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People don't know Flat characters and when don't know flat characters they think superman is boring

It is indeed rare to find a hero who "wins" through compassion and positive emotions rather than simply through violence (which both good and evil employ).

Its simple they should just give this character to marvel

I eish marvel had this character

Dc is shit

Everyone’s doing deconstructions of Superman to the point where it would actually be more subversive to have Superman be a genuinely kind person who actually wants to help people. Though the DCEU’s employment of Zack Snyder is one of the reasons why I wondered if DC ever had any intention of making their cinematic universe work or if this was some kind of elaborate The Producers-style scheme all along. Because first, they hire Zack Snyder, a raging Objectivist who has openly expressed contempt for idealistic heroes on numerous occasions, to direct a film about the most idealistic hero of them all. But okay, that movie has its defenders. I’m not one of them but still. Then he does Batman v. Superman and in doing so, manages to take an inherently cool concept and screw up so badly that it crosses the line into “HOW?! How did you screw up this badly?!” Credit where credit is due: this is proof that Zack Snyder has some talent as a director, because a screwup on this level takes more than mere incompetence to happen. But even after Snyder screwed up that badly, DC was still like, “Let’s bring him back to do our big team-up picture.”

💯 society now sees superman the way villans do. The way Lex sees him or how Bill sees him In KillBill vol2.

If you follow any big news recent years future seems pretty bleak, so we need hero like the real superman to give us some hope

I’m definitely not as knowledgeable as you on the topic of superman. But as a human I think injustice makes sense. We’ve seen fathers kill their family’s murders before. And we’ve seen how Batman dealt with having superman’s powers. So the twist to make superman a dictator worked. Even as a dictator he strived to do what’s right.

It's very easy to just say "he does the right thing every single time" but it is effectively meaningless because superman does not exist. In reality, he does whatever the fallible human writers want him to do every single time.

My live action Bruce Wayne Ranking 7. George Clooney 6. Robert Pattinson 5. Val Kilmer 4. Adam West 3. Ben Affleck 2. Michael Keaton 1. Christan Bale

My live action Batman Ranking 7. George Clooney 6. Val Kilmer 5. Ben Affleck 4. Michael Keaton 3. Adam West 2. Robert Pattinson 1. Christan Bale

My live action Clark Kent Ranking 6. Henry Cavill 5. Brandon Routh 4. Tom Welling 3. Dean Cain 2. Tyler Hoechlin 1. Christopher Reeve

My live action Superman Ranking 6. Dean Cain 5. Brandon Routh 4. Henry Cavill 3. Tom Welling 2. Tyler Hoechlin 1. Christopher Reeve

Superman hasn't really been portrayed correctly for the most part since Christopher Reeve or the 90s animated and live action series. The only two recent actors that have portrayed him correctly I feel have been Tyler Hoechlin and Tom Welling. Superman stands for truth, justice and the american way or better tomorrow. No other actor has brought that except Tyler Hoechlin and Tom Welling. So I hope David Corensweat will be the next one. Superman has been dark, yes. But he's a better character when he's more bright and joyful, which separates him from Batman. Superman was not all that different from Batman in the DCEU. So I hope that changes in the upcoming DCU.

All Star Superman is my favorite interpretation atm

I don’t much like the sequels, but u we’re a little unfair with the pilot points, anakin built his own pod racer and was a slave to a guy who solos ship parts, he was obviously smart for his age and would of had access to learn from the customers, Rey scavenged big ships, and it’s likely she would of learned in some capacity how to fix things, showing up Han Solo was going too far, I just don’t like seeing people be unreasonable about something cause it’s bad for other reasons, like Rey using the force with no training was complete bull

Exactly!!!!

Character Luke is great, Actor Luke sucks.

Even Batman is not so great when he's always too dark, for a while in the comics he became too much of an asshole to the point he was unlikable. Which is why Batman Animated Series was so great because he was a well balanced out character who could smile, laugh, make jokes, give thumbs up, compassionate, empathetic, caring, but still can be dark and brutal. DCAMU, 2004, Brave And The Bold, and Under The Red Hood are all good Batmans as well.

Fire edit 🔥

In the original pulp comics of the 40s Batman would kill

Hey honestly watch my adventures with Superman trust they gave the character justice

I don’t think Superman would become a dictator either but there was a line either in the game or the comic where Bruce confronts Superman over what he did saying he experienced his parents death but would never cross the line to which Superman told Bruce “you weren’t the gun” and I think that adds to his reasoning personally

31:59 false. No its not

Man. You dont understand the character. This video is so embarassing.

28:05 yes its original. 28:09 kingdom come? Wtf are you Saying?

28:00 false. You don't understand superman guy

This video is so false

27:23 27:28 false

15:18 snyderverse superman kills joker? This is false. Wtf are you talking about?. Snyder Superman becomes evil because of the anti Life equation...not for lois death.

This movie sucks

This movie sucks. We dont need movie like the batman. It's horrible.

I became a Superman fan because of the WB cartoon show. It was awesome.

So of course Rian Johnson had to come and ruin it, because we can't have nice things.

Note, they never tell him to "kill Vader" that what Luke assumes. They tell him to face/confront Vader. It's a subtle but important difference in the dialogue. Part of Luke's "failure" is assuming that "confront" means to kill.

It’s way harder to inspire someone than it is to make them feel like shit. I really admire those who aim to inspire

You said you are a Superman hardcore fan, why is Plot Armor man aka Batman your favorite ? I don't get it.

Man of steel and Batman v Superman and Zack Snyder’s Justice league made me understand Superman. I never understood him before those movies. They were great interpretations that made me understand him and I’m so happy for it

Action Comics with Aaron Kuder was some of the best Superman to release after the new 52. It was a throw back to the light hearted silver age one off adventures and Kuder’s art was beautiful.

in his mind the joker needed to die, which by the way isnt wrong, whats wrong is allowing the joker to continue to kill more people knowing he is going to escape for the 100th time "but but thats vigilantly justice" well, so is putting on a costume and fighting crime. now, going full dictator, that was wrong, dictatorships always end poorly. should have stopped at the joker.

I doubt Superman fans understand Goku.

I think what you’re missing is that injustice didn’t do it “wrong” it’s just a what if scenario or a different adaptation. Not every Superman adaptation is going to stay true to the traditional character. It’s okay to see Superman as dark and gritty. I think a lot of these hardcore fans are just upset with a different adaptation of their favorite character.

Luke was always the anti masculine hero. He chose love over hate in the end and defeated an empire by throwing his weapon to the ground

Went in excited, then I found out what you’re really about.. damn….

Well, thank you for validating my thoughts.

Fun Fact: The only time Batman has not killed in live action was in Batman & Robin.

Most heroes defeat the villain. Luke saved him🐐

I liked that Zack's Superman was more realistic, Krypton was a believable planet. I liked that they changed the suit, but would have liked they lighter blue to stay. When Superman is hit by bullets, or has a car bounce off his back, you see his head or body move with the impact, which is something that almost never happened before. I loved Man Of Steel, i just wish they had, or had not done a few things.