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Thank you for making this video. I feel like your demonstrations really helped me think about my row in a different way

I think it would have been helpful to describe exactly what the “lats” are.

Very interesting! I'm gonna take a look at my past throws and try to see if I do this or not. Maybe this will get me to hit 70+ reliably? If i do, I'll update this thread after i recover from this pesky finger injury Thanks for posting your thoughts!

Good stuff Jonathan! This goes well with my "Truth About the Arm - Pulling vs Slinging" vid.

Thanks for the video. It seems that you are attempting to create a full motion throwing technique rather than just tips to make a better throw. One question I have is when do you start to feel engagement of your lats. Is it at the very beginning of your throw at the time of reach back or is it later when you start to bring the disc forward? If it is later when you start to bring the disc forward, does the intensity of the lats contraction vary throughout the throw, being more intense in the "power pocket" phase of the throw than when you just start moving the disc forward. One last question, what part does the hip rotation play in generating velocity? Are you contracting the abs to help with the hip rotation? Do you consider the hip rotation to be an active part of generating velocity or does the hip rotation in your model occur more as a result of the lats work in other words more of a passive movement?

Glad to hear it. I'll try to get out a video more fully explaining the theory soon.

Thank you for this video. This unlocked some doors in my mind in such a good way. This form looks exactly like the pros. I'm going to practice this every day.

Thank yoy

Thanks for this compelling video! So glad it popped into my feed; I think you're really on to something, especially w/ the launch step. Could you clarify some terms, perhaps in a future video, especially where you mention "the weight" and "it goes up" and "it goes down"? I have an intuitive sense of what you mean based on what my eyes see, but these terms feel somewhat overloaded. I think a breakdown in terms of bodily mechanics would really help this stuff land. Again, excellent video. Thank you for the insights!

Ya, in order for me to throw straight on time I need a hop step like feldberg

very informative video! appreciate it.

“Launch Step” is an amazing observation! Thank you!

I’m late to this video, but I had a thought while watching that you could weigh in on. Do you think that a slightly longer extension on the brace leg will naturally keep the upper body behind it? It seems intuitive to me that it would. This might help with rotating on the heel as opposed to the ball of the brace foot which might cause the upper body to be over the brace as opposed to behind it.

This is really a helpful video, and I will be incorporating this technique beginning with tomorrow's warmup. I do have an interesting topic. Thrpughout my life, I have been affidextrous. All sports I've played (tennis, baseball, football, basketball, ping pong, raquetball, pool, etc.) have been right-handed. However, I write, eat, and do most precision tasks left-handed. I did break my right wrist earlier in my life and found I was able to retrain myself to play ping pong and pool to about an equivalent level of proficiency left-handed during the six weeks that I had a cast. That said, I have been playing disc golf for about two uears and play almost exclusively RHBH. I have dabbled with throwing RHFH, but have only limited it to short flick shots because I really feel that my shots suffer when I put power to them. The thought has crossed my mind to learn to thtow LHBH to give myself a right-fading shot for holes for which it would be prefferred. Given my situation, would you recommend that I concentrate on developing the LHBH, or should I try to fix the RHFH, since my right arm in naturally stronger. This came to mind when I saw you practicing the left foot heel pivot.

All you do is plant on the edge of your foot its like a baseball swing watching the pros in MLB. Being on the balls of your feet and plant down on the inside of you foot will keep your weight back, and center.

Failing to extend the plant leg so it is completely straight just as the the disc is ejected is failing to brace. Extending too quickly causes your plant foot to leave the ground. Extending correctly allows your body to rotate in place, on top of the straightened leg. It also prevents pole-vaulting over the top. Extending (bracing) correctly increases hip rotation and torso rotation speed, and hence disc air speed, because torso rotation rate is the single deciding factor in distance throwing. Additionally, extending your plant leg increases pressure on the ground, increasing both grip and traction (they are not the same thing) exactly and precisely when you need it most. If you front leg is not straight before the disc is ejected, then you are not bracing. Period. On top of this, extending allows you to easily move upwards into static balance (as you have done since you learned to walk) at the end of the throw. It's very difficult to end balanced on just your plant leg if that leg remains bent. AND... by timing your leg extension so that it finishes just as the disc is ejected, pressure on the ground is then radically reduced, which automatically allows your plant foot to rotate on the heel.

I think Aaron Gossage has the tightest and shortest form . It’s so quick.

What insightful content, unique and different analysis from what other pros are saying. Kudos to doing your research and thanks for sharing. Eager to go test this out!

I have a hunch as to why it’s so difficult in general for the average player. I have no data here but I believe most RH dominant athletes are also Right Foot dominant. This means for a RHBH you are bracing with your dominant foot instead of using it to generate the power. I come from a Skateboarding background and the friend that introduced me to DG was really surprised how much I struggled. He assumed the brace and weight transfer would come naturally due to my skateboarding experience. The problem is I skate “regular” stance, or left foot forward. The motion for RHBH, specifically the footwork and brace, is the exact opposite of what’s naturally comfortable for me. My hunch is that if we polled the top 100 players, I’d bet a higher percentage of the RH/RF dominate players would skateboard/snowboard “goofy” footed, leading naturally with their right foot. Maybe I’m just trying to justify why I’m still so bad at all of this hahaha. Either way, great videos!! Thank you for taking the time to break it down.

Great video, but could be better with fewer pauses in the videos 😉

I think a big error that people make (eg.: me) is moving 'over the brace' instead of into the brace, because we try to push off with the left leg (RHBH)

Great stuff. When you do the single step are you reaching and torquing from your waist and following through with a delayed pull? I am finding it difficult to generate the power doing the standstill single step. I do feel the brace though. Great stuff

I have a small timeframe between toes hitting and heel hitting in the plant, sometimes it looks like I plant my entire foot at once. I always rotate out on my heel and I know how to brace. I see pro's have a much more pronounced separation in time of their toe/ball of foot hitting before the heel hits when they reach for the ground in the plant. Can players benefit from a longer timeline between toe touching to heel touching or is a smaller timeframe of "rolling" from toe to heel just as effective?

Launch Step is the "Brinster Hop"

After playing "seriously" for a year or so starting at basically 0 skill ive been able to get out to 260ish when im lucky. after recently paying attention to my bracing foot, ive noticed i naturally kind of hop on that last step and have felt alot more snap and power out of my throws. I tend to rotate on the balls of my feet, but im going to try paying attention to my heel instead, as just playing around in my house it feels alot nicer, and i notice the weight staying a little further behind me

Threw my farthest drive thanks to the launch step. Great video

I would love to see a breakdown of Sai Ananda's drives like this. She barely has any run up and crushes the disc.

Thanks for sharing ❤

Hello sir, how do I throw flat? I always throw hyzer sir i tilt the disc sir

Thanks for these couple videos. I really appreciate the thought of the weight going up and then down into the brace, rather than all linear towards the target. I would say Eagle McMahon and Gannon Buhr don't really have a crow hop or short x-step, but obviously they're doing everything right as far as timing. I think for the rest of us, adapting Kristin Tattar's form will help us see results faster. I agree on term "launch step" being illuminating. Perhaps most of us have focusing on the wrong step.

Great information! I hope more is coming in future as well, so time for some "critique" about the video it self. A bit of pre planning on what you're about to talk, and pre record the movements and then use those videos while talking (like you showed video from Simon earlier) that would help making the video and communication about the concepts bit more fluid.

Bro cracked the code. I just went from 300ft max to 700ft max in this one video!

Great observations and breakdown, really helped me stop pushing my weight forward on the plant which I was struggling with. Would really like to see your breakdown on the sidearm.

Very different video but lots of great concepts! Definetly going to try this!

Lovely getting to see this from a scientific perspective

This is a great vid. I was hopping up and landing down on my brace with so much downward force i couldn't pivot well and my ankle is jacked up from it. It clicks when i move it now. Brace correctly, my friends! Helps your game and keeps you injury-free.

This seems intuitively ok, but I can't help thinking of Eagle's form. He does neither "launch" nor the extra short x-step. His weight almost seems to smoothly ride in a perfect horizontal plane.

You make a lot of good observations and points, many I've made before and some are not totally correct. Not sure if you have seen my, GG/Vertical vs Eagle/Horizontal analysis vid, or Swivel Stairs, Crush the Can part 2.1, Elephant Walk, Hammer Toss, Door Frame Drills, and many others.

Get a brace on your front foot by thinking about your rear foot and arm being an anchor. Try to not let your leg and back arm rotate through the shot until after the disc has left.

this might be the only thing im overlooking i felt i was doing it by looking at my form not so much im leaning over my knee vs me bracing on my thigh behind my knee..

ive been using chatgpt to ask very specific questions about disc golf movements and what would be stronger and faster etc etc

thanks for breaking the heel rotation thing down, your gona save a lot of people knee pain.

cool, lookforward to working with this idea/observation. TY

Big brains appreciate the thought and time for the analysis

Are you saying the final momentum coming from the run up (RHBH) should come from the right foot more than pushing off the left foot during the xstep?

I went back and looked at some of my form videos and I could instantly see how I don't transfer my weight very efficiently. Excited to take some more footage and make some adjustments! Great Video

I feel like Simon's horizontal movement is derived from being a 360 full distance thrower. Wiggins does the same.

You really have a gift of being able to explain whats going on with these movements. Thanks for taking the time to make this video.

Are you sure?

Wow. Very in depth analysis of the front foot plant. I'm certainly not doing it like Calvin! I've never thought of the X-step foot as a sort of "passing through without disturbing the weight getting to the plant foot" process. I was so into pushing off with the left foot because I thought it would push me into the brace, but all it did was mess up my shoulder turn and the planting of my front foot(I'm not Ezra). So push off with the right foot and concentrate on getting back onto the right foot(plant foot) without intentionally bouncing back up on the left (X-step foot). Thanks for studying the backhand with the photoshop markers for comparison. Can you help us with the Forehand?