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Seems like a pretty smart decision to me. If you are not racing why not enjoy the comfort on a full suspension. Just hate riding the stump on the road

Thats a big tire. I wonder how much that would impact the road riding. I tend to do a lot of road miles on the Crux as well. Sounds like I need two wheel sets.

@@2_Pedals I first tried the 2.2 Continental Race King and didn't fit but the 2.1 Thunder Burts do. 2.0 mtb tyre would be ideal but they are hard to find. To be on the safe side I've cut off part of the knobs on the left rear (Dylan Johnson tip;) Easy to do, so now even when the frame flexes when out of the saddle I'm sure it does not touch the frame. Of course the clearance is not a lot but I did not have any problems and I have tried many tyres on the Crux but these are amazing. I used a redshocks suspension stem and seatpost before for an ultra gravel race but with these tyres I don't use any of it as I feel these give more comfort than the suspension. Used it for Badlands ultra race and worked out great and plan to use it for Unbound next year when it's a dry edition. I also use them on tarmac and you can check on www.bicyclerollingresistance.com that mtb tyres are faster than any gravel tyres. Also the Silca tyre pressure adviser is very useful and accurate matching to the terrain you're riding.

@@2_Pedals I've also brought the weight of my Crux down to 6.7 kilo so this helps as well I feel for how the bike behaves and it's a dream

The STR is next on my list of bikes to try. I do have a hard time seeing the point of the STR vs an Epic. But you definitely cannot pedal an Epic very fast on the road.

This is great info thanks. I do think tire choice is the main separator on these bikes. If you have the wrong tire for the wrong type of riding it will make all the difference.

Very interesting the GEO between the two bikes on paper it looks very similar but the Diverge rides like a smaller framed bike even though they are both 58. I would have thought that GEO would have been much more relaxed and upright on the Diverge vs Crux but its actually very similar. The only big thing I have noticed is the Diverge does feel longer and you get that added stability of a longer bike when going fast.

@ Nice! How tall are you? Is the 58 a good fit?

Ya I find the more I ride the Diverge the more and more I enjoy. Definitely not a road bike but makes all those rough gravel roads so much nicer to ride and enjoy. I do want to get some carbon wheels for the Diverge though I did notice that the aluminum ones it came with were a bit soft.

Thanks man appreciate it. Do you find the STV version is worth it?

Right sounds like tires are the biggest thing. I still have the Crux so will have to throw so wider tires and see how it rides.

I have a Specialized Epic hanging in my garage. It’s a blast on dirt trails and roads. Just zero fun to ride on the road.

That sounds like quite the tire setup. Sometimes though I feel like it would be easier to take my mountain bike out when the roads get really rough.

Will it fit 2.2 or 2.1 650b tyres?

Ya I bet that would make the ride super smooth. Wondering how much slower I would be on the road though. I do a fair amount of riding on tarmac so gotta make sure im not too slow.

@ if you figure that out, it’s a valuable formule for lots of people, lol. I just saw a vid (in dutch) about gravel tyres, but for races. I think it depends on what you value most, more speed on gravel vs more speed on tarmac or something in between. There’s no ‘do-it-all’ tyre. The most preferred size is 45mm at the moment (for races), using a low profile , like schwalbe g one rs pro. I think the ones from specialized are good also. Tbh i think you’ll hardly notice more resistance from those tyres in 38 vs 45mm on tarmac, even with 45mm on lower pressure. The 45mm will be better (comfort, control) on gravel.

Just put 650b wheels with a 2.1 tyre on your crux and you probably have a smoother ride then your diverge

​@@2_Pedalsunless you are pushing 300 watts on average, I doubt that tubeless wide tires will be any slower even on the tarmac, than the same, but narrower tires. I would change the tires for 47/48 without even trying 38s. In fact, 47s were the narrowest tires on my gravel bikes. With one exception, which are 42 slicks on my road wheelset 😅

The Aspero is next on my list of bikes to try. The Crux hasn't ever felt noodly for me off road, it does have a smaller bottom bracket which gives a little bit more flex off road but overall I feel like its a pretty predictable bike on dirt. I think the Roval wheels help with this they are stiff and provide great feedback on the dirt, I find some of the cheaper aluminum wheels can be less predictable

@@2_Pedals yeah I don't know if I trust those posts I read. it seems most Crux owners really like their bike. I think I'll get a Crux comp and upgrade to Terra CL or Reserve 40 wheels. I currently ride a Roubaix which I love but also want a fast gravel bike

@@norcalchrismeister Ya if you currently have a Roubaix I would definitely recommend the Crux, much stiffer and quicker version of that. However I would start with tires at least larger than 40s for a fun experience

@@2_Pedals Thx! Appreciate the advice

Had to hit it a few times.

Couple more miles and it begins.

Nothing beats it, silence and dirt!

Gloves always while mountain biking, outside of that I like to feel the grips on my bare hands for the most part. Unless it is cold.

I have sweaty palms and quit wearing gloves during warm months. Will wear gloves in the Fall and once the temps dip into the 20's, out comes the pogies which allows me not to wear gloves.

On the road amazing. On longer gravel rides your hands start to notice that stiff frame and the vibrations going up through the handlebars. Overall very similar experience to a longer ride on a road bike. If the road is super rough obviously your are going to suffer quite a bit more.

Go 47m and run lower pressure. Possibly look into a redshift stem if you want to soften it up a little.

Ya gotta try wide tires next the 38s are pretty small for any type of Gravel riding. I look into the redshift as well. Thanks for the tip.

@@2_Pedals How about the geometry? Do you think it is too aggressive to daily or do you get used to it?

@@shininngg No not at all. I actually think this is one of the more comfortable road/gravel bikes I have ridden. I pitch the handlebars up a bit more than normal to get a nice comfortable seating position.

I wish I would have bought the 100%s. These are actually Smiths and I way overpaid for them.

@@2_Pedals yeah those are cool

Wow thats low, I run that on my MTB. I am a heavy dude so probably couldn't get away with that low but I will give those tires a look. Just out of curiosity what is your approximate body weight.

@@2_Pedals 72 kg. I have an Epic Evo mtb and run tyres at 20/23 psi

Tubeless btw

I find if I put any less than 50 PSI, I start getting rock dings on the rims. The tires measure just over 40 when fully inflated but I have noticed with mileage they get quite a bit more round and flat.

Ya the GRX seems to be a favorite of a lot of riders. The Orbeas are really pretty bikes though nice ride

Im 6,1 and fit perfectly on a 58

Full suspension. Stumpy

Thanks, I always feel weird putting huge tires on a very light fast gravel bike, but I will give this a shot see how it goes.

I just put 47m tires and road or gravel it added confidence and comfort. Love it.

Ya love this as a road bike, depends on the type of terrain you will be riding gravel on but overall really great bike.

Thanks this is great advice, im gonna try sanding the pads before I get new ones. We will see how it goes.

It’s possible that it works. I’ve done this on my motorcycle‘s pads. Make sure to release the brake every now and then when doing long downhills. The heat can turn the pad‘s surface to glass. Make sure to properly break in the pads again after sanding them. They need to be seated with the disc again.

Will do, thank!

Thanks much appreciated

My current tires are the Specialized pathfinder 38s. I run between 50-60 PSI I am about 180 LBS. I will probably switch to at least a 40MM going forward for a softer ride.

​@@2_PedalsProbably won't feel much of a difference unless you can fit like 48

@@2_Pedals I'm using the Schwalbe 2.1 Thunder Burt mtb tyres. Faster than any gravel tyre and very fun and comfortable. But a very narrow fit as I even had to trim down part of the knobs on the left backside. I used this set up for Badlands ultra race in Spain and it was amazing. I rode Badlands before with 40mm gravel tyres and at the time even had redshock suspension stem and seatpost but was less comfortable then this year when I did not use any suspension. So all the comfort came from the 2.1 tyres with low pressure

One of the true joys of being out in the middle of nowhere on a bike. Nothing better!

Yeah, it's kind of weird that there is no footage of the top whatsoever!

Top of the summit was still completely buried in snow and was inaccessible when this was filmed.

You can thank RUclips for downgrading the quality.

Yes exactly. All you would need is a tow rope to get through the water on a hoverboard