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ATTN installer ERROR! READ THE INSTALLATION GUIDELINES. Where is your BALANCED RESISTOR? 😂😮😂

Did they make a difference?

Just saw this and had to give my 2 cents worth. I had a Pertronix conversion on the 232 in my Javelin for 20 years with nary an issue. My brother converted the stock distributor on his Buick 300 and burned out 2 ignition modules in short order till he swapped in the one he has now which is almost 2 years old without a hiccup. Last winter, I swapped an SBC Chevy Vortec into my Javelin and converted an old points distributor to electronic by way of an Accel conversion kit. It ran great until it didn't and I ended up on a flatbed on my way to my first cruise night of the season. I ended up connecting with a guy who has a large, well established speed shop on ebay and sells these "ready-to-run" distributors and matching coils - basically the same circuitry as in an HEI, but with a small base circle and the module is mounted in a metal box on the side. I asked him what the failure rate was and he told me he sells about 5,000 units a year and has about 20 of them fail and return. In this day and age, that sounded about as good as it gets, so I ordered one. All I can tell you is I put close to 1500 miles on it this year with zero problems. Will it last forever? I don't know... The internet poop on this stuff seems to be that you either get a good one and love it, or get a bad one and don't. It's all made off-shore, mostly China, and you buys your ticket and takes your chances. But before anyone gets on their high horse and threatens to go back to points distributors, let me remind you that there is a similar reliability issue with replacement condensers.

My Pertonix is hooked up properly, but the spark is very week. The coil is an Accel Super Stock, but the ohms resistance is the same as the Pertronix coil at 1.4 ohms. Any ideas?

damn, that makes me sad.... i have had that happen with MSD stuff (a lot) but my pertronix has been good... i carry a spare coil and points dist in my emergency kit though cause if something can die it will...

Had the same issue on my 66 mustang. Just died on me after a few miles

I can't stand Pertronix products. Lost faith going back to the Ignitor 1 Had several customers want then installed in their boats. I think I ended up removing more than I installed!

I love your garage. You are one lucky dude!

Bring back the interim system that showed up in the 60s: Transistor Assisted Ignition. Everything is the same including the stock distributor, points, and coil. Take out the condenser and the points provide the trigger for the electronic circuit and the power transistor starts and stops the current to the coil instantaneously. The point contacts last forever and the rise time is more instantaneous giving a stronger spark with the same stuff. I found it to help a lot with cold starts or if the battery is a little low. Also solves the problem of crappy condensers these days. I’ve had several new condensers fail within 500 miles. I don’t know if anyone making them other than Velmann the electronic kit company.

I had almost exactly the same failure with the distributor in my chevelle! I bought a MSD ready to run distributor & blaster 3 coil. Full 12V to the coil. One hot day the car lost all power, would only rough idle & would not accept any accelerator input. (I thought the fuel had boiled). After disproving a fuel issue, I started checking the ignition. Narrowed it to the distributor, pulled it out & had a friend test it on his machine. The results were it was an electronic issue where it would dump 12 degrees of timing or add it randomly. The mechanical advance was working fine. This part had less than 100 miles on it! I got it warranted but at this moment I’m running an ugly stock HEI & the car runs fine. It seems like there is a BIG quality control issue in the aftermarket right now. I’m hesitant to put the replacement MSD in the car. Thank you for your video!

fun, fun, fun...when ya own an old car! You just talked me out of a Per Tronix switchout on my '68 VW Ghia!

It really depends on the type of front end you have and if your tech is competent…unfortunately I’ve found that I’m far more skilled at aligning stuff then they are…all I use is squares, string and a bubble

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I'm in the DIY alignment camp. I have a Ford Ranger that had experienced some suspension damage. I replaced several suspension parts, including adding adjustable camber kits. The alignment shop claimed that they couldn't achieve the camber spec on one side. I took it home, and checked the adjusters. Plenty of camber adjustment left. I monitored tread wear for the next month or so, during which time I made a couple of long trips. I was getting excessive wear on the "out of spec" side. So I bought a pair of alignment plates, and did it myself. I dialed in all the specs easily. Tread wear is good and even now. It's a work truck... it's not that complex to align. While pro shops may be able to do better jobs, that is useful only if the tech is WILLING to do his job.

Shop Owner here, you can get them close at home on the floor, but the Lasers NEVER lie. Dial it in, save the tires and enjoy the ride!!!

Yes! I'm an alignment Tech. It's worth it. Saves hours.

My nova just started to sputter today and I’m think it’s the igniter II because I’ve had the same problem before. This would be my third pertronix install due to failures.

I find they last 3 weeks or forever. Sure looks nice, but not when they brick.

Looks and sounds awesome!

pertronix is garbage. 20 years ago I had the magnets fly out of a pertronix conversion. (the magnets in the ring were held in with tape) Never touched their junk since. I have a chinese (Amazon) electronic distributor in my Oldsmobile and it works great. It was 1/3 the price of pertronix

Look forward to seeing how she looks with the new kicks. I love this car, but I love your garage even more. I wish!

Love that stance. The color combo is great, too!

Safe to assume the truck now carries a "Rescue Kit" of stock Ford 360/390 ignition parts for when (er, IF) it fails!?!

I too had a Pertronix ignition conversion failure. I have a 1960 Chrysler 300F with an original Autolite IBS 4011 cast iron dual point distributor with mechanical tach drive that I installed the correct Pertronix conversion kit in, including the correct Pertronix Flame Thrower coil. The module failed while on a controlled access toll freeway. I had the car towed back to my driveway where I reinstalled the original dual point plate assembly and hardware along with the original coil as well. Boom, fired right up. Nobody else that I’ve spoken with has experienced any failures with Pertronix, except you! I agree, I will not be using Pertronix again. As I only drive this car to shows, I’m happy with the factory dual point system. Very reliable. I also do appreciate keeping the car as close to original as possible. I’m glad I found somebody else with the same problem, not that I wish the inconvenience of an ignition failure on anyone!

For anyone interested, the truck is still listed. Everything mechanical has been rebuilt. facebook.com/share/qvMaXtzaS7i2b2FH/

His loss

I'd buy that truck

Love the old shoeboxes!

Pertronix seems to have quite an active fanboy club. There’s no shortage of RUclips videos with people showing how they’ve been let down, and the comments are usually full of testimonials to how great their experience has been, as if that somehow cancels out your experience. Pertronix are lucky they have such a vocal support group covering for their substandard product.

You should've loosened the transmission mount nuts and lifted it some with a small jack and piece of 2x4 under the pan to give better clearance angle to pull the engine bottom studs out....be sure to do that when reinstalling and it'll go alot easier. The late 90's Outbacks are great, they just get messed up by people who don't know what they're doing. Also, the hood will go back fully vertical, just use a ratchet strap on the roof rack and the hood latch to hold it up....much room better for the lift and working in there. The torque converter bolts are easy without the intake on, but putting the intake on and connecting it up in the car is also a pain. On a manual the starter engages the flywheel, the auto & manual starters are different and not interchangable.

Sweet Shoebox 👍

Love it. I hope its turn is soon! **Now would be a good time to clean up the interior. Strip it and hose it out! So you’re not taking rodents or their mess into the garage. Just sayin’. I’d love to have this one.

At least there's good tunes on the media drive 😁 Also, my 2018 Lexus SUV will have the head unit crap out from time to time as well. Sadly, the head unit also controls climate, gps and all apps so when it goes out, everything is gone

We had one of those, glad to see this happing to it. Love the station wagon, beautiful.

Yep, same issues. I bought a Pertronix distributor with Ignitor 1 and the Pertronix 1.5 ohm oil filled coil. The coil lasted about an hour and then the engine died. I had it mounted to the cylinder head. So, I changed to a MSD epoxy filled Blaster coil and added a .7 ohm resistor to make the 1.5 ohm circuit resistance. It runs with 10 volts at the coil.

Sweet! my first car was a '50 Ford 4 door and later I got a 50 Ford tudor both were customs with the flat head V-8's boy I got to know those motors pretty well. fun car and easy to work on!

That front windshield is a thing of beauty

I'll bet you are using Factory Ford wiring which has 6-7 volts at the coil....YOU MUST HAVE 12 VOLTS AT THE COIL otherwise you will ruin these ignitor systems every time

I can't believe I spot a dual brake master cylinder. No one has such a beast for 66 TBird. Where and how did you find one ? Please let me know. TY

Well I ended up having to pull my Power break booster out to get the unit out from the top of the car as it would not drop out the bottom with out the use of a plasma cutter and believe me if I had one I would have used it. Any way, thank you so much for the video as I watched it like five times and now mine is ready to reinstall. God bless.

My gear box looks just like yours does, I have a '65 Tbird, There are a couple of different gear boxes. I followed my shop manuel and It just would not come out at all. I had to pull my power break booster to get it out! what a pain in the butt.

I had 3 of their points replacement kits fail on me. Hours wasted waiting for tow trucks. Wife hates my hotrod now! Back to points! Pertronix suck!

Those old T Birds were a BEAR to work on! Nothing is easy on those!

Just had the same issue. 70 Mustang with 351w stock distributor with Pertronix ignitor I and 40011 coil. Car was fine before putting away for the winter (Scotland, UK) took it out started great, idled fine then the engine just shut down, I suspected the coil (after reading about failures being common), I have replaced the coil with another 40011, haven’t had a chance to try it out because winter is back (that’s Scotland for you). I have had the Pertronix fitted for nearly 4 years, this is the first issue I’ve had, but I’m not confident in reliability now, I will carry points and a coil in car from now on, seriously considering going back to points but will need to look at this my resistor wire was ‘toast’ so I have a bypass in and 12v to the coil, no idea how long points would last with this. Pertronix has a large following for these cars they should really focus on reliability because they are great systems when they work. I will be interested is any similar alternatives.

Having the same issues .

Replaced points and coil in my 66 mustang 20 years ago with pertronix and their flame thrower coil. Over 100k miles. 289 2 barrel automatic. Never misses a beat. Added a Jacob's to it and the Jacob's quit on me after 1.5 years. Now have an MSD on top of the same old 20 year old pertronix and flame thrower. Works great!

After 10 years of a billet 2 flame thrower in my car I ended up taking off the cap and it is all rusted. Except the ignitor 2! I ended up trying to take some of the rusted parts off and working on them. The one thing that came to my attention was the lead ground. I basically just fell apart. I was having some starting problems and throttle problems. This was the the biggest problem I have seen with it. Check the lead ground connecting the ignitor to a base plate.

Thanks for the Pertronix info ! My new Pertronix distributor & Coil on my rebuilt 289 just left me stranded and I hope I can return this crap to Jegs.

Thanks for the Pertronix info ! My new Pertronix distributor & Coil on my rebuilt 289 just left me stranded and I hope I can return this crap to Jegs.