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@@snowymatrix - mostly wet. Don't underestimate the effect of 'a little drizzle in the hills' 😁

@@snowymatrix - when are you heading out again?

@@snowymatrix - you want to know how NOT to hike? You've come to the right channel! We have hundreds of vids on that subject 😂😂😂. Joking aside - since when do you do research? 🤔😜

Awh - best of luck! Wish we were you 😄. We hope the weather has settled by then, it seems to have been a wild ride thus year so far.

Awh Steve, so sorry we have been a little overwhelmed by life and such recently. There will be a reappearance - just as soon as we can get our increasingly large butts into gear. Hoping for next week ... 🤞

The thing with the Osprey is that while it is indeed a heavier pack it carries the weight very well. So once it's up on your shoulders it almost doesn't matter how much it weighs anymore. Getting it onto your shoulders though ... you'll notice the difference then! Brian no longer uses the pack as an issue with the hipbelt led us into the Kafka-esque world of Osprey Customer Service in the UK, which is (or at least was back then) truly attrocious! Weeks of being send from department to department only to end up where we started led to a solution that cost a lot of money and did bugger all to fix the problem. Especially disappointing as Osprey Customer Service has a superb reputation in other parts of the world :-(. What alternatives to the Osprey are you considering for your hike?

Yeah, we were not best pleased with that one! It appears to have been a common enough issue for Gossamer Gear to start shipping the packs with little rubber stoppers for those poles since then!

Hello welcome to our channel and thank you for watching :). We used the Trekkertent Drift back then, a hiking pole tent made in Scotland. They made us a 3-man version as we needed some extra room due to a shoulder issue that forced Brian to kind of roll in and out of the tent. Ordinarily their 2 person option would have been just fine. Our packweight was (and largely still is) around 10kg / 22lb baseweight. Ultralight we are not ... The c2c is a pretty busy trail during summer, but the majority are b&b hikers, so while there were plenty of people on the trail we didn't have any issues finding camp spots. I think we only met 1person doing the trail the other direction!

Hi Richard. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you - it's been a bit manic round here. So the mobile phone pocket is from Hyperlite like the backpack. It's a good fit and waterproof, with sealed zips so the phone is well protected. Perfect for the job. We also originally got the Hyperlite bottle holder but that one didn't work at all for us. Even though it is from the same company as the pack it just didn't seem to fit right at all. May be to do with the kind of bottles we use: it seemed designed with slim smartwater bottles in mind and any type a bit bulkier was hard to squeeze in. Also the bottle kept hitting my chin. So we swapped it out for a cheap 3F UL Gear number from Aliexpress and have had no complaints since. I did have to add a carabiner clip to it to secure it properly though.

Mother nature isn't all bad - more chaotic neutral 😜

Thanks for coming along 😁

That sounds like a far more sensible time of year to hike it! No heatwaves and probably no midgies. You are going to have a blast! 😄👍

Yep having attempted in July and being stopped by the heatwave after 145 miles (mainly for the dogs welfare, but it was starting to take its toll on me) and then completing the whole thing in September I can honestly say what a major factor the weather plays

Beer is a funny one, isn't it? You can go for weeks without it when you know you can't get any, but when you know it's within reach ... well, all bets are off then! 😜🍻

Thank you. You'll enjoy it - just remember to bring your wellies 😉👍

We were very lucky to finish on such a perfect day. Thank you for coming along for the journey 🙂😉

The views on that day were truly astonishing, especially as we had no hint of them in the soup of the previous day 😄. It was like waking up in a totally different place to the one we had gone asleep in. Definitely happy we got to complete it this time - unfinished trails have a habit of nagging at you and this one had been nagging for a full year! 😆

Damn, only just saw this comment! (RUclips can be veeeery flakey with notifications sometimes). And now we have to go for a long therapy session just to get THOSE images out of our mind again 😂. Thanks for that!

We would have come to serious harm with just 500ml of water at a time! We're all for trying to keep your packweight down, but not at the expense of your health! The Cambrian Way looked quite hit and miss for water, too. When it comes to water (and toilet paper 😆) the rule is: better too much than not enough 😄

HaHa I agree, I need 3 litres to start every morning. The cut lunch and 500ml of water crew should try a few hikes in the real wilderness.

Thank you very much 😄

Thanks Dave. Was a pretty nice pub to finish at as well. 😄🍻

Thank you for watching 🙂

Haha - we have, as it happens. Though not the entire trail. Seriously looking into doing John O'Groats to Land's End in the coming years which would have us doing about 3/4 of the Pennine Way North to South. Have you done it in that direction?

@@liverpoolhikers Me? No way! TBH, I've really enjoyed the achievement of completing the PW, but have never fancied doing it again. Edale-Black Hill was good, Yorkshire Dales, the Tees, and Cheviots also. But I have very mixed feelings about the rest (and positive hatred for Stoodley Pike and Hadrian's Wall!). JoG to LE sounds horrendous! And wouldn't it involve loads of road walking?

@@IvorH - depends on how you plan the route. We'd be looking to avoid roads as much as possible, inevitably making the journey longer than it needs to be, but around John O'Groats there seems to be little to no alternative to road walking. One of thevreasons we are thinkkng of doing it thstcway round - get the crappy bit over with while we are still fresh and full of energy 😄. And poor Stoodley Pike! What has it ever done to you?😉 (Apart from being relentlessly windy and generally overrun by day hikers, ourselves included 😂)

@@liverpoolhikers Stoodley Pike was where we pitched at the end of a long day 2. We could see it all the way from Blackstone Edge, but it never seemed to get any closer. The ground around SP was covered in rocks and sheep poo, and the wind started blowing a gale. It took 3 of us 45 minutes to get my tent up. And the wind got even stronger during the night, so much so that one of us (not me!) had to get up at 3am to check all the tents. Plus my ankle started hurting as soon as we set off again. I feel totally justified in my hatred!

@@IvorH - you were lucky it was only sheep poo. There are things lying around Stoodley Pike we would not want our tent anywhere near ... 😂

We just don't do much trail maintenance by anything but 'sheep' in this country (though it looks like the Southern Upland Way, a trail we would love to re-do, has an amazing volunteer maintenance crew these days!) The PCT is actual trail for all of it's length, whereas the UK delights in 'signpost into cow field, good luck finding the stile on the other side' kind of hiking 😄. Things we wished we'd done differently? A) tested the water filter before setting off 😂. B) allowed more time, as the time pressure we felt towards the end marred some of the experience. Though, to be fair, we had allowed plenty of time, but nearly one week was eaten up by Brian's feet. C) not hike during a national rail strike. 🤣D) took a guidebook with mileage rather than hour distances. Didn't realise until this trail how much that bothers us. Somehow being told 'it should take you so many hours to here' is - for us - more depressing than being told 'it's this many miles to here'. E) possibly take even more water bottles! The next big trail? Not sure there will be a 'big' one this year due to our mushroom Market commitments. It takes a long time restarting the growth once you have shut it down for a bit. But we are looking at squeezing a number of sub 100 milers into convenient gaps. There are a lot of awesome trails in that category, some of which we'd like to re-hike, others we've not explored yet. And picking up day hiking again is a must! We know a guy with a RUclips channel doing the Ethel challenge, who's videos will provide a great bit of inspiration. 😉Just as soon as we have our mushroom - day job schedule sorted ....

@liverpoolhikers yes, great points. I've spent time before trying to find the next sign only to end up climbing over barbed wire because 'that's where the OS Map says the Trail is' only to find it has been moved a field or two over. I don't think I inspire anyone with my vlogs. Remember, I'm on year zero with my hiking, and every time I try a nice loop, I get lost. So even on an 8 mile hike (long for me), it's an out and back. I have the OS app now, so hopefully, my confidence will increase. I get comments like 'I'd have done a 10 mile loop' or 'that wasn't far', and I think I'm year zero trying my best, and I'm 61 and disabled. But I refrain from taking the bait. I just hope that someone else as inexperienced as me will be 'inspired' to give it a go. Because that is all I am doing. Pointing and shooting on the phone and just getting out there and giving it a go. Thanks again for the wonderful vlog and for your reply. I have really enjoyed this.

@@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling - 100% don't take the bait! We have been incredibly lucky to not have encountered any keyboard trolls or one-upmanship warriors on our channel (yet). I guess having the word 'challenge' in the titles unfortunately attracts some of the 'I do 10 miles before breakfast, hopping on one leg' brigade to your vlogs. These people are best politely thanked and/ or ignored. There will ALWAYS be someone who can do it bigger, better and badder, but at the end of the day it is your hike and you do it the way you want / are comfortable. When we started our hiking adventure (in our mid 40's!) we regularly did 4-6 mile hikes and called it a good day. Because it IS! It's 4-6 miles longer than not hiking at all. And as for getting lost ... on one of our last day hikes (not vlogged) last year we managed to misread the map to such an extent we ended up adding an entire hill to the trail because - having gotten totally lost in featureless bog land - we figured that by cutting straight over the hill we would eventually hit the return leg of the loop trail we had lost. It worked, but at what cost! Our legs (and mood) were totally shot after an hour of scrambling up and down dense heather hills 😕 And it was a trail we had hiked before! It's all part of the learning curve, sometimes flatter, sometimes steeper. You do you and don't let anyone spoil your adventure!

Good to know about College Burn. 👍 Visibility was so poor up by the cairn we didn't even see a stream, never mind being able to see if it was running! Hopefully we'll get to that area one day in good weather so we can have a better explore.

Haha - trust you to think of Whiskey first and foremost! Brian's favourite rum is made in Scotland with their great peaty water. It does wonders for distilleries😄. In some rural areas, where houses have their own water supply, you get brown water coming from the taps. Sometimes I think I can taste a bit earthyness, but not always. Saw your short the other day, by the way: fingers crossed for a speedy recovery! 🤞

@@liverpoolhikers Thx Heidi - its stubborn and won't go away completely.

Awh - glad to hear our misadventures can help others 🙂. Those stiles around Reeth sure are unnecessarily difficult for backpackers! Baseball cap is an interesting idea. How do you keep the wind taking it off your head?

Party at the bothy! Beats star jumps, we bet 😉👍

Ah, you were an arcade kid! 😄 Guess any place that has 'windy' in it's name shouldn't really surprise when being ... well ... windy 😆.

Yeah, wind is an issue. Someone else suggested a badeball cap but again: does that work know wind? I seem to be unable to keep any headwear from flying off when the winds get at it 😕

Sometimes the wind does grab the baseball cap off my head. I wear a ponytail hanging out through the hole in the back and that slows down the hat's departure enough for me to grab it sometimes. But that isn't much help to you, is it? I've also resorted to tying a cord to it and safety pinning that to the back of my shirt collar when an occasional gust might try to steal it. But the main thing we are talking about is in rain, to keep the wet off your glasses. In that scenario I'm usually wearing the hood of my rain shell up over the ball cap and that keeps the cap in place.

Also, it might sound goofy, but you could try stitching a ribbon to each side of the cap and tying the flighty thing on under your chin! Might be worth it if it keeps the glasses functional.

@@josephinegibbs3902 - haha, thanks for the visuals of ponytails grabbing hold of baseball caps 😄. You are absolutely right: pulling the rain jacket hood over the cap should work just fine. Will definitely give that a try! 👍

Yeah, we didn't realise there was a stream near the Cairn. Visibility was so poor we couldn't see more than a couple of meters either side (and probably were in full 'get-to-bothy-or-die-trying' mode 😂). I can imagine doing that stretch in the heat is brutal! Really need to look into disposable contact lenses again. Hate the thought of going near my eyes with hands as filthy as mine tend to get during long hikes, but carrying a couple of pairs of disposables for 'those' days is probably a good idea. Better than stumbling around blindly at any rate 😆.

Oh boy, this is taking us back a bit! The shoulder turned out to be better when hiking then in just about any other circumstance! We think it was because the backpack forced his shoulders back straight and his main issue seemed to stem from sitting hunched up over books for hours on end (Brian was studying for his gas qualification at the time). It continued to niggle right up into the first months on the PCT in 2019, though. There's no easy healing once you reach a certain age 😕

@@liverpoolhikers he's still a young pup.

It's a lovely hike. Fingers crossed these blasted winds at the moment die down for you! 🤞👍

@liverpoolhikers This Monday coming, I was going back to Dead Edge End, but the mountain forecast is snow and -9c with hiking advisory. I don't mind the snow, but when the mountain forecast gives out warnings, I'm tempted to agree.

We have driven all the way to Wales for a day hike before only to turn around and go home - that we could barely open the car door against the wind may have had something to do with it. No point making yourself needlessly miserable for a hike. On a multi day hike of course you just have to suck it up 😄. Well ... Brian is exactly 3 years older than Heidi, give or take a couple of months. I guess living with a big child has kept Heidi young, while poor Brian had to live with ... errmm ... a grumpy old lady? 🤔 Or something like that ... 😉.

@liverpoolhikers both young uns then.

I love RUclips automatic captions. When I get really bored, I watch some videos on mute on my mobile to play the 'let's guess what that person REALLY said' game with the captions. The gods only know how Brian's Scouse mumble gets translated! 😂😂

He woke up that day and chose 'Death by 5ft wife'. Some people bungee jump of bridges for a kick, Brian just turns on his special 'charm' 😉

Oh dear, we really have caused some permanent imagination damage to you, haven't we?😆 Don't worry, Chris: what happens in the ferns stays in the ferns ... 😜. Your question about the subtitles was interesting: while Michele in her comment just proved that some of our US friends really do struggle with Brian at times, (we are sure people struggle with Heidi's accent, too - especially when she is butchering local place names 😂) that is not the reason for the text. It's 'wind translation' rather than subtitles because Brian is further away from the mic usually. We struggle to judge what is and isn't audible because as we edit on a laptop, where certain things seem clearer than others. If noisy things happen in the house we use headphones, which suddenly make OTHER things clearer and to top it all of we watch RUclips almost exclusively on our TV, which gives yet another soundscape! So we slap titles on whenever we are not 100% sure it can be heard. So to hear you say ot is perfectly clear is very encouraging. Out of interest: May we ask what medium you are watching our videos on?

@liverpoolhikers I listen on a Galaxy Zfold3. But it is probably how I hear it rather than what I watch it on, which may give me the advantage. I listen via wireless earbuds. They may give me the edge. That and the fact that I was a Psych Nurse in a Prison for 25 years and ex RAF. I have worked with and been on the other side of the bars from a lot of scousers. Not that I'm saying there are a lot of cars without wheels in Liverpool. 🙄😳🤔 But my ability to discern dialects is probably better than our friends across the pond. That being said, scousers definitely have the advantage when it comes to wit. Have I redeemed myself yet Heidi/Brian?😳🤯😇

@@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling - go outside and check your car. If it still has wheels you may just have gotten away with that one 😜. Thanks for the thorough reply. Headphones / earbuds definitely give the best results. 👍

Oh yes, Edale to Crowden has many a fun stumble section! Good excuse to catch your breath, though: I'm just stopping to admire the landscape 😉

It's a funny old trail, isn't it? We were sooooo done with it when it was over, and now, as we are making the videos, we are once again thinking: 'yeah but NEXT time we could do this instead ...' the only other completed trail to ever get us like that was the Southern Upland Way. Wanted to set fire to it when we were done and after 3 days off trail were already planning on doing it better next time. 😂 Guess it's true what they say: love and hate are very close emotions. 😉

@@liverpoolhikers I’ve wanted to walk the PW since I was a boy (now 61). I’m really looking forward to walking it again having completed in Sept 2022.It will also be a chance to do it in a more relaxed way without the whole will I complete pressure. Having done it one and a half times now I have done most of the stuff I wanted to do - want to go into Hebden bridge this time for an afternoon and a few beers 🍻 it will also be strange to spend my 62nd birthday in the cheviots

@@markreed2937 - that will be a birthday to remember! Just pack out a little cake for yourself 😉

This might not be a complete list, but here are the ones that helped a lot in our planning: Snowymatrix thru-walker, Morgs4Mountains, BASHA Dweller, Its Ross Jackson (formerly 'Gay Man Walking'), Plodders Lost and The Constant Hiker. All of them are worth a watch for sure 👍

Just remembered one more. The little tinkers changed their channel name since we watched them so we were looking for the wrong thing! 'Back out there' is another couple hiking. We got the idea of doing a 'best and worst' summary at the end of each day from them and a 2022 PCT hiker.

😂😂🤣😂😂

Careful there, you may get known as 'snowy-Brackenlord-matrix' before long! 😉

So glad to hear it wasn't just us with that climb. It sure was a 'Spanish Inquisition' climb - we didn't expect that! The filling station would have been nice just for water and a snack, tbh. It was so conveniently close to where the trail crosses the road anyway. Still, one should always check if places are still open / in existence before pinning one's hope on them - and we didn't.

Whatever your trials that day ,still loved watching and listening and following you on the map ! Enjoyed it very much. !

@@davidsexton6604 - thank you 😀

Honestly there were times we wished we were on the PCT in SoCal instead! But we were probably just being dramatic 😆. The tree is famous for having been in Kevin Costner movie 'Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves'. It's the tree the baddies chase the little boy into for 'stealing' from the Sheriff and where Robin teases Azeem about getting locked up over a woman. There is quite a bit of the wall in that segment, though outside of Hollywood movies you are not supposed to run over the top of it 😄.

Upside to the heat was nice dry walking in the moors 😀. Downside was nice dry camping in the moors 😆

... and then some more moors! 😄 A lot of people don't like the Pennine Way because of all the moorland hiking and to be honest we're not sure how much we would have loved it if it had been rainy and foggy all the whiles. Moors can get quite bleak in bad weather, but in good weather they are glorious.