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Nic is great. Anton was not a nice man. Regardless of what Nic says. He still has a lot of truth to tell.

Steve “Clem” Grogan sings on The Family Jams album- “The Manson Family Sings the Songs of Charles Manson”. He sounds very close to Charlie vocally. Check out ‘Rahide away’, ‘Going to the church house’, ‘Die to Be One’, & ‘First They Made Me Sleep in the Closet’. Love this content, keep it coming! ☮️✌🏻

With reference to the *Canadians* discussion that went on in the aftershow: Tom O’Neill _did_ eventually find Tom Harrigan. I guess it was too late to put it in the body of the _Chaos_ text, but it *is* mentioned in the “NOTES” (footnotes) in the back. Footnote #35 sheds light on the lines (in chapter 2, “An Aura Of Danger,” in the “In California, Everybody Has a Tan” section) _“As for the other two: I’d learned Dawson had died of a drug overdose in 1986, and Harrigan was nowhere to be found.”_ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 35 Harrigan was nowhere to be found: *I did find and interview Harrigan, but not until 2014.*

Keep in mind that judges and prosecutors work against you as a defense attorney "ALWAYS". Object!

In US criminal Court if you're worth your license you better object for every improper word coming from a prosecutor. I know I do without hesitation and given the environment and corruption in LA county you better object.

The baby you’re talking about I can’t remember whose son it was, but I think he tripped acid and die when he was like four because he fell out of a window or something traumatic

Have you ever looked into the murder of the guy that was found shot in a motel room? I can't think of his name at the moment somethin like Gino Torrellie or something like that. He was one the mechanics that hung around for the sex and drugs. I believe Manson was already in jail when this happened but Bruce Davis wasn't. This is one of the reasons I believe Davis doesn't push for parole. I think he and some others know he is responsible for more than just slicing Shortys shoulder.

The kind of human misery that goes into coffee production in these banana Republics is disgusting. But that doesn't mean Abigail Folger deserved this. It is entirely probable that she had no idea about it, and if she did, she'd have made some kind of reformer of herself. That's my take on it.

I remember that television show "Rhoda." It was very short lived. Failed miserably.

Rudy always spoke and acted quite looney tunes.

Listen to the Al Springer interviews. I thought he may have gotten the reward money or a part of it.

Thank you for all the great research, enjoy all your streams so much! Sending Love and support from Maryland!

It's something Altobelli went broke later in life. Karma? I went over to Cielo Drive on Sunday and noticed how steep the road is. The hills going up to the property from the road are very steep and heavy with brush. Tex and crew must have been part mountain goat. There are a lot of homes around there. I'm sure many are new, but a lot look old. I asked an old-timer out walking a dog if there were a lot homes there in 1969, he said there were, but of course there are more now.

Bugliosi,in his best selling book ' Helter Skelter ", actually indirectly places some blame on Sharokh Hatami. Bugliosi states that the wording of Hatami, in telling Charlie Manson,to ' take the back alley '!, was instrumental in causing resentment in Manson against the occupants of 10050 Cielo Drive. Bugliosi argued that in standard American parlance, ' back alley ' signified an area of unkempt condition. Litter, weeds, garbage cans. Manson, in Bugliosi 's words, must have felt like he was being treated ' like an alley 🐈 cat '....

I read that Sharon's dad, Paul Tate and Roman Polanski, actually, INCREDIBLY, when faced with Altobellis lawsuit, they went and purchased rubber dishwashing gloves, buckets, cleaning supplies. They got down on their hands and knees and scrubbed and cleaned up the blood marks on the carpet. The very blood of his daughter, and Roman's wife. Absolutely mind boggling. I would think that with all their combined money ( a retired Lieutenant Colonel of the United States Army, and a very successful movie director), they could hire out professional cleaning crews and dispatch them out to 10050 Cięło Drive.

Wow!! This was fascinating to hear!! Thanks, Nancy!!! Your videos NEVER DISAPPOINT!! I've been studying the Manson saga for decades, and I was skeptical that there's nothing I haven't already read/ heard. Boy, did Nancy prove me wrong!!

I know what Butlins is only because I am a Beatles fan. I read that Ringo Starr was playing at a Butlins Holiday Camp when John Lennon rang him and asked him if he wanted to replace Pete Best on drums,in August,1962.

Keep up the good work! So in-depth thanks

I enjoy your channel Nancy. Keep up the good work. From Belfast. X

Sarah Miles in her autobiography Serves Me Right mentions that her co star in Ryan's Daughter Christopher Jones had had an affair with Sharon Tate and was distraught after hearing of her murder

Nancy what I believe is that William garretson never left the property on the killings, there was a window in the walk in closet which looked out to the pool/grass area, I believe he saw abigale and maybe voytek being killed. Idk maybe he was frozen with fear, but if he ran out the back door why would he have come back? I think he was too scared to death to leave.

Nancy your channel is awesome. I don’t know anyone who covers the Manson thing more than you do.

Love your show!!!

Rumors of Manson and Dennis Wilson being lovers, unsubstantiated but from more than one very good sources....also rumors that Altobelli and Dennis Wilson were sexual partners on at least one occasion.....

How did he know they were killed before the maid found them?

Dennis & Charlie in love? Or Bobby Beausoleil's band "Love," with Arthur Lee, who's best friend was Jimi Hendrix. & Gabby's best friend was Momma Cass.

Rhoda Morganstern a spinoff of Mary Tyler Moore...

thanks for this. very well done. (i was in hwood that summer of 69 when this occurred, the whole entertainment industry was major freaked out. manson had gotten around....)

was it tru homemade porn was found in the attic at cielo?

He didn’t destroy his ego, he went into a catatonic depression and his music took a significant decline in quality. He also had a lot of bad trips

Parent was a well-documented thief. He lifted the radio from somewhere and was trying to flip it. Most plausible explanation.

He had the "back door" open. Implies there is a front door, too. Means Krenwinkle could be truthful in saying she tried to open the door, but found it locked.

Very glad to have found you. My interest in the Manson case brought me to you but I stayed because of how you treat the people in your chat. You make every person feel as that what they said is important. Even when they say something kind of dumb you said 'yea' to make them feel included. I appreciate that.

I just got the anthology of The Process magazines delivered today, I've read the interview and am astounded at how little this has been mentioned. I have always ignored the sensationalism around The Process and the Terry narrative, but this interview is CRAZY.

Garretson said Cary Grants chauffeur drive him back to the house after walking down to sunset a few days before the 8 th of August 69. Perhaps Grants car was there from the chauffeur “ visiting “ William.

I’m sure Rudi picked up James Woods who is known to be blessed although he’s hard to look at. James hit it big once his miniseries was successful in mid 70’s. Rudi wasn’t that old in 1969. Rudi stumbles all over the place when Tom asks him about his relationship with Garretson.

Fairy dust is another name for angel dust,PCP

Rhoda was a woman and was a very good comedy with Valerie Harper and Julie Kavner

If Linda did not participate in the crimes, why was she describing the murder scene to detectives as they walked through the house? None of the killers place her in the house during the slayings. Doesn't add up.

Rhoda was a spinoff of Mary Tyler Moore, she was Mary's friend.

Altobelli was a disgrace asking for money for bloodied carpets etc. Apparently, he got the sofa cleaned and used it for years!

Wasn't that show "Rhoda" a spin off from The Mary Tyler Moore show ? Ah I looked it up, it was 👍

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....any similar ''rare'' details about the Dylan motorcycle accident in 66' ???

Odd thing about Rudi was that he said in court that he first thought that Manson might be the killer when he was on the plane ride from Europe, right after learning about it. He said he didn’t tell the police because they didn’t ask … wow. Also, police interviewed Jacobson because he was close to Rudi, and he didn’t mention Manson or Tex to police. Evidently, no one mentioned them at all, ever. Rudi’s dogs went nuts when the police approached guest house that morning, and one even bite a cop. But evidently, none of them made a peep that night … weird …

Great research Nancy,aloha

See film Grand Theft Parsons

Christopher Jones had an affair with Sharon Tate

Angela Lansbury from British Labour Party political "Aristocracy"

It's most surprising to me that she moved into Cielo in Sept. Prior to the murders even being solved ? That took some nerve , I think. Moving in while the murderers were still out and about. It sure explains why Altobali got guard dogs.