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The video is outdated since a while. I've made it in the first week of Marduk's release iirc. Yes, in general FC d/f+1+2 is optimal there and if you time it perfectly, you get 20 extra dmg from the impact on the ground and the opponent can't tech-roll there (it's a 2f window, but it's sounds harder than it is). I'm now loaded with work and I'm also writing all the guides and info sheets for the Tekken Discord servers. Once I've finished that, I'll most likely start to do proper Tekken content, as I honestly have a lot of stuff to share, especially things that aren't (well-) known and important on a larger scale, when talking from a competitive perspective. Thank you for still taking your time to comment here and basically updating this video in a sense :D I hope that I'll be able to record those videos until the end of the year. Wish you a great day and stay safe out there!

@@FasAnX Thank you so much for replying detailed

The reason for this wall-combo is coming of it's frame advantage. After you did a wall-combo, depending on the wake-up option your opponent does, you're going to have a frame advantage and disadvantage, which can very greatly depending on the wall combo. In the TZ Discord channel, under #Master-Raven, in the pins, you can find a whole list of those frame-advantages for all different kinds of wall-combos from Master Raven. For comparison I'll just list those 2 wall-combos you are talking about: W! BT 3+4; (low wall hit) u/f+3+4,4,2 (34 wall-combo dmg at 30% scaling) -> -7 on wake-up kicks -> +16g on techroll -> stand-up options: -> +17g on holding d/b -> +17g on tapping u -> +14g on holding b W! BT b+2,3; b+2,2,3 (29 wall-combo dmg at 30% scaling) -> +10 on wake-up kicks -> +18g on techroll -> stand-up options: -> at least +25 on all stand-up options Wake-up kick speed -> wake-up 3 (low kick) is i22 (counts for FUFT and FDFT) -> wake-up 4 (mid kick) is i22 (counts for FUFT and FDFT) -> wake-up d+3 (toe-kick) is i13 (only from FUFT useable) -> wake-up 3+4 (jump kick) is i19 (only from FUFT useable) As you can see the second combo does less dmg (still very high wall-dmg in comparison to many other characters), but it has always the better frame-advantage. Especially the wake-ups are important here, as we're -7 with the BnB wall-combo, if the opponent does a wake-up kick. With the second combo, we're at +10, in which case we can use every 22f or faster move to beat every wake-up kick option. Also: With the second combo we always have a true 50/50 on the opponents wake-up. Overall: I primarily use the BnB wall-combo, because the dmg is just that good. If I want to force a 50/50 on wake-up or if I want big pressure at the wall, I go for the second one (example: W! BT b+2,3; b+2,2,3 wall-combo -> do b+3+4; BT 3,4 -> as long as your opponent doesn't stay on the ground, he'll either block it or get hit by it. On block it's 0, so you can keep on pressuring etc. just do stuff like that). I hope this is helpful to you!

Like mentioned under "dboypompeyreturns" comment: I did it right (set the CPU to toe-kick and you'll be interrupt). I have another video, where I showcase this scenario, while inputting it too fast. This will result in f,F+3 to not spike. Prince Fatalis made a video about it yesterday, explaining it further, also check out his channel for more Leo stuff: ruclips.net/video/VZm8RhgKh-c/видео.html

Ggs. Yeah, wanted to pick up Marduk again after working on Leo and Maven for months :D

Sry about the late answer (forgot about it). Yes I was fast enough, it's just isn't guaranteed (set the CPU to toe-kick and you'll be interrupt). Prince Fatalis made a video about it, explaining it further, also check out his channel for more Leo stuff: ruclips.net/video/VZm8RhgKh-c/видео.html

Sry for the late response. Yes you can. It only depends on how far the wall is away from you after you wall-splatted them. You only need enough time to do Sidestep and Ground-throw, so that you can get the Ground-throw from your opponent right/left side.

Thx :) I hope to find and make more quick vid for her. Upcoming video will be about Leo though :D

@@FasAnX does BT 2,3+4; work as well after the jump?

Sadly no. It should, but the problem is that the landing frames of the big jump eats your inputs. That means: Even when you hold b after landing and do BT b+2,3 the game will register it as a BT 2. I will go further into it in another video (measuring landing frames and how many input frames it eats up etc.)

Recovery kick (so grounded d+3). Found that out in a fight, so I investigated further. I will check all the options and if you can do something else, to prevent getting hit by it.

@@FasAnX bok 1?

Yeah that was my second guess, to prevent them doing recovery kick. I will upload an updated video in the next 24h about the things you can do after f,F+3

Yes. I will make a note on that part. 👍

Ok annotations aren't possible anymore, but I made a infocard at 1:31 with a link to the patch changes (for Marduk&Law). Also added it to the description.

@@FasAnX ❤

Great vid nonetheless

Thx :)

Thx man👍

no problem :D