to eliminate all potential harmful that would cause you troubles right? You know that you don't like that kind of annoying neighbor and can't live with it. You can't be friend with that person frankly. Democrats are leaning towards communism and socialism. Your parents are wise enough not to stand with them. One more thing, no matter who you are, please don't forget your root and why you end up here in the US.

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A conversation between two clluless idealists ... suicidal empathy. read the electorate this year. clueless

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Great convo. I used to be democratic and it really does blow my mind how much the party lost contract with every day people. I knew it would be a landlide once Elom, Tulsi and RFK left the party. The demo party isnt the same. They just shifted too much now that you guys even considered Joe Rogan a "right wing person "now . No he's been the same like all of us. The one side changed.

46:34 totally agree with you about Harris.

Keep up the good work, both of you. It's a great conversation. Just be you and don't change it for anyone. The truth will set you free!

Obama had a chance to bring us all together as a black President, But he divided us. He deported the most people, He was a war machine, and he spied on the people and press.And assassinated a American overseas. I would't even go into the madness of Benghazi and all the lies... Think about it Trump took a bullet or all of us...

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