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Brain dead litvinist brain rot. If you don’t want your comprehension of history to be just you overlaying maps on top of each other and going “looook! The region of samogitia makes up a big part of Lithuania! Lithuania has been debunked!” I suggest you read a well researched history book.

Belarus is White Rus. Rus, Ruthenia and Russis mean the same thing. There’s no issue here, just an idiot who make this video.

Wanna point out that this conflict mainly exists between wannabe internet Lithuanian and Belarusian historians (sometimes even polish ones for some reason). All major western historians agree that Lithuania was in the leading positions throughout the life of the GDL. Everyone here is either coping or wasting their time since at the end of the day the historians who have picked through everything available have come to that conclusion. Or is someone here gonna claim that the historians forgot to take the "evidence" from their specific blog into account? If unbiased western historians ever re-evaluate the history of the GDL and conclude that Belarus was more relevant that previously thought, then I'm sure the vast majority of Lithuanians will accept it. For now though, this theory will face as much resistance as any other theory that goes directly against the common concensus. Side note, this Litvinism theory isnt even consistant. Everybody has different evidence & sources and their all trying to prove different things. From Lithuanians and Belarisians being equal in their GDL claim / Lithuanians being irelevant peasants for most of its history / Lithuanians not even being part of its history at all and that the founding Balts were actually Belarusians & Moscow helped the Lithuanians steal their real history. The whole theory is getting more and more extreme as time goes on, soon Belarusians will start claiming rome.

Oleg from Novgorod conquered Kiev, what do you mean Novgorod came under Kiev? The state of Rus (Kievan Rus is the term invented by Russians in 19th century to depict their history with capital Kiev, but the principalities called themselves Rossiyskaya zemlya), began from Novgorod and it continued throughout Novgorod. Oleg of Novgorod, prince Igor from Novgorod, Saint Olga from Pskov, Vladimir the Great prince of Novgorod, Yaroslav the wise prince of Novgorod, Alexander Nevsky- prince of Novgorod and later Kiev, Ivan III descendant from the formers - Tzar of all Russia, including Kiev in 1472 after Marrying niece of Byzantine emperor. The Rus state just lost its southern lands through the centuries but they never seized to exist/evolve as one land.

Honestly, this is kinda lame. The western stereotype about Belarus is "Russia, but russian stereotypes are overused so we gotta go more indie"

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the man, the myth, the legend... has come back after 4 years

Вы размаўляеце па-беларуску таму, што я вывучаю беларускую мову.

11:48 Red Ruś is specifically the Western Ukraine rather than whole.

But Russland just means land of the Rus. Hviterussland just means land of white Rus. Why are you assuming hviterussland is a reference to modern Russia? It's a literal translation of Belarus...

In recent years, particularly over the last four years, Germans have started referring to Belarus as "Belarus" instead of the previous "Weißrussland"

Another BeloruZZian shauvinist tries to steal Lithuania’s history. Amazing. Bravo, potato-guy

GDL = Belarus

Looking through the comments written by Belarusian nationalists, who try to steal the history of Lithuania...God damn. They should not be taken-in, and the demise of Belarus and it's identity, will be nothing tragic.

Long live the Polish empire - I Rzeczpospolita🇵🇱💚🇵🇱💚🇵🇱💚🇵🇱

And as an accused 😢😢😢Chinese I do feel bad when the avars, Huns and Mongols went west because the Chinese kicked them out and causing all the troubles in Europe. 😢😢😢

Thank you for clarifying. Now I am researching on white Russia who went to the east side of Russia. And will remember to return to get back absorbing things in east Europe. Respect. ❤❤❤❤

litvinist yapping, dont listen to this guy and go read books written by actual historians about the history of Lithuania like "The Grand Duchy of Lithuania: A European Frontier State" by S. C. Rowell, "The Reconstruction of Nations: Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Belarus, 1569-1999" by Timothy Snyder, "Lithuania Ascending: A Pagan Empire Within East-Central Europe, 1295-1345" by S. C. Rowell, "The Chronicle of the Teutonic Knights" translated by Mary Fischer.

The way your telling history is: -Belarus is Lithuania -Lithuania is samogitia -Nougarduk is the first capital of Lithuania -Lithuania united belarusian tribes ( and not the Baltic tribes like in reality and history books ) -Lithuanian and Jotvingian tribes were speaking slavic and baltic ( were you suspiciasly marked the Lands of Vilnius as disputed by Slavs and Balts, when in reality it was only Baltic lands and everyone spoke baltic there. I can see how your trying to clame Vilnius and the history of Lithuania as Belarusian just to try and prove your litvinist lies to the open world ) -Then you say that KievenRus broke in to two countrys ( wich is alredy so wrong ), then yous say that they are grand duchy of Moscow and grand duchy of Lithuania ( of wich both is wrong as the GDM formed way latter then the colaps of KievenRus, and GDL wich had nothing to do with KievenRus, not even having it's teritorys controled by KievnRus and not being slavic ) -Then you say that PLC formed only Ukriane and Belarus ( wich i mean, you don't nead to be a mastermind to know that it's wrong ). So over all you explanation of Belarusian history is: -Slavic (belarusian) tribes -Then Polotsk forms -Them it falls -Then all of the history of Lithuania from the begining is Belarus -Belarus is the grand duchy of LITHUANIA -and thats it ( wich is 50% of all the history of Belarus ). So over all out of history telling it's a 2-3/10

In 17 century Lithuania was not independent country.Grand Duke of Lithuania lived in Poland.

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What I think as a belarusian: Belarus (Polotsk etc.) fought Crussaders along with Lithuania. They were allies. Dukes are balts, but they spoke slavic and almost everyone spoke slavic. A lot of people were orthodox. Then Polish Lithuania appeared and polonisation started, country became catholic. After that 3 divides of PL

Belarus The name first appeared in German and Latin medieval literature; the chronicles of Jan of Czarnków mention the imprisonment of Lithuanian grand duke Jogaila and his mother at "Albae Russiae, Poloczk dicto" in 1381. I like how he show edited maps where it doesnt show region called ithuania proper (real lithuania). if you have any doubts read Grand duke vytautas letter where he himself describes core of lithuania , being two main tribes Owsteitens and samagotians .Gediminas first mentioned in prussian chronicles as rex de owsteiten {king of Aukstaicia). There was 3 regions in gdl dutchy of samagotia(lowland lithuanians) , lithuania proper(real lithuania ,highland lithuanians ), ithuanian ruthenia (ukrainians +belarus) . "We do not know on whose merits or guilt such a decision was made, or with what we have offended Your Lordship so much that Your Lordship has deservedly been directed against us, creating hardship for us everywhere. First of all, you made and announced a decision about the land of Samogitia, which is our inheritance and our homeland from the legal succession of the ancestors and elders. We still own it, it is and has always been the same Lithuanian land, because there is one language and the same inhabitants. But since the land of Samogitia is located lower than the land of Lithuania, it is called as Samogitia, because in Lithuanian it is called lower land [ Žemaitija ]. And the Samogitians call Lithuania as Aukštaitija, that is, from the Samogitian point of view, a higher land. Also, the people of Samogitia have long called themselves as Lithuanians and never as Samogitians, and because of such identity (sic) we do not write about Samogitia in our letter, because everything is one: one country and the same inhabitants." - Vytautas the Great, excerpt from his 11 March 1420 Latin letter sent to Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor, in which he described the core of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, composed from Žemaitija (lowlands) and Aukštaitija (highlands).[13][14] Term Aukštaitija is known since the 13th century.[15]

In many languages ​​this country is literally called White Russia!

Not "white russia" but "white rus"!!! Today's russia has nothing to do with rus!

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some litvak bullshit haha

Belarus is not white russia, no no no no it's a big mix - of Lithuania, Ukraine, Russia, Poland and Latvia. Those slavs just spoke ruthenian (Kievan rus languege)

Z Jakiego filmu jest ta szarża z proporcami?

9:37 It's Algirdas not Olgerd stop making up false history. Belarus as a nation only came into existence in the 19th century after the local Ruthenians mixed with Russians (muscovites)

Well..the truth needs to be told.... Belarus is a Lithuania:)) That joke was picked up by some Belarusian maroons who were incompetent and even not known.. calling himself historians and till this time spraying crap for their Belarusian people as they don't know any of the origin where they came from . They did write a few books about it for Byelorussians as they have no authentic history ..and decided - lets steal from Lithuania:) Original Lithuania lands not in Belarussian territory and the roots are from Aukstaitija. Kernave was a capital of Grand Duchy...which was between Kaunas and Vilnius in the current Lithuanian territory. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernav%C4%97#:~:text=Kernav%C4%97%20was%20a%20medieval%20capital,(population%20238%2C%202021) . Lithuanians till today called by their dukes names etc...Nothing to do with Belarusians , who are leftovers and mixture of balts and slavs of Grand Duchy of Lithuania.. Sorry, but you can't just steal history in such pathetic way by looking your place in history and writing a few books by incompetent maroons who even can not explain that Lithuania was pagan and after accepted Christianity .. and not Slavic ortodox ... not talking that Lithuania existed before Grand Duchy ..so they so late to claim to be Lithuanians:)

why did dude stop uploading

What joke video is this? You are spreading misinformation.

Thanks for the video. In Spanish we say Bielorrusia or an unofficial (Belarús)

You talk as if Moscow isn't Rus

So Russia is not Russia, so where does m come from?

Lads some of you distinguished gentlemen knows if these scenes come from a movie? If so, may I know the name of it? I would love to know

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How does Lithuanian POV that neither Ukraine, nor Belarus had anything to do with the history of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania differ from Russian imperialistic perspective accroding to which Belarus and Ukraine are pretty much non-existent? The reason why Belarusians refer to themselves as "Litvins" is because they're clinging on to their heritage back from the Grand Duchy days 'cause they've spend considerably more time in aliance with Lithuanians, Poles and Ukrainians where they were able to preserve their language, traditions and whatnot than with Russians who obliterated everything aforementioned. I just don't get, why Lithuanians are so hellbent on severing ties. If anything, to me we should conversely be more affable and accepting towards each other, especially since our common enemy is trying to rebuilt Soviet Union 2.0.

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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it most probably is a duck. In Belarus 80% speaks russian at home (official numbers, real numbers are probably more extreme). Not some kind of "litwin language" that does not exist and not Tarasketvitsa variant of belarussian language but muscovite russian. The culture is russian language TV, vodka, ortodox christianity. It's your typical east slavic country that does not value freedom. This litwinism is some kind of cringe attempt to increase self-esteem by ignoring reality that the country's russification process is absolutely complete. Litwinism portays Lithuania as some kind of "real enemies of Belarus" which is even more cringe since there is no greater enemy to belarusdian freedom and identity than Lukashenko and Russian federation

Thanks for video, and greetings from Belarus

All you vassals, you should thank for Lithuanians that we let you be in our history. Now go on your knees !!

This is some kremlin propaganda bulshit. Fake af

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There are numerous maps showing where White Russia/Alba Russia/Blanche Russia is and where Lithuania exactly is. Lithuania is named on those maps as “Lithuania Propria”. This author compared modern map to his picked maps just to mislead people and tell that only Samogitia is Lithuania, but, as Vytautas the Great said, Lithuania is Samogitia + Aukstaitija (Lithuania Propria). This psueodhistorical narrative is called “Litvinism” where Belorussians steal Lithuania’s history.

Ive done some research and I figured out that those are my ancestors.

The border of Samogitia is Kaunas and the river Nevezis egsacly as shown on the maps,but its not all now days Lithuania.Now days Lithuania is Samogitia,Aukshtaitia,small parts of Semigalia and Jotva but not only Samogitia as you try to show.That is misinformation.

The author of the video calls Rus' “Kievan Rus”. In brackets he writes: "Ruthenia" And this person talks about history?-) "Kievan Rus" never existed. This is a historical term from the 19th century. The state was called simply - "Rus" The names “Ruthenia”, “Rosia”, “Venaya”, “White Rus'”, “Muscovy”, etc. are what various states called Rus'. Rus' itself never called itself that. This can be seen from the primary Russian chronicle of 1110 and other Russian chronicles. What are these names for? What would what? The author’s entire “history” is a cardboard house he himself built out of a misunderstanding of history, myths and banal mistakes. ________________ I will analyze the funniest argument: 7:10 - 8:02 1. "These lands became the basis of what we today call Kievan Rus" a) “Kievan Rus” is a term, not a state. b) The state was called simply “Rus” c) The state of Rus' began with Ladoga and Novgorod. Then, spreading to Kyiv and other principalities. The author simply deliberately mixes everything up creating phenomenal confusion. 2. “Kievan Rus” (Rus) included the principalities of Kiev, Chernigov and Peryaeslav. No. At the time when Kyiv was annexed to Rus', it already included the northern lands of Novgorod and many others. Source: "Primary Russian Chronicle of 1110" 3. “The beginning of Kievan Rus is associated with the period when Kyiv was captured by the ruling dynasty from Novgorod” a) For the third time: “Kievan Rus” did not exist. b) Kyiv was captured by Rus'. c) The name Rus' comes from the name of the Vikings, who were invited by the Slavic tribes to reign in Ladoga (northern, Ilmen Slavs. Tribes: Ves, Krivichi, Slovene, Merya) Source: Primary Russian chronicle of 1110. 4. “Kievan Rus spread to the principalities of Novgorod, Smolensk, etc.” a) The Varangians (Vikings), who were called “Rus”, were invited to rule the Ilmen Slavs and Finno-Ugric tribes. The Varangians - Russ began to rule in Ladoga, Izborsk, Beloozero and Novgorod. It was then that the land began to be called Rus. b) “Kievan Rus” never spread to Novgorod since Rus itself came to Kyiv FROM NOVGOROD. Just a circus. ______________ The main humor and circus is that the author mentions that Kyiv was captured by the ruling dynasty from Novgorod in 882. (7:34) And then, he talks about how “Kievan Rus” spread to Novgorod. That is, Kyiv was captured by the Rus from Novgorod, so that later “Kievan Rus” would capture Novgorod. That's all I wanted to say -)

Let's start with the fact that the state of Kievan Rus never existed. after that it became clear that the video would contain many errors or propaganda