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Yes!!! Without eggs is the best way. Baba’s were the most tender I have ever had.

An excellent recipe book is Traditional Ukrainian Cookery, by Savella Stechishin. Her peroheh (great try at trying to get the right sound, @Boo boo Weezlz!) Pyrohy dough recipe is fantastic! I use 1 egg yolk with 1 tablespoon melted Crisco per each batch of dough. Just reading the cookbook is wonderful. Everyone who wants to cook authentic Ukrainian food should have a copy in their kitchen!!!

@@truecynic1270 I have that cookbook.

My Polish, Ukrainian paternal immigrant grandmother, also used eggs in her pierogy dough, along with oil, (Mazola corn oil), salt, water and all purpose flour.

@@truecynic1270 where can you find the book at a reasonable price? I only found copies that were over $100! yikes! Can't do that now due to some health expenses this year... do you know of a cheaper source? thx!

@@cindyp2181 Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, my copy is old - and my mother is the one who bought it for me, thirty (?) years ago. Now this might be too much to do but I wonder if contacting any Ukrainian-Catholic or Orthodox churches in your area ( or any area at all ) and see if (a) they ever have any rummage sales including books or (b) asking them to put up a notice on the community board that you're someone looking for a copy and would be willing to buy a used book someone no longer needs or wants. Sometimes ( really occasionally) libraries will cull their collections so you might want to try your local library system to see if there's any chance........and one more thought . Have you tried contacting any Ukrainian senior citizen's home, etc. Again, you might see if they would put up a notice on your behalf trying to locate a copy. Sometimes , like my mother, or Baba would buy several copies of the book to give to grandchildren /children. Maybe there's a family that is in that situation. (?) Places collecting donated books (stuff) like Goodwill or Value VIllage , although a long shot, you might try. Maybe posting on your Facebook or looking on Facebook or kijji might work. I can't believe someone would charge over $100.00 for it, but it really is a fantastic resource. If I can think of anywhere else, I'll let you know. Last thought, have you tried any of the used book stores in the US. They might be able to help or keep an eye out for a copy. PS. Thank you for telling me it's worth something! Now I'll sleep with it under my pillow!!!!

You're wrong about that! A ton of cultures have these

People from western Ukraine called it pyrohy (sounds like peddoheh). Many of them settled in Saskatchewan and Alberta.

Great try to make the word sound more like it is.....in English the spelling is Varenyky but you're right, you're a bit closer. I'd try Varenekie/Vareneky but people also forget to roll the 'r" , the 'a' is an 'ah" , the 'e' short

@@incensejunkie7516 You're cute!! but the pronunciation needs to have that rolled "r" as in "peRRRRRoheh!!

Varenyky is the Russian term for it I thought. In some parts of Ukraine there is Russian influence in the language. Western Ukraine keeps more traditional Ukrainian language

I was reading the comments and it’s cool cause, I live 40 minutes from Winnipegosis. Love the recipe, thank you.

We used the term "peddaheh" and I often wondered if it was because my bubba was from Lviv- sort of like Polukey accent!!! And when I pronounce it like that Ukrainians in the midwest act like they have no idea what I'm saying?

So much depended upon in which region of the Ukraine you were born. Most Western Ukrainians used the word "peroheh" or varenyky ( the correct word meaning "cooked" and used in the 'more educated cities" ) Pierogy is Polish and according to history, the western Ukraine was often the focus of territorial wars, being bandied back and forth between Poland and Russia with some Ukrainians trying to make it Ukraine! The fight was really for all the excellent growing soil in the Ukraine - the 'bread basket" of the world which grew excellent wheat.................. the name hasn't changed at all over the years!!!!!!

@@truecynic1270 My paternal grandparents were from Galicia. My maternal grandfather was from Poland. My only Canadian born grandparent, had parents from Czechoslovakia. I never remember her making pierogies, even though her husband was from Poland, and was Polish.