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Hey thanks for your comment. Yes the library definitely has its best use cases, though I’ve found if you use the marcato patch coupled with the layered staccato overlay there built in then you can get a good result from faster passages too :)

I hadn’t used the old version btw, so this doesn’t seem to have any flaws. The only thing have found are the short articulations are very loose, which keeps the realism but makes it hard to programme tight sounding runs… I tend to layer a lot of them together to blur the shorts a bit which works great, but overall not ideal.

@@MediaManProductions No, no, it's already checked, marcato patch overlayed sucks. It's the flaw of the library...

Thank you so much!

Hey! Absolutely, it’s still my most used string library and it’s always used to give that added detail over other more full sounding libraries. I use them like a spot mic on each instrument in the section and that really adds what I often need. Thank you for your comment!

@@MediaManProductions Thank you for you reply! Have a nice day.

You too man. And it’s my pleasure!

I have both and I would recommend Studio Strings. You get way more for your money and even better Legato in my opinion.

Thank you Jerry. That’s really appreciated!

Hey, thank you so much for listening! Really glad oyu enjoyed the music. I actually dont try to get any of the libraries to sound like each other. they both have qualities that I prefer to accentuate. I hope that what comes forward in this video is more that each library has its strengths, and as part of those strengths they also have weaknesses. So as part of that concept, the best course is to use those strengths to add to the others shortcomings. For instance, BBCSO has a lovely full sound, that is quite detailed, but overall lacks detail in the intimate and nuanced area of legato and dynamic layers, but its strengths are its short articulations, smooth legato transitions and powerful bass section. Studio strings weaknesses are that the low end is more balanced, but weak in comparison, i does feel smaller because its in a smaller room, the legato is just a little inconsistent and it doesn't have any staccato's. Its strengths are that it has some good mic positions including first chairs, its incredibly detailed, it blends well, it has a huge dynamic range, its tight and is very punchy. so when you layer them they actually support each others weaknesses very well to create a sound that is better than the sum of their parts. this also means they create a sound that isnt like just one library on their own. it sounds more unique. These are also the reasons why BBCSO is a better library to layer with than say CSS because there are a lot of strengths that you would be doubling up on... and also the shorts in CSS aren't consistent so you'd get a blurred sound overall when mixing short articulations between both libraries. These are just things to consider, but i hope that this helps you decide and rationalise next time you try and layer these libraries, or any libraries :)

Hey Michael. I think this may just be you thet this is happening to. I’ve scored a few films since this review where I almost exclusively used the tremolo from this library for most scenes. I had no issues tbh. So maybe an uninstall and reinstall might fix the issue. Alternatively, if you are happy with fixing Kontakt issues you could open up the Kontakt instance and look for the trem file, try and work out how it’s being triggered and then try to fix the issue that way. If you got it wrong you could just uninstall anyways so it may be a fun (or frustrating) experience aha!

@@MediaManProductions My tremolo articulation is fine. It’s the ability to crossfade between vib and non vib through a held sustained note. Are we talking about the same thing?

​@@MediaManProductions I have found the issue. There is a scripting issue. The vibrato fader doesn't work correctly "out of the box." It only works correctly after you make your first custom mapping. If I load an instance of Violins 1 let's say, click on sustains and move the fader on a single note, you can't crossfade between vibrato and non-vibrato. As soon as I set up keyswitches in their custom map section (there are none by default) the fader then behaves correctly.

It’s on my list, stay tuned!!

Hey Think its called the brass pad synth. youll be able to check in the previous video where I wrote this track. TY!

It sure does. I was using them! ;)

@@MediaManProductions I was pointing this out because at 11:07 you say that Studio Strings doesn't have harmonic patches and for that reason you had to use the flautando patch instead ; )

Your very welcome! No, I’ll do this when I’ve finished the mix and other mastering cleanups that don’t include making it louder. I do occasionally mix with a soft limiter on though, just to tame a bit of the more exaggerated dynamics, plosives and transients,

ah ok thanks@@MediaManProductions

You can’t, though I would suggest just retriggering the note and altering the side room of your dynamics. That will still give a good effect. You can also layer in cinestrings solo which has pre baked re bows that sound very good. I’ll make a video on this soon I think. :) thank you for commenting. Great question!

@@MediaManProductions What does "side room of your dynamics" mean? Is that particular to Cinesamples?

Thank you for your comment, really happy you enjoyed :D

Thank you so much! That is so appreciated!

Thanks for the outline. Others will find this very useful.

Hey, thank you for your contribution. The overall output of each instrument was matched perfectly. This was the closest comparison I could do. This is also because in CSC and BBCSO they have a lot more sub information, so that makes things a little more jaded. But, you are right, perhaps in a future video I will solo the tracks so that they can be heard separately.

Hey! So it doesn’t have typical portamento, but you can slow the legato response down and that will give the same results.

@@MediaManProductions Thanks!

@@BryansRoom20 my pleasure:)

Hey Martin, thanks so much for your comment! Yes, I started with the studio core version. It’s really great. I think I had just used that library for about 3 years and it served me really well. I only upgraded to the pro version when my income covered it, otherwise the core would have been fine for me. The pro gives you access to the 1st chairs which I feel is really useful for even more added detail. I’m not sure if you always need that detail so I now swap between core and pro depending on what I’m actually trying to achieve. Studio strings as a whole is the Swiss Army knife of string libraries in my opinion. I can do whatever you throw at it, but it does need a little help with size from a wetter library sometimes. I would say it’s worth the upgrade, but not for the mic positions, but for the added extended techniques too. Only get if if you feel like you have use for those techniques as you can definitely live without them. It is for me at least my favourite sounding library out of these three. I hope that helps.

@@MediaManProductions That's great. Interesting to hear your views on SStS. I considered SCS when there was a 50% flash sale a year ago but decided it was just not right. I did not like the mid/low muddiness and a slightly unbalanced boomy sound to my ear, not helped by ambient AIR space. I went for the Core version of SStS which has a more open airy sound and closer to a drier sounding chamber string section. As you probably know, we have just had another 50% flash sale (two in fact :)) and I came to exactly the same conclusion after reconsidering. As a footnote, I have more or less decided to go for Light & Sound Chamber Strings. Half the price and it offers that dry crisp studio sound I am after with 7 mic settings and some interesting performance style articulations. I think Studio Strings will compliment it quite nicely and fill in a few gaps. They have re badged themselves as Incirios and are planning to launch their own free platform. Currently, the library requires the use of the paid full Kontakt sample player. You might find it interesting. Thanks for your comments.

@@MartinJG100 yeah I personallyvthunk studio is better than chamber but chamber has its uses. The flautando a are gorgeous in. Hammer strings is a lot of people tend to lean towards them when they buy that library. When looking for strings I rarely focus on the sound of the actual string section now tbh. Boo mines and the like can be easily EQ’d on a section bus so that’s never an issue as a lot of strings sound equally as great. I listen to first the room sound and then the articulation set and the dynamic range. Studio strings has been the only one to rock those boxes… but, performance samples and Audio Imperia have just collaborated on a chamber strings library that has 8 dynamic layers and is recorded in the same gap as the other Perf samples libraries… to me this could potentially be the best smaller ensemble library yet. But we will see.

@@MediaManProductions That's useful. Yes, I think there will be increasing focus on playability to the extent that key switching (which I hate and never use) and toggling switches is a thing of the past. More libraries are developing the 'performance legato' which is much more useful and intuitive. Thanks for the heads up on the new chamber strings collaboration.

No problem, it’s my pleasure. Consider joining the Discord too. Link in bio. I’m more available for lengthy chats on this stuff over there. :)

Man, so funny and relatable! And you are right. You probably don’t need it. I find 8dio are great but often their sounds are quite specific to certain use cases.

Thank you man! Really glad you got a lot out of it! ❤️

Your more than welcome mate. Thanks for the comment too! 🔥👌

Hey Gez! Thank you so much ❤️

Hey G! Thanks so much. Yes I hope that this saves some people a little money. Non are bad but if you can get cinestrings for as cheap as this then it’s s no brainer. :)

Thank you man! It feels good to be back after a few weeks off.

Many thanks Fred! ❤

Yeah my connectors ok. But I did have an issue with the power input being a bit loose and I was assured by SSL they would help fix it if anything went wrong. So I’d get in touch with them as they are very supportive! Thanks for commenting and I hope this was helpful!

@@MediaManProductions Thanks a bunch :) I contacted them and they said it was unusual. They are checking the 360 generated report I sent. Meanwhile I will request a replacement. Cheers

@@BesharALAzzawi amazing! Good luck. Keep us updated, I hope it’s sorted soon!

@@MediaManProductions thank you! SSL confirmed that the only problem was the loose connection. I’m exchanging the unit with the retailer

@@BesharALAzzawi great result man. So happy for you.

I’m not sure what your point is Martin?

Hey Walter, Thanks so much for commenting. ah yeah, i think the new update was a little bit of a step backwards, but its still a great console. I haven't had much use with the console 1 but i just didnt like it fro my own workflow at least. what hve been your experiences?

@@MediaManProductions As i own the C1 since some years, i am really quick on it. what i like is, that i do not have to load a different plugin into the daw to change componets like compressor or drive or shape/gate. That was really i big issue for me in uc1 - but i did i complete mix only with uc1 and it was a good experience, because i looked 80% less on the screen. - comparing the mixes with uc1 and c1 was quite the same, i liked my uc1 better in the lows and the c1 better in the highs - so far in short :)

@@waltertill1388 Ah, yeah i get that. I tend to drive the input as you seen here so that I can get the crunch. Then ill filter and use the EQ to tame anything I dont enjoy and re jig the output. :) We all have our workarounds though. I believe that SSL have seen that a lot want this though as they've included a saturation knob in the 4K which is very nice. It also sounds like you enjoy the same thing as me, the not looking at the screen aspect. its a game changer for a mixing engineer i think. yes, the UC1 does accentuate low end about .7 db i've found. not as much as you might expect, but over a full mix that's a fair amount... other than that its quite transparent.

Thank you so much man you rock!

Hey man thank you so much! Yes!! The UC1 rocks doesn’t it!! I hope you stay warm tonight. Sunny wales is exactly the same right now. 😅

Hey Chef Sound. thank you for commenting! Really glad that it was helpful to you. It is a great piece of hardware, If you are looking to improve your work flow and make it a bit more tactile you cant really go wrong. :)

Thank you so much Gez, and doubly thanks for being an amazing supporter of this channel!

😂 it’s ok mate, glad you got here eventually ;) haha!

Why thank you mate! Really appreciate you watching as always ❤️🤘

Hey Daniel. Thank you for your comment. I really appreciate you!

I 100% agree. Time saver and sound better in that application than any other library from spitfire! Thank you for your comment!

Thank you so much mate!

Thank you Stephane! yes, More coming soon! :)

Thank you! ah yes, it was an ode to a node... or something of the sort.

You are very welcome and thank you for commenting. This video was designed to show its shortcomings back when it first came out, which it did very well… though I didn’t do too well in articulating that this was its main purpose 😅 since this they did a great update to the library. I don’t think it’s any worse than any other library spitfire has done to be honest and core is very competitively priced for what you get. Even the pro is very cheap. To get just the studio series you are talking £1200 so it’s a £400 saving just there. I’ve just finished a feature length film using this library for the strings and woodwinds and some of the percussion. I did change the brass mostly, but it held up very well and had the tone I wanted. I still think the legato in BBCSO is the best spitfire has made. It does have shortcomings as this video shows, but overall it’s a solid library I think that just needs a bit of gentle persuasion sometimes. If you would like to see what I did with it in a real world senario then check out my score relief entry. I only used BBCSO for it and it came out very well. I did however avoid the bad things about the library which does help. But every library is the same, we have to find the good stuff in it! :) #Scorerelief2021 / Spring / Composition Entry / Geoff Evans ruclips.net/video/39LWMwWZX0c/видео.html

@@MediaManProductions Yep, really great legatos, for sure.

Thank Conrad ;) guessing you are one of the impatient people. Can I join, I think fit this description too! 😅