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2:20 hawk tuah refrence

I dint get the fight between Washington and Adam's. Can someone please explain?

The anti- debt comments are fascinating and perplexing. Hamilton has been proven correct. Government debt allows for growth. The US remains wealth partly because it has never defaulted. People want to buy dollars. This makes it unique in the world. As long as it makes its payments it benefits. Why do you think China so wants to sell BRIC? But what investor would trust a command economy that is known to manipulate its currency, something the U.S. wisely does not do. Jefferson has turned out to either be a impractical idealist, a person who uses the contradictions of life to brow beat others for his own self aggrandizement, or a hypocrite(see his treatment of his slaves Sally Hemings). Jefferson had a gift of eloquence but a dirth of ethics and empathy.

I really didn’t get the animosity Washington showed Adams in this scene. It was subdued but it was clear to everyone in that room. I would have thought these two would have been more well-mannered and settled their differences privately.

_'Mr. President', and nothing more..."_

I rather like the way Washington listens but does't speak in this scene, dignified and ornamental and not unaware that he is out of his depth in the assembled company.

Focus on the people walking around in the background and you wont be able to hear them.

Contrary to the hip-hop mythos, Hamilton was a duplicitous, manipulative operator slinking into the background of history and accomplishing little more than promoting a money-focused, debt-reliant society.

Never watched the series. Why does washington look like a moron here?

I loved this series. If only they continue it with the same cast and different focus each season. Like 1st season Adams, 2nd season Jefferson then Franklin then Washington then Hamilton…

1:54. Literally predicted the exact foundation of what would later become the American Civil War. An impoverished south rebelling against a wealthy industrial north.

Rufus Sewell is an amazing actor.

Why Adams was not allowed to sit in cabinet

*God the casting in this show was perfect and could not have been better*

Great example of a conversation between a pragmatist (Hamilton) and an idealist (Jefferson).

I thought these guys were black?

Was Jefferson a Freemason ?

Hamilton is a fascinating and complex character, one who inspired polarizing sentiments in his time, and, increasingly, in ours. A fair historical assessment of him is something of a challenge. Although there is much that I disagree with him-even when accounting for the peculiarities of his historical/cultural context-he turned out to be quite the visionary in public administration. His many flaws do not diminish his important role in defining sound economic foundations for the young country, to which we may credit the stability and success of a fairly new political experiment. It is frightening to consider what could have happened if he had had his way all of the time (he was dead wrong in so many issues), but when he did, it was to the benefit of posterity, as time would prove. I sometimes get the feeling that it was to the U.S.’s good fortune that Hamilton succeeded in so many of his endeavors, and that he failed in so many others.

How could Washington crap all over Adams like that? Intelectually, he was equal to Hamilton and Jefferson.

Jefferson was right

Washington just wanted to go home and grow some peppers .

Imagine what Jefferson would think now with the Federal government $36 trillion in debt

very admirable and jaw dropping when understanding the tension- the founding fathers really had staunch resentment towards one another (Adams, Jefferson, and Hamilton typically). Yet they were really good friends as well, keeping strong bonds as they built the country and framed our destiny as a revolutionary nation.

Interestingly, enough, this conversation did not happen in Philadelphia but New York City.

And the democrats say theyre the natural descendants of Jefferson haha

George Washington is the dad driving the car, listening to his two teen boys argue in the backseat. John Adams is the middle child being spoken over and then mediates.

Hamilton leading this nation to its predictable and inevitable financial crisis…..

The beauty of this scene it is underlining the tension of between Hamilton and Jefferson and although Washington silent but observing studying and will not say or act yet until prudent and Adams trying to male necieties hoping to still have the two at least compromise for the greater good. Yet those differences seemed for now limited may burst open years later to a bloody divided nation.

Founding Fathers must be turning in their graves now. SCOTUS just restored the monarchy in the US.

wtf THEY ARENT RAPING!! *badum tsh* :,D

Hamilton did the real politik . Jefferson as a farmer having cash flow issues did not understand international economics or trade or mercantilism. Still he kept the presidency from federalist Burr his rival throwing the election to Jefferson . Perhaps he taught Jefferson a few things . And kept adams and burr from the possible reapproachmont with England. A little issue of federal assumption of state debts and the repayment of revolutionary loans to Holland France and Spain made the US credit worthy. Not paying debts is the problem paying debts is an expanding capital idea. One should not expand the former too rapidly nor ask for credit before dispensing with the old debt.

*John Adams leaves* Starts singing his own version of The Room Where It Happens.

I'm with Hamilton. Sorry Jeffersonians.

And then, in 1913, the FED was created.

Right after this scene Hamilton went into body Jefferson in a rap battle

John Nance Gardner [ one of FDR's VPs ] thought the office of VP wasn't "worth a bucket of warm spit."

""Effectively these are some of the fundamental and foundational ideological differences between the origins of the Democrat (known at the time as "Federalist") and Republican ("Democratic-Republican") parties." I'm sorry, but the Republican Party was not birthed until the 1850's, coming in as the Whigs died out. The Democratic-Republicans shortened their name to the Democratic Party when the newly birthed Republican Party proved it was not going away. You have it sorely wrong.

From day one the office of the Vice President was crap. Still is.

I learned I'm related to Alexander Hamilton. Jefferson believed in a society build around farming. He didn't realized, of course, that technology ( the Industrial Revolution going foward to our tech today) would change society so that very few would be farming in the near future. Trade is essential when it's fair and Hamilton knew this.

Jefferson knew that a Federal Bank was a bad idea

Not anymore

Ah. Good thing that avarice & corruption thing TJ mentioned never took hold. 🙄

Washington by being silent, showed the reality of the saying "You cannot hear if your are talking."

I agree with Jefferson on the limited role of the federal government, with Hamilton on the disaster of the French Revolution, with Adams that the government should not favor the North over the South, and with Washington that both Jefferson and Hamilton should stfu and eat.

Do you recommend the caster wheels you are using? They look like the ones from CasterHQ if I'm not mistaken. Looking to get some larger wheels for my cart build as well.

Jefferson was a paranoid nutcase!

Hope you're back to work by now! I'm a DP and have been carrying my Inovativ cart in my van, but I've been wanting to build out a cart using 8020 extrusions. Can you share a reason why you decided to build it this way instead of going with Voyagers which seem to be more popular among the DIT's? It's obviously more fashionable and better IMO.

My students thought the debate was most exciting and informational. (And by that I mean they hated it).

Meanwhile "Hamilton" is the most popular play on Broadway. Anyone with any sense of history would recognize adams and Hamilton were just god awful