You gotta do the leg kick when pulling the prop. Gives you extra pull speed on the prop I guess. All the vintage footage I remember seeing them use a leg as they spun the prop
1200 RPM ignition on...and all other RPM ignition off coasting with two stroke flooding with castor oil and gas blowing out the cylinder heads. BIP BIP BIP BIP
I'm confused, all the parts look brand new restored or replaced. Y'all said the engine has not run since 1918 and that statement would imply its the original engine with original parts, at least in my thinking anyway. This seems to not be what I see. Anyway, regardless, its an awesome plane and great work getting it airworthy.
@@tedvolz9674 They were built under license in Pennsylvania, and more were built than were used. The extra engines were sold surplus on the civilian market in the 1920s, and a few managed to survive, probably in someone's garage or shed, until they became valuable and were kept by collectors. This one ended up with a collector in the southern US, who had it for several decades I think, before deciding to pass it on to someone else, and selling it to John, the owner of the Fokker Triplane.
A technical question. Not that a game is necessarily the gold standard for accuracy, but “Ace of Aces” was otherwise fairly well-researched. In this game, rotary-engined planes enjoyed a particular performance advantage in that the mass of the rotating engine, turning counterclockwise from the point of view of the pilot, made snap turns to the right much faster. Your engine turns clockwise as the pilot sees it, which should improve snap turns left. Was the disconnect in the game mechanics, the direction your engine turns vs. original engines used in this model aircraft, or in my understanding of inertia?
This is another of the myths that have grown around the rotary engine. It is effectively a gyroscope, which reacts at 90 degrees to the applied force. In a level turn the force will react in a vertical vector. In a right turn the reaction will be in the nose down direction, this makes it easier to maintain or gain speed, which will result in a quicker turn. In a left turn the nose will try to rise which would lower the airspeed and make for a slower turn. So it becomes easier to make a tighter right turn than a left one, but the difference is not as much as the legends and myths claim.
@@rustygunner8282 Banking or rolling is along the longitudinal axis of the aircraft, which would not incur the gyroscopic force, so actual rate of roll with the ailerons making input would still be a little better to the left, but this is different from rate of turn which does incur the gyroscopic force.
I am curious as to why you still use Castor Oil in the engine as it has now been superseded by better performing lubricants based on mineral oil formulations.
@@joevalicenti2722 Since the fuel and oil are both sprayed into the crankcase castor oil has an advantage as a vegetable oil over a mineral oil in that it resists mixing with the fuel and reducing its lubricating qualities. It is also supposed to be advantageous in engines that use ball bearings for main bearings because of its increased surface tension over mineral oil. The Porsche guys who are running the early ball bearing engines still use castor oil, an improved non gummy version.
@@adking7091 Thank you for the detailed reply. I also would add that any other oil besides Castor Oil would not smell 'correct' for an antique engine and even though it doesn't taste great it is still better than modern oils in that sense. So in a total loss oiling system even that is an advantage!
The term 'Flying Circus' came from the fact that the German fighters of WW1 were designed and made to be disassembled moved by rail to where they were needed. Traveling circuses of the time traveled by rail as well. The civilian population seeing the planes on the rail cars associated this with the circus. The civilian population coined the phrase, 'Flying Circus'.
@@dixierebel8422 That theory has been put forth also, but the allied pilots called them the flying circus because of the bright colors, they didn't know about the rail transport.
It’s awesome you got your hands on an original engine and know the history of it. I am building a sopwith pup replica from the airdrome company. Going to use a verner radial
Love it I am Curently working on a full digital plan set of the Fokker D6 With the help of Engels Achim The goal is to make a hystoric correct set of plans And be capabole of building real Airworthy planes
Good to see you guys bringing history back to life. It is one thing to see a static display in a museum but it is a whole different experience to hear them breathing and screaming their proud war cries. Where I live we have the Nampa Warhawk Museum and it is a great place to not only see these old warbirds but to also learn about the people who made history.
Strictly speaking, Nov 11th is armistice day, not the end of the war. The Treaty of Versailles, which officially ended World War I, was signed on June 28, 1919.
The valve springs are not very strong because centrifugal force (or whatever they're calling it now) assists when the engine is running. If you pull it through by hand the valves will "flutter" off and on the seat and make that noise.
Great vidio great build just one small error in the introduction the dr1 used a 100 hp Le Rhone engine, which is 80 Kilowatts, where you said it was 80 hp. Can't wait to see you fly it 🤩
@@Steve-ei2vh No error, this is an 80 hp LeRhone. The Triplane originally had a 110 hp Oberursal engine, which was basically a copy of the 110 hp LeRhone.
@adking7091 OK, my apologies I had read of the blue Max in a museum with an 80kw engine and thought droping 10hp will work. I sopose you have done the maths but dropping 30 hp on a real drag machine! I have read that most pilot's felt it was underpowered with 110 hp. I definitely will be interested to see how she performs with only 80 hp
Fantastic work! Now if someone can figure out how to get rid of that wretched digital stutter so that the prop (and in this case the engine) looked right when running.
For some reason that's a fairly common mistake. Of course it's a rotary engine, the entire engine rotates. It is also a radial engine, so is a rotary radial engine.
I just say a great big WELL DONE to everyone involved in the project. Superb commitment to a great part of aviation history. May I ask. Did Sopwith use the Le Rhone engines ? Also , how clever getting the fuel from the carb up to the cylinders ?? Great video and thanks a lot. Colin ( England )
Extra points for painting it something other than 'Richtofen Rot'...
You gotta do the leg kick when pulling the prop. Gives you extra pull speed on the prop I guess. All the vintage footage I remember seeing them use a leg as they spun the prop
And look at we are flying today. Amazing
She is gorgeous.
Why would the cylinders spin?
Well done
1200 RPM ignition on...and all other RPM ignition off coasting with two stroke flooding with castor oil and gas blowing out the cylinder heads. BIP BIP BIP BIP
Crate engine? They used to sell for $50K for the handful left in the late 90's...dunno how much now
I'm confused, all the parts look brand new restored or replaced. Y'all said the engine has not run since 1918 and that statement would imply its the original engine with original parts, at least in my thinking anyway. This seems to not be what I see. Anyway, regardless, its an awesome plane and great work getting it airworthy.
Would love to hear the story on this NOS engine, how it survived over 100 yrs & was found.
@@tedvolz9674 They were built under license in Pennsylvania, and more were built than were used. The extra engines were sold surplus on the civilian market in the 1920s, and a few managed to survive, probably in someone's garage or shed, until they became valuable and were kept by collectors. This one ended up with a collector in the southern US, who had it for several decades I think, before deciding to pass it on to someone else, and selling it to John, the owner of the Fokker Triplane.
It would be so wonderful, if we could smell this powerplant start.
Yeah, I'd stand in front of a Cuisinart to hand start it, trusting both the wheel chocks and the old throttle linkage not being wide open. LOL
A technical question. Not that a game is necessarily the gold standard for accuracy, but “Ace of Aces” was otherwise fairly well-researched. In this game, rotary-engined planes enjoyed a particular performance advantage in that the mass of the rotating engine, turning counterclockwise from the point of view of the pilot, made snap turns to the right much faster. Your engine turns clockwise as the pilot sees it, which should improve snap turns left. Was the disconnect in the game mechanics, the direction your engine turns vs. original engines used in this model aircraft, or in my understanding of inertia?
This is another of the myths that have grown around the rotary engine. It is effectively a gyroscope, which reacts at 90 degrees to the applied force. In a level turn the force will react in a vertical vector. In a right turn the reaction will be in the nose down direction, this makes it easier to maintain or gain speed, which will result in a quicker turn. In a left turn the nose will try to rise which would lower the airspeed and make for a slower turn. So it becomes easier to make a tighter right turn than a left one, but the difference is not as much as the legends and myths claim.
@adking7091 Thank you for the clarity. So, roll rate in one direction vs. the other is less of a factor?
@@rustygunner8282 Banking or rolling is along the longitudinal axis of the aircraft, which would not incur the gyroscopic force, so actual rate of roll with the ailerons making input would still be a little better to the left, but this is different from rate of turn which does incur the gyroscopic force.
I am curious as to why you still use Castor Oil in the engine as it has now been superseded by better performing lubricants based on mineral oil formulations.
@@joevalicenti2722 Since the fuel and oil are both sprayed into the crankcase castor oil has an advantage as a vegetable oil over a mineral oil in that it resists mixing with the fuel and reducing its lubricating qualities. It is also supposed to be advantageous in engines that use ball bearings for main bearings because of its increased surface tension over mineral oil. The Porsche guys who are running the early ball bearing engines still use castor oil, an improved non gummy version.
@@adking7091 Thank you for the detailed reply. I also would add that any other oil besides Castor Oil would not smell 'correct' for an antique engine and even though it doesn't taste great it is still better than modern oils in that sense. So in a total loss oiling system even that is an advantage!
The term 'Flying Circus' came from the fact that the German fighters of WW1 were designed and made to be disassembled moved by rail to where they were needed. Traveling circuses of the time traveled by rail as well. The civilian population seeing the planes on the rail cars associated this with the circus. The civilian population coined the phrase, 'Flying Circus'.
@@dixierebel8422 That theory has been put forth also, but the allied pilots called them the flying circus because of the bright colors, they didn't know about the rail transport.
I'd love to see her fly🎉
That is soooooooo awesome. You guys are living the dream! 😊
It’s awesome you got your hands on an original engine and know the history of it. I am building a sopwith pup replica from the airdrome company. Going to use a verner radial
ok I can always say I'm an engine idiot. but. are they calling a radial engine a rotary here or am I dumb?
It's both: A rotary radial engine
Amazing! As someone who’s worked on and built many automotive engines, I’d love to get into aviation engines! Enjoy!
A VERY satisfying moment!
The coolest airplane. Or triplane..
Man as a history nerd, I eagerly anticipate seeing it fly.
It was a fokker to start
Very neat! Question, why are the 3 pages of the log in English?
The engine was built under license in the United States.
Love it I am Curently working on a full digital plan set of the Fokker D6 With the help of Engels Achim The goal is to make a hystoric correct set of plans And be capabole of building real Airworthy planes
Good to see you guys bringing history back to life. It is one thing to see a static display in a museum but it is a whole different experience to hear them breathing and screaming their proud war cries. Where I live we have the Nampa Warhawk Museum and it is a great place to not only see these old warbirds but to also learn about the people who made history.
Very cool guys I can't wait to see it in the air. BTW Is it just me or does this guy sound exactly like Tao Fledermaus?
Nothing like a good pour of castor oil to keep the concrete floor from rusting!
Simply awesome!
WOW!!! New (never used) original rotary engine!!!!! How much did that cost? Congratulations
Got the dead mag sorted out. Now you must time the interrupter gear properly so the guns don't shoot the propeller off. 😂
Strictly speaking, Nov 11th is armistice day, not the end of the war. The Treaty of Versailles, which officially ended World War I, was signed on June 28, 1919.
I like the plane and setup.are the rotary engines two or four stroke and would it run backwards if it was started the wrong way?
Still a four stroke, and would not run backwards
What is the ratcheting sound when he’s turning it backwards and squirting fuel in the exhausts?
The valve springs are not very strong because centrifugal force (or whatever they're calling it now) assists when the engine is running. If you pull it through by hand the valves will "flutter" off and on the seat and make that noise.
10,20, 30, 40, 50 or more that Red Barron was running up that score......
Great vidio great build just one small error in the introduction the dr1 used a 100 hp Le Rhone engine, which is 80 Kilowatts, where you said it was 80 hp. Can't wait to see you fly it 🤩
@@Steve-ei2vh No error, this is an 80 hp LeRhone. The Triplane originally had a 110 hp Oberursal engine, which was basically a copy of the 110 hp LeRhone.
@adking7091 OK, my apologies I had read of the blue Max in a museum with an 80kw engine and thought droping 10hp will work. I sopose you have done the maths but dropping 30 hp on a real drag machine! I have read that most pilot's felt it was underpowered with 110 hp. I definitely will be interested to see how she performs with only 80 hp
Fantastic work! Now if someone can figure out how to get rid of that wretched digital stutter so that the prop (and in this case the engine) looked right when running.
That model is HUGE!
Radial engine, not rotary.
For some reason that's a fairly common mistake. Of course it's a rotary engine, the entire engine rotates. It is also a radial engine, so is a rotary radial engine.
Absolutely incredible.
A repro DR! with an original LeRhone just too cool!
I still can't fathom how rotary engines work.
How many hungry people could you have feed with the money you waisted on your hobby white guy.
The Red Baron gifts yall with views congrats
I sure hope the guy kicking the prop through got paid more than the pilot.
Now then , I’m almost hearing the Badenweiler Marsch playing in the background !!! … Ja , stimmt , Herr Leutnant !!!
Brilliant, what a find! And it sounds great!
I just say a great big WELL DONE to everyone involved in the project. Superb commitment to a great part of aviation history. May I ask. Did Sopwith use the Le Rhone engines ? Also , how clever getting the fuel from the carb up to the cylinders ?? Great video and thanks a lot. Colin ( England )
@@colvinator1611 Yes, some Sopwiths used LeRhone engines, particularly the Pup.
Fantastic 👍👏