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How To Pick an Unpickable Lock
I will be attacking this lock using every method you and I can think of and fixing whatever I may find. This is part of a mission to make an unpickable lock to wave in the face of complacent lock companies.
[1] Locksmith Ledger. (2010, March 2). Master lock meets new astm lock bumping standard. Locksmith Ledger. www.locksmithledger.com/locks/article/10228402/master-lock-meets-new-astm-lock-bumping-standard
[2] RUclips. (2021, May 31). [1299] unpickable locks from stuff made here. RUclips. ruclips.net/video/Ecy1FBdCRbQ/видео.html
[1] Locksmith Ledger. (2010, March 2). Master lock meets new astm lock bumping standard. Locksmith Ledger. www.locksmithledger.com/locks/article/10228402/master-lock-meets-new-astm-lock-bumping-standard
[2] RUclips. (2021, May 31). [1299] unpickable locks from stuff made here. RUclips. ruclips.net/video/Ecy1FBdCRbQ/видео.html
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Manufacturing an Unpickable Lock
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I am on a mission to design an unpickable lock. Lock companies have become complacent, producing flawed designs. I want to make something that is not only secure but is designed with manufacturing in mind. In this video I discuss the manufacturability of the lock including manufacturing method and tolerancing. Finally, I order the metal lock and perform a demonstration.
How to Design an Unpickable Lock
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Welcome to an exciting journey into the world of lock design! In this video, I dissect the flaws of traditional pin and tumbler locks, exploring the vulnerabilities that make them susceptible to picking. Join me as we delve into designing a lock that addresses the challenges of both security and manufacturing head-on. Who knows? Maybe we'll end up creating something truly unpickable. The few qu...
the cardboard imperfections presentations was impressive. I think it's one of the better demonstrations I've seen
i know a guy on youtube who breaks any lock no matter how impossible that is he is for the lock like a rambo he destroy them within seconds
There's a video picking your new lock. Lol jk
Actually yes ruclips.net/video/D0mHl1_NYPw/видео.html
But have you tested it with another identical lock?
this lock can't thwart a wrecking ball flying into your front door though
“Unpickable” is an absolute - one that someone will achieve at some point to prove wrong. “Pick resistant” - I think you have achieved! Then again… Can you rake it? Yes, can you bump it? Yes, will it take longer? Yes! These attacks are regardless of the “watch dog pin“. They will if not open it by chance luck - produce some false positives. And some of those false positives could even be tested against a liece tool to sort out number combinations to use. Right until you get a possible positive, then record it. Wash, rinse, repeat, and then tried the combinations. These false positives rule out possible combinations to be excluded.
4:59 what if you just lower the comb a bit so the wafers line up?
It would then be like any other invalid key
The drawback of an unpickable lock is that if yah do something dumb like forgetting or dropping your key, you can't call a locksmith tp pick it up
Instead of adding inverse master topper pins to the top of the stack to prevent decoding, why not add random sized scrambler pins so that it decodes completely incorrectly? Would be a lot funnier if a decoding attack seemed possible but turns out to be one big waste of time. Plus it's simpler for manufacturing as you no longer have to make a specific topper for each stack. Great series by the way I really enjoyed it. There are companies out there who have entire departments working on each section of this project - concept, design, tolerances, printing, machining, costing through iterations and min/maxig price/quality etc. And here you are doing it as a one man show.
Can't call it unpickable unless you send it to lockpicking lawyer
we chain some trash cans at work and after we did not need them they lost the key. i ask if they need the locks back they said no so i grab a hammer and 1 swing they broke
I absolutely love this lock design, it’s simplicity, it’s ease of manufacturability, it’s thought about pin compatibility. However, your design I think may have one issue, your lock body might not be compatible with some lock housings because of how beefy your lock body is. So you might not be able to install your lock on some standard housings like an Abus housing or some other standard housings. I’d be interested to see if you could design your lock to be more flexible in this regard.
Both you and Bowley are excellent inspirations for security in these locks. Thanks to it contribution in the loch security space
I remember a lock on LPL, might have been a mod he did himself, where if you attempted to pick the lock and got it wrong, a wafer would drop into a slot and permanently jam the lock. I've always liked that approach because it leaves evidence of a break in attempt, as well as being virtually impossible to pick (equivalent to trying to guess a short password with only 1 attempt, you might get it, but almost definitely not)
Hopefully you patented this, otherwise masterlock has probably already stolen it and quashed it...
awesome video's fun and imformative but the problem with a unpickable lock is that if the lock is un pickable the window is still brickable or the wood door still crowbarable en the metal grindable, it's a good first defence but if people want to get in they will
Another idea - twist along the lenght.
I thought, that the locks are so poor, because the government agencies demanding access without leaving any traces.
@LockPickingLawyer?
Ingenious! Unfortunately it is practically impossible from a manufacturing/cost standpoint. Locks only stop honest people.
To bad bethesda already knew about this
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Send to lock picking lawyer
The problem with all this designs is that almost no bulgar enters a home with a picklock. They drill or open with force.
This might still be susceptible to dump attacks if your fast enough, it increases attempt time though
if someone can pick a lock, he can also use wire cutters and dertroy the lock. So if you dont have 200$ for some armored lock, than noone cares. Its more of a annoyance, than protection, but it still works. Also if your lock doesnt break, your chain will, and so on, ans so on. So if you like to be secure, just buy armored door.
Underrated
it's easy to design an unpickable lock. It's just not easy to design an unpickable lock that still works with the right key
There is no such thing as "unpickable lock", since for a person that really wants to pick a lock, they will find a way. The only way to have an unpickable lock, is to not have a door or entrance to your house. EDIT: That said, it is good to have a strong lock, so that it will be harder to break or lockpick it, since it will dissuade less persistent people from unlocking it.
What would happen if you heat up the lock to 100+ degrees celcius?
There in China and Japan there is a variety of sophisticated locks to choose from. My homehome entry back there have a key with 4 row of teeths, that is 20 cylinders. Major NorthAmerica HomeWare Seller is teaming up with thieves, I recon. And insurance company typically don't reimburse unless there is forced entry sign. The system is built to be corrupt I recon.
Why do I hear McNally's voice just from reading the title?
They sold an off the shelf solution for this that would use shims and lock the whole thing rendering it useless to the picker and homeowner.
I would like to suggest an easier to manufacture unpickable lock: The user opens or closes the lock by putting the key in the hole, and pushes an adjacent toggle switch up or down. The core of the lock is bolted or welded to the lock's stator or housing. The toggle pushes or pulls on a "snap action" mechanism, exactly like the inside of a light switch. The snap action mechanism spins the cylinder around the core. The cylinder, not the core, is connected to the deadbolt or latch. The reason the lock cannot be single pin picked is because the user cannot control how much tension/torque is applied to the cylinder - the "snap action" mechanism provides a manufacturer determined amount of torque.
Nothing is unpickable you can use an unpickable lock going 75k miles per second to open an unpickable lock
Question: if normal locks had much higher precision, lower tolerance, would that be harder to pick?
The walk back attack could be defeated by having a two section bolt.
Until the lock picking lawyer has given it a go, you can't be taken seriously calling your lock unpickable.
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it's unpickable, but not unstrikeable(i can't remember the exact name but it's the practice of hitting the lock so that the shock pushes the key pins up)
McNally will break that lock in a second with his voodoo magic
Oh i saw one very close to that design and it did was able to be picked with a tool i am not willing to disclose publicly
Send it to lock picking lawyer.
This is amazing! Keep it up, the design is cool and it would be amazing to see you iterate on it and collaborate with the locksport community to refine and simplify the design.
3d printed that exact same vice
It's a great vice
8:18 Yay Prusa. Happy printing!
If it takes LockPickingLawyer more than 15 seconds to pick a lock its considered basically unpickable
Make a metal prototype and send it to the Lock Picking Lawyer. If it can be picked, he'll do it.
I feel like the watchdog pin would need to be replaced every few years because the friction would wear it down
try gallium or other chemical attacks