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Would 300 ohm ladder line work ? I ask because that’s what I have on hand .

Well I watched this video 2 years ago and finally got my loop put up. Here is how I calculated my loop. Bought 1000' of wire, buddy wanted 250', and I strung up the rest! Made kind of a diamond shape up at 30-50 feet fed from a corner with 600 ohm ladder line. Works better than anyone on these websites and studies led me to believe. Works good from 160-10 with my balanced tuner. Only run 100 watts. On 20 meters lots of times I only need to run 5 watts to break pileups. Yes there are probably nulls on transmit but I really don't think so on receive. I can hear what seems like everything which is a good and bad thing at times! 73

Back in the late 1960s, in Australia, and probably because it was expensive building, powering and maintaining remote UHF or VHF repeaters, government organisations and mining companies would install passive repeaters just like the reflectors near your camp ground atop ridges preventing line of sight communications. My personal experience is that you can sometimes point Yagi antennas tuned for the very low band mobile phone network frequencies (say 800 MHz) at large, shiny, rock boulders and achieve the same results and pretty decent data rates, out in the Australian bush. Beats the hassle of installing something (illegally) on adjoining public land!

I'm interested doing one of these in my backyard... I will only be able to get it up 28-30' at most. Would i be better of going with an EFHW or an OCFD???

Excellent! Ty!

Brilliant synopsis. 73 ZS5TC

Good stuff. This was going to be my next attempt at a low noise antenna for urban apartment deployment. The comments back it up. I am currently running the DX Commander 12.4 Signature vertical and a 130 foot EFHW with Vhameleon Hybrid Mini as my two antennas. The vertical transmits better, but the wore receives better, at least on the low bands.

Very good step by step hints thanks

I have used a full wave 80m loop fed with a 2:1 current balun at the feed and RG214 coax to the rig and it is an outstanding performer. I did have open wire line for a while but when it broke I switched to balun and coax. No difference. Also when the copper wire on the loop eventually broke I went to thin Stainless cable. After some adjustments it worked great. Cheers VK5LB

Wonderful material and well presented. I enjoyed this video very much. Thank you for posting.

Really informative video, thank you. 73, Jonathan M0XXJ

I have always heard that loops tune up all the band going higher in frequency. It is Dipoles that get every other. I could be wrong.

I use a 264 ft rectangular loop, height at each of the 4 corners varies, I worked 50+ countries on SSB this past winter alone, using any/all bands. Only need the external antenna tuner on 40 and 17 meters, others load up easily. Loops are great but take a load of experimentation.

Thanks for sharing that video Ed. I'm in the beginning stages of designing/installing a Full Wave Loop of my own. As you, I have wanted to try one of these for years....and have just recently gained access to enough space to make it happen. 73 from a former Woodway Sr. High School Alumni......the old Woodway Sr. High that is no longer. 73 de Chris WA7RAR

I've used a full wave horizontal loop cut for approximately 40m. Antenna elements were connected to 450ohm ladder line, into my shack, ladder line into a 4:1 voltage balun, then into an LDG IT-100 then into my IC-718. It worked really well, was more quiet than a vertical, enabled some great DX as well as good regional (200-300mi) comms. I'm getting ready to put up another one that I intend to connect directly at the feedpoint of the loop to the antenna lug and ground lug of an Icom AH-3 remote tuner, then a short coax run into my IC-718. I'm curious if anyone else feeds their horizontal loop this way...

I used a 144 ft loop with the "Q" section of 75 Ohm coax transfromer and 50 Ohm Coax feed to the shack. Low SWR across 40M amd high angle for strong signals out to around 500 miles, averaged 2 S units better than a halfwave dipole at the same height above ground. Have plenty of antennas for the other bands. 73...K8JD

Uncle Guenter waving a hand into WA-State, hope to make a contact with you P2P. 👍🙋‍♂

Great video! I'm gathering all the materials to do a horizontal loop, covert, in the woods, hopefully no one will see it! It's kind of my last option now, but hopefully it will be the solution!

Very nice presentation and interesting to see. Thanks all! 👍📻⚡️

Whaaaat..you stole the information and pictures? That isn't fair at all... H I! I love Wire Antennas and always willing and ready to try out a new configuration to setup. Keep up the Good Work. 73's de Your FRiend Uncle Guenter from the German Frontier

I use a 265 foot rectangle, corner feed, 4:1 balun , 450 ohm ladder line 20 feet up on metal poles. I have worked the world with this, out performs my 2 element 20 meter beam, verticals and long wire.

The answer is still 42. Because the original question wasn’t a number question.

Switch the copper antenna wire for 316 stainless, it'll drop the SWR even more.

Thank you Roger for getting us started with gridtracker. My new favorite video!

So I'm on a hill, would the loop be parallel with the ground? Or actually level horizontally? Said another way, would it be ~50' off the ground at each corner? Or would it be 50' off the ground at at least 1 corner, but greater than 50' at the low point in my yard? I think that it's supposed to be level horizontally.

Looking at that spectrum analysis, a 9:1 unun will work better, I tried a 4:1 and got the same analysis, I had forgotten that a 4:1 transformer is for coax fed loop, if you use ladder line your at 450, 460 ohm at the feed, so you need a 9:1 unun transformer, just three wire turns on the ferrite core, instead of 2, I don't even use a tuner. 0 sweet on all bands, zero losses, try it next time

Salmon run 2020, cool I was there also, hopefully will be there this year again!!! I did the same antenna setup at home. full wave delta, fed at the end, fed with homemade ladder line, about 460 ohm, except whith a 9:1 transformer and I get 0 ohms all across the bands, 👍 N3WUB

i've tried this loop skywire, it works very good

Wow, just realised I hadnt Subscribed, soon fixed that :-)

My pleasure to meet you all and share some of my DXpedition adventures. Cheers best 73 & DX from New Zealand....