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@@thatguy.7608 It is a 32 cm HAC. The difference in the vertical horizontal shape between HAC and Birkin is more obvious in bigger bags. I love the original HAC but since they were originally created to carry a saddle they are huge and impractical. The original Birkin was a 35 but with the width of a 40.

@@BrunoEliasable Excellent choice. The “luxury” industry is trolling us at this point and I am done. I can show you how much amazing top quality items I bought instead with my cancelled Louis Vuitton order. I am only hanging around this space because I need to research current market prices for preloved luxury bags as I am liquidating my collection!

@@cmt1838 Yes they are! I am selling them all by the way!

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag do you have kangaroo and koala silver charms from Trollbeads?

@@cmt1838 I don't think so. I have the kiwi 😁I might do a video sale showing you everything one by one. I talk about bags on this channel now. So please bear with me.

@@TC-fq7cy Single grain natural leather sadly tend to be on the heavier side. This is relatively light because of the canvas. But you are right. It seems to be modelled after the Kelly and that’s not a shoulder bag. So the shape to me is awkward carried that way. Maybe that’s why it feels bulky to you? I am not sure. Combined with the closure this is definitely not for me and I am selling it. But others have made it work well for them. So who knows! 😅

@@BrighterThanYours Some. Not most.

@@inaonoson Hello! From memory Chamonix is coated. So the “natural” refers to the colour. I have what I think is vintage Chamomix. It’s been so long and these bags weren’t as big a deal as they are now so we hardly kept records and provenance like some people do now. I’ll try to find it and film a comparison.

@@bellevue564 It is good quality BUT it isn’t single grain. So not my favourite. Which is why I gave it to my mum, and I have never carried this since I bought it 20 years ago. However it is one of the better designs and well priced out there that isn’t getting as much chatter around here for some reason. I am so glad you are enjoying yours!!

@@bellevue564 I am so glad they haven’t been forgotten! They are only a few of a handful brands who are still independent.

@@TC-fq7cy Hello! I am glad I was a fan of it BEFORE it was popular. I can get over how people want it now. It wasn’t looking luxurious enough for most people 15 years ago. Too rustic. With the changing nature of the bag among Hermes fans who prefer their leather to look as they see them new from the store, no one wanted it. Why do people like it now do you think?

@@Journeywithclaire There is an excellent thread on Purse Forum called Ode To Barenia. It was from a time when collectors and enthusiasts could still sell to each other and restore our own bags in peace. Before these bags became more than bags and none of us could afford to risk having fun with them anymore 😅 There are amazing tips there!

@@ALLIENYC Hello! Yes it is nice to have an LV pencil case although I am using it for something else. And yes, I think the secondary luxury market is overheated and overly commercialized. Once shareholders are involved, it was the end for ordinary folks trying to sell their unused bags because they are unused and they want to fee up some cash. NOT profit. Thanks so much for watching, commenting, and sticking around!

Oof yes, ED is mainly not about food but about control 😣 The need for control is often associated with anxious tendencies, which I do have, and am aware of. Thankfully, I have learned to manage it in a reasonably healthy way. Speaking of health I hope yours is better now. I also hope your friend is well.

Hey Kelly. I am so sorry you had to take all of your content down. The conversation we had were most enjoyable and I regret losing a part of that which I could have with you on your side of the content. But you know I have a fountain pen and stationery channel now. Come join me over on that side. There are a lot of internal processes to be chatted about although usually people kept them to a surface level, in the past I experience that many are more open to digging deeper there. You’ll have more fun I think. It is stationery season now so I’ll be there until early next year 😊

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag thank you Anneke, you’re a doll. I think what I’m going to do is selectively put some of the videos back up-those that are deeper and more interesting. I wont stop posting altogether. I just need to be more particular about what I post. And I should probably get a camera and mic so I can be heard. I don’t know. Or maybe I’ll walk away. I’m torn. I’m really not an extrovert and I struggle with why I post at all. But then I remember that I meet interesting people like you. And it makes it all worthwhile.

@@kellylyons7611 You have to feel comfortable first. I have been on RUclips for 9 years. I didn’t show my face for 3 years. I was cyber stalked and trolled for 4 years. It only stopped after Covid and I think because he is dead. I bought a mic only 3 years ago 😁 and still recoding on my phone 😁 If you talk about how your journal there is an audience 🫰

@@kgan4733 It was the OLD FORMULA Hermes Saddle Baume. They don’t make it anymore due to some ingredients which became illegal. The current balm is made differently and I would suggest you RESEARCH this on Purse Forum. There are many people there who have tried the NEW FORMULA, the only one you can buy now. I myself can’t speak for it. Good luck!

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag thank you for your information. I'll look into that and get back to you with my takes.

@@fabianseow83 Thank you so much! Years have gone by and I still find so much pleasure in them!

@@456sammy1 Good for you! I am glad there are many people loving this bag because I AM SELLING IT and I need interested buyers! Of course I made a meal of closing the bag. Didn’t you hear what I said about why this doesn’t work for me?

@@Bella-Bella888 So glad to hear! Because I am selling this and really do need people who would want to buy it! ☺️

Thanks for watching! Because I am selling this, I really should talk it up! But I have to be honest about why I am selling it. It is a good bag in a good condition, it just doesn’t work for me for these reasons!

I aaaaaaam 😁 You subscribe there?

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag I watched some of your videos on your other channel some time ago :)

@@Lily-nl1fd Nice to see you here! I’ve moved on from this topic on this channel 😅 and will be unlisting these videos soon!

You know, I haven’t even carried it! I have a review of the large grey one coming though. I’ll try to review this as soon as I can!

It has been good. I'll review it soon!

Apparently? At least for back then.

Wow!! Let us know how you go with that one! I do hate that term “influencer” 💀 I better be careful what I say in the future!!

It is a pity. It is good quality bags with tasteful designs. They are one of a few independent design houses too.

Because it has been used for two decades 🔥❤

Thank you! It is a 32 cm 😁

The watch cuff is in use since it is on my Apple Watch 😊 Sadly the bags have been sitting in my closet 💀 Since I moved back to New Zealand from Singapore my life style has changed 180 degrees 😅 Walking in sideway rain storms aren’t the type of days made for carrying a Birkin or a Kelly even when they are made of barenia! 🤣 But. You are absolutely correct, of course ❤️‍🔥

Barenia is a tough one to live through before the patina. The “issue” I think is how these bags have become a luxury item that costs too much for it to look “shabby” and not “elevated”. You look chic on a horse with well patina barenia but stepping out of a Bentley you might look like you woke up without brushing your teeth. I dunno. My own personal aesthetic has never been “bling”. So they suit me fine. As for box leather, I am too scared to carry one because it is the opposite of barenia. The more you wear the box the worse it looks. Barenia and VN are the opposite. The more you wear them to better they look. “Better” I guess isn’t “like new” in this specific conversation. I have a Kelly sellier 32 blistered like box. But I would never buy box. So I am not sure what I have in my hands at the moment. As to why vintage box leather bags aren’t blistering I guess when you carry a Hermes bag way back in the day, or even these days, you wouldn’t often get caught in the rain now would you? 😌 Cars will pick you up and drop you off from one sheltered place to another, no? Some things are really products of their times.

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag Oh no, your kelly sellier 32 blistered? What leather is it? Actually the worn in look is now trending. It would be interesting to see your bag collection or your favourites from it. Seems you are a long time collector.

@@ClaraZeela Chamonix I think. I will film the bag and the leather and upload that soon. There are too many of my bags stored in a few different places for me to show them all at the moment 😅 I’ve been buying designer (“luxury”) handbags since the late 1990s. But mainly started seriously collecting around early 2000s. Prada was amazing at the time. Miu Miu and Fendi too. Really playful and amazing designs. Tom Ford was on fire at Gucci and YSL. Most importantly LVMH was only a few years old and they haven’t ruined the market yet. Maybe one day I can go through all of them one by one ☺️ Are you in HK? Don’t have an after sales service team and craftsperson there? I need some of my hardwares replaced and I have no Hermes near me. Australia is the closest to me but they don’t have after sales service teams in any of the cities their stores are present I don’t think. As for pebbled barenia being more sentient to oil, I think you are right. If you see in this video, there is a permanent mark at the bottom of my Kelly 28 that I suspect is oil. If it had been water it would have disappeared. Since pebbled barenia has more crevices it would be more prone to anything getting caught there and staying on the leather. I don’t know about alcohol stains. But my first reaction would have been to leave it. As I have alluded before, for me staining is part of the long process of the “maturing” of the leather, and the changes in its visual qualities which is part of the fun of the leather for me. Sadly I think the unbelievable prices the market is asking for these bags now would have prevented anyone from having fun with any of it. Very sad. I am curious how H “fixed” yours though? Could you share?

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag yes I am currently in Hong Kong and the after sales is fantastic but usually takes a few months if it’s a local fix up. I believe they may have put a light paint over it to cover the discolouration. It looks okay and you cannot tell unless you look closely. For more heavy duty fix ups I believe they need to send to France . So far the experience is very good

It is chef’s kiss 👌

I suspect so too. And most vloggers are from the US. I think.

Let’s hope smaller brands won’t keep trying to compete with LVMH in a race they can never win, and take a decisive position in the market where they can provide customers like us with alternatives to LVMH’s brands and prices.

The black barenia didn’t get a justified amount of time here you are right. I foresee a black barenia dedicated video soon 😆 I’m Google-ing James Crane 😊

Always a pleasure to find someone who think deeply about things as I sometimes been accused of. Even when talking handbags! I grew up in the 80s and 90s too. But it took me into my late 20s which is the late 1990s to feel comfortable in my own skin. Luckily I grew into an adult in New Zealand. It was a place of feverish independence. Sir Peter Jackson grew up in the same city as mine and there is a reason why Lord of The Rings in its glorious trilogy could only be made right then and in NZ. It was a magical time here. I could hardly recognize this country today but that’s a whole different conversation. I only realized this when I moved to NYC. How my sense of style is unique and I had NZ to thank. So into my 40s I have maintained the same centre of confidence. This centre shifted as I hit 50. And all the unique personal style I cultivated all of my adult life suddenly no longer works. It is amazing how changed in your body changes so much more.

BTW, I would love to hear more about your work in Alaska, and Alaska itself, IF you are comfortable? As I mentioned elsewhere, it is on bucket list to visit 😌

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag yes finding folks who think deeply is always a bonus out here in the tube. My work? Nothing special really. Just an engineer in the oil industry.

Well. To be fair, if you look at the Origami Tote, it lacks a certain kind of polish or sophistication. I don’t know how to say it without sounding like I don’t really mean to with my sentence. Simply that pushed for a much bigger arc, Stuart Vevers managed to touch a design touch point. Which as amazing as it is, felt to me a bit unpolished. The way I see it, that’s when Jonathan Anderson came in. Looking at his own design label, his designs under his own banner also lack a sense of elegance and delicacy which makes his Loewe pieces sensational. Perhaps it is all about synergy. Alone they are interesting. But with a team of people under a big business with huge cashflow, certain other things can happen in ways they can’t independently.

Oh! I have no idea what the current size up from small is! This is a 29 cm wide!

After a bit of research I think it’s the same! Think the small is the one for me but proving even trickier to find! Thank you 😊

Thank you! Based on the same info I estimated this to be from 2018. Smooth calf with blind stamp, metal feet, D ring, and visible seams. Do you know anything about the contrasting stitching. I saw conversations about bags with contrasting stitching from a few years ago but it seems to have become less common in later years?

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag Hmm that’s a bit harder (JA is constantly switches details) so don’t quote me on this BUT…I’ve yet to see a pre-2018 with contrasting stitching (especially those w/ white anagram). Even the LE exotics, engraved calfskin, mixed-color, & Ibiza collections appear to have all used monochrome thread. If u look at the 2018 seasons there were some releases that used monochrome on the bag & contrasting stitches on handle + strap. The blind stamp standard colors appear to have been released in full contrast as well (so ur likely correct about ur new bags age). Late 2018 - 2021 has heavy variation! There’s full monochrome (including hardware), others with contrast, & everything in between (depending on release & size). As of the poor decision in 2023 we’re left with limited colors, sizes, & a crappy strap. The stitching is mostly ‘color matched’ but its not good enough to be called monochrome anymore.

@@Snail_Nailz Sad isn’t it. Based on all the info I can gather and now some of yours, I am pretty certain we agreed that this is more likely than not from 2018. Especially given the visible seams. When you say monochrome and how it can’t be called that anymore, what do you mean if you don’t mind me asking. Have you noticed they are also now moving people on to cheaper non leather straps with their brands plastered all over them making us walking advertisers for them while we pay them money? Same with the discreet blind stamped anagram on the Flamnco bags, now a very visible gold stamped L O E W E…?

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag 1000%! I panic-bought after SA confirmed they were basically being discontinued. (Why get rid of a bag that made u a fashion darling?!) *The decision to replace it with Edge was SUCH a poor choice & abandons everything the house of Loewe is built around!* Its not only WAY simpler (ie cheaper) to construct but it offers none of the beauty found within the puzzle bags complexity. Then..they have the audacity to make customers buy an additional donut strap or be forced into wearing that monogrammed guitar monstrosity as walking advertisement. I’m a JA-stan but the massive price hikes & poor decisions have really put me off the brand to the point I mainly buy pre-loved.

@@OrangeIsTheNewBag However, I did try on the new Flameco PURSE in black & OMG is it heavily…buttery soft, sooo to carry (kept forgetting it was on my shoulder), has multiple strap options builtin, & the gold donut chain w/ interwoven leather adds just enough pop to keep things interesting. Couldn’t bring myself to buy (cuz I’m still mad at them) but it did go on my wishlist for the Mr 😂

Hello. There is LVMH own website that still has the medium available. The online store is called 24S. At the time of my writing this they have a tan and a black medium. There was puzzle medium in a different colour when I checked last month. So it is unclear if they are still making them, and if so why not have it available online, or if 24S is only selling old stocks. But I feel this is your best bet. The medium is 29 cm wide. The small is smaller than that. The satin calf is a newer leather that they priced higher and from what I gather, stiffer than the "classic" calf. I don't like Loewe's latest non leather straps. But it is a matter of personal taste. With the already high price of the satin calf, I resent the idea that Loewe is making us pay MORE for a leather strap. (I think there is one where one bag has two straps, one leather, one not leather, but I can't be sure if I am imagining that). The large is 35 cm, and feels significantly bigger to me compared to the medium. The best way to estimate this for yourself is to check out their exact measurements on Loewe's site. I am not sure why yours wont have a D ring at the base if you bought the same large grey puzzle bag as mine? That D ring is useless anyway. If you wanna carry it on your back, simple push the bag towards your back as you carry it messenger style. That works better for me. Good luck with 24S!

Thanks for writing! 24S is a great site, I’ve ordered from them before and the selections and service is excellent. I’ll take a look at the Medium there. Do you use large as a daily carry or only for travel? I’m still waiting for my large puzzle asphalt to arrive, it’s coming from Madrid and it is the classic. It must be a newer model since it doesn’t have the D ring, but I found old stock w the D ring but I didn’t want to chance it bc I wanted to order direct from Loewe, plus keep my purchase history in case they get weird like Hermes or Chanel in the future. How are you liking the color? I love the sage even more but I felt the dove grey would be more universal and actually pops more against outfits. On a diff note, would you ever consider The Row Margaux or is the large puzzle the bag to end all bags 😂

@@bettybbags I carry it as a daily carry ☺️ Where I live has literal 4 seasons in one day and since I never learned how to drive I walk everywhere. So I need my jacket and water bottle in there. For a bit, I did check out The Row and love their styles. BUT. For those pieces? NO. As for their bags, they are nice. But for those prices, I want exceptional. And they aren’t 😁 I am never done with bags 😂

​@@OrangeIsTheNewBag I bought the Margaux 17 in Taupe! I just love big bags for my lifestyle.

@@bettybbags Congrats! I do like them and almost bought one myself!

It is a desk mat of the BT21 characters 😂

Probably not 😂 But thank you for helping the algorithm of this video so it can circulate more ❤