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Loved the video and i believe this is Wilbur smiths least good book. Though i have a theory of why this one & Pharaoh are inconsistent is because he became more ill and then has to rely on co-authors for the rest of his stories, everything after 2015 is co-authored. Sad reality. That being said i still read his books because i can turn my brain off and enjoy an adventure.

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Thank you for saving me from this. Your commentary also highlights the pitfalls to avoid when fictionalizing ancient settings

Came from Bart. Great stuff

I wonder if it's a carry over from the leather strip/skirt armor. Fighting legions are often depicted wearing knee high strapped sandals and a leather "skirt" made up of long overlapping leather strips that fall just above the knee, and bronze or steel greaves from knee to ankle. I suspect they didn't wear that when not on campaign.

Your podcast remains a total delight!

First couple of minutes discussing herbal tea. Then a couple of minutes on Scandinavian food, in which the only slight curiosity aroused is when Lexi mentions eating reindeer meat but then fails to tell us what it is like. By the time of the first mention of the book this is supposed to be about, around 4 minutes in, I suspect half the audience have left. Fine to include some chatty personal details, but I would include some pointers as to what this will be about earlier on.

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It seemed to me that the film producers were trying to reinterpret the Iliad and Posthomerica by demythologizing them. I was wondering if you thought there might have been a better way for them to demythologize the story, and if so what improvements/changes should they have made?

I've enjoyed a lot listening to you! I'm sorry you had to suffer through this movie but thank you for telling us NOT to watch it. Hope the next one isn't as terrible!

Helen, Castor, Pollux and Clytemnestra were hatched from eggs. Zeus was the father of Helen and Pollux. I hadn’t studied the Iliad in a very long time, but your podcast triggered a lot of memories. There is lot of backstory in the myths, including Peleus helping Priam to build the walls of Troy.

Theseus did kidnap Helen in "real" mythology. He and his friend, whose name I don't remember, decide to kidnap themselves some wives. T wants Helen, so they go get her. The friend wants Persephone, so then they go to Hades, but there they get super glued to a couple of stone chairs. Some time later Heracles comes by, and pulls T out of his chair, leaving his behind behind, still stuck to the chair. H is unable to rescue the friend, however. Then T gets home, he finds that Helen is gone. Yes, the timing doesn't make any sense, but that's the way it is with Greek myth.

You talk as though talkies had just been invented in 2003.

I think it would be interesting to do a version strictly from Penelope's point of view. Particularly since she has no idea if and when Odysseus will return. I don't know how you would do that in a way that the audience doesn't know, either, since they will know what they are watching. I don't know how to do it so the audience doesn't know, but it might be able to do that.

If I'm not mistaken, the movie Troy more or less streamlines all your woes about the characters and the gods ! I think it was a marvelous adaptation, where even Achilles manages to not be such a bratty child-warrior.

Same here

Heard of this on Bart Ehrmans podcast so I paused and came over here to sign up.

I can't wait for this episode! And that was a great live stream today, Megan!

Paris in Troy is one of the top undeserving heroes in modern cinema. 😂 Enjoyed this so much! Thank you!

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Hehe Troy is going to be a whole different tone from Wrath Goddess :-)

Notes on "who Helen is". One note is that Helen at least has moods (if not "feelings"). I'm more with the Sarah Palin than the Melania Trump comparison for that. She is on the coat tails, but she definitely has a personal stake and she definitely goes out on her own to goad Achilles and abuse people she loves. Her power maybe borrowed (?) but its' very real. Or I missed lots of stuff? (which I did with my 2:00am CANT PUT IT DOWN hours) Thank you!

I did love the representation that the Gods were real to people living then. Achilles denies the existence of the gods at first but most people seem less dismissive of her than they are "ummm ok, good luck with that". Everyone else accepts the unknowable and uncontrollable. The fights to seem abrupt but from all I understand of real combat, it tends to be that way. Star Wars duels are.... Cinematic. Real duels tend to end fast.

This reminds me a lot of some post Vietnam psycho-symbolic novels, I remember one I read in a college course on fantasy lit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_After_Cacciato That had a very internal/external barrier blur

More Dang, I still have 60 pages left. I'm not surprised by trippy childbirth though.

Dang, all my comments disappeared with the re-upload 🙂 That will teach me to be first (which NEVER do)

Well this is exciting. Thanks for the tea! Hear you next week.

I also am entirely crushed in my aspiration to write murder mysteries and RPG campaigns set in Ur3-MB Mesopotamia. There's *so* much going on that Maya gets and that I don't have a lifetime to understand. Never going to happen. (not that I'm not going to keep learning)

Starting right off: Yes, this was TOTALLY unexpected and the gradual discovering that the gods are real and *how* they are real.