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What size USA pan did you get? 1 LB pan or bigger? You didn't give the measurements for this one.

My lowest line Kitchenaid has lasted over 30 years. I wish it would die so I could justify a Bosch

America’s test kitchen did reviews for all 3 mixers in 2023. See you tube.

I find Lehi is harder to work with but tastes amazing. Montana is very forgiving and takes additives well. Bobs was good… but for the price it is too expensive to experiment with.

I find that home bakers that add more flour to a recipe when using a kitchen aid are usually not giving their dough nearly enough time in the mixer to extract the gluten. A properly hydrated dough will look like a sticky mess and stick to the bottom of the bowl for the first 10 minutes. Then it will start to come away. Higher hydration doughs could take even 20 minutes or more.

I just watched your video and don't agree with your con's on the KA mixer. I bake two loafs to sourdough bread a week. I have never had a problem with the on off knob or adjusting the speed. My 6 qt KA mixer has worked flawless for over 10 years.

thanks so much!

I love the Bosc. I make bread about once or twice a month. I generally make more than one loaf at a time and freeze them. I've never made anything but bread in it. I have a hand mixer that I use for cakes and icings and cookies. I keep the Bosc in a cabinet not on my counter top. It is very heavy though and it's difficult for me to lift. And the clean up is more time consuming than I like. It makes great bread though so it's worth the time and trouble. I probably bought it 15 years ago.

I am currently using a Kitchen Aid for bread making that I inherited. It works fine, I don't have trouble with the speed lever binding or in otherways being troublesome, but with the lever on the side of the machine, the speed setting is not readily viewable which I don't like. Also the dough climbs up the dough hook which is a pain as its not mixing in well. Not sure what size I have but mixing two loaves is really the limit. One final note about the Bosch which you did not mention is: They are insanely LOUD! Best Wishes

Thank you for the comparison. I used a KitchAid for probably 25 years, well actually about three of them, as they cannot handle bread well. Even with my husband repairing them several times they just didn't do a great job especially with heavy dense doughs or large batches. I have had an Ankarsrum almost two years. It is wonderful for bread. Breads that I have made for years come out better with there Ankarsrum. I can do larger batches and it still does a great job with tiny batches of bread. I moved my last KA to the garage when the Ankarsrum arrived and I have not missed it at all.

I have the Ankarsrum and I love it!!! It was a tiny bit of a learning curve, but it didn’t seem significant to me. It is an incredible mixer and I don’t feel the need to babysit it at all. It is also a beautiful mixer that I leave on the counter too.

Does anyone have an issue with the bosch getting dough squish through the center thing down under the bowl? This has happened the last 2 times i have used it and i am very disappointed.

I'm hoping that the organic Costco flour that is milled by Central Milling is the same as the one you tested, Seems to be OK. It's a lot cheaper than some of the others. This was a good test and it is great to know that whereever you are you can buy flour that will give you a pretty good result.

I have a 6qt KA but it can't handle dough although it has a dough hook. I'm not surprised that they came out with the 2 minutes of kneading and your warranty is voided. I'm not risking it with mine. I think the commenter who said you need the commercial size to make bread is right. I keep it for the attachments I have for it. I use my Ankarsrum for everything. It's not hard to use, just different than KA. It comes with another bowl and cake and cookie beaters and whisk beaters for cream, meringues etc. You can also make big or small batches of stiffer dough cookies in the bread bowl with the roller. If you want to make six loaves I would use the dough hook it comes with instead of the roller. Ankarsrum is a winner my kitchen and it won't burn out or overheat. I hear the Bosch is good too. I have a Bosch dishwasher and it's the best.

Never use mixer for bread. Been making sourdough for 6 years. Best bread.

Which Kitchen Aid version is this one? Thank you.

I have Bosch compact, 2 years old, now I have a problem to put in attachments, they do not go in how it should be

That unnecessary attachment thing on the Bosch is actually also the motor.

I watched twice but it looks to me like you skipped the cast iron loaf. Am I blind?

I did some limited testing myself with White Lily vs Great Value. The white lily was better in almost every aspect to me and my family. Texture, flavor, and rise were all better with the white lily. Additionally, it formed a smoother ball of dough and was generally easier to work with as a dough. The only downside is the White Lily is about $1 more per bag when compared to the great value, but I feel the benefits more than make up for the price difference. My selection is a bit limited where I am, but with what is available to me, white lily is my preferred brand.

King Arthur is my go-to flour.

Great video. I am looking to buy a new mixer as i started using fresh milled flour. Im new to all aspects of bread making. I just want to buy one mixer and be happy. Lol I have a KA and am not happy. I'm so confused, im leaning towards the ANK but if i dont really need to spend that amount of money then i dont want to. thanks for your input!

I'm curious about that Bosch for non-bread (cookies, cakes, etc.) vs the Kitchen Aid. I bought a heavy duty kitchen aid thinking it would be great for bread. Now I just use it to initially mix the ingredients and I default to the stretch/slap and fold method. Sometimes I just mix by hand. I can only seem to get the mixer to properly knead the dough if it's a stiffer dough (pizza dough).

Did you know that there are notches along the speed control groove to hold the knob in place on the KA? If you slightly lift the knob before changing speeds and then lowering it into a groove, it will slide a lot easier. I don't make bread, but if I did, I would get the Ankarsrum.

Just on a side note, you really shouldn't ever have to scrape down the Ankarsrum, but you have your bowl scraper in the wrong hole. The bowl scraper always goes in the front (smaller) hole, the bigger hole is for the dough hook (which I never use). But I do always think the Ankarsrum makes the best dough, the kitchenaid (never used a Bosch) makes GOOD dough, the Ankarsrum just makes it a tad nicer

I want to buy a bosch but since it was made in china I opted for Ankarsrum made in sweden, now I’m happy!

Thanks for doing this review, I think your results were fair and accurate. I bake four loaves every other week plus a few batches of other breads. Started with a KA and liked it but even with only 6 1/2 cups per batch the gears stripped twice. Only got a couple years out of it. Bosch was my second choice and I think I would be happy with it, but I sprang for the Ankarsrum and like it. There is the learning curve and the baby sitting but I found the leaning curve to be quite short and once you do learn the baby sitting is less that a minute. One of the things that made me go with the Ankarsrum is the stainless bowl. I like that there is no plastic other than the scraper and kneading thing.

Great review! I love my Bosch. We have used it 3-4 days a week for over 15 years. True workhorse. If it dies, I will most likely purchase another Bosch. Maybe with the stainless bowl

I'd like to know which you found the best for making sourdough artisan loaves (boules). I'm not that interested in tinned sandwich loaves but have tried a number of these flours. I've heard a lot about Central Milling & Hayden Mills but haven't bought them. Also Wheat Montana which is not very easily sourced in the Midwest.

Super helpful!! I always used to think that a strudier material was "better," but this proves that that is totally untrue! I definitely need those USA pans now🙌

I love the “if you do, I’m so happy for you.” 😂 Another thing to note about the Kitchen Aid in regards to bread making is that Kitchen Aid has said that you aren’t supposed to knead at higher than speed two or for longer than 2 minutes, otherwise you void your warranty and risk overheating the motor. I don’t know about you, but I don’t know of any bread recipe requiring kneading that that would be adequate for. 🥴

Ankarsrum isn’t new Been around since 1940. Just not as well known in the states as the Kitchenaide. I have the Ankarsrum and Kitchenaide love them both. But for bread Ankarsrum is hands down the best. I don’t own a Bosch but didn’t go that route cause of the research I did and a lot of plastic. I’m sure it’s a great machine also

I have used a Bosch for almost 20 years. It’s hands down the best in my opinion because it was made for bread baking and it handles freshly milled flour very well. Bosch was the only stand mixer I’d ever used until a couple years ago I picked up a kitchenaid classic for $29. Wanted to see what the hype was. It doesn’t compare in any category to the Bosch. Not even to make meringue. I know others will disagree. However, I do like the many attachments available for the KA and they’re easy to find on marketplace for under $50. So I use the KA for the attachments and the Bosch for everything else. I’m sure the Ank is a good machine but not necessary if you have a Bosch. Bosch can handle more dough per both companies website and it’s easier to use. Good video!

From someone who runs I micro-bakery, I would add that if you are going to invest in a KitchenAid for bread making, it needs to be the 8 Qt. Commercial model, KSM8990. It features a 1.3 HP DC motor and more robust transmission. Much quieter than their Pro 600/700. KA offers discount programs for many people and once verified, you can log in and buy it for $679.99 direct with free shipping. Cheaper than the Ankarsrum and very versatile.

I wonder if a kitchenaid pro would have a different result

I make what I think is a lot of bread, but I'm told it is a ton of bread. I started with the kitchen aid, after I broke the gears for the 2nd time and had issues with grease dripping down into the mixing bowl when the machine gets hot I moved to the bosch. Liked the bosch. It broke on me a couple of times as well. Being without a mixer a couple of months at a time while it was serviced was frustrating. After the 2nd time I decided I wanted a generational machine. One that would continue to work forever and can be passed from generation to generation. Can't afford a Hobart. Settled on a German Haussler Alpha. It was more than I wanted to pay but I was frustrated with the consumer options so I saved up and purchased one that had been returned so I got a discount. It is a chain driven workhorse that I love. I thought I would have buyers regret spending so much on a mixer, and I did until it arrived and I used it. After a month I would buy it again in a heartbeat. It is an awesome mixer if you are doing a lot of dough.

I love this information! Well tested. Thank you for bring so thorough

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