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Sam, thank you for your wise comments, I could not have said it better myself. This is exactly what Rabbi Botton said to R Friedman in an interview on line with this video title if you want to see it: "Did Rabbi Manis Friedman Go To Far" I will say one thing - though saying what he said as general as he said it is not correct and misleading - this applies mainly to the clips made by Yaron Reuven - because then the message has no context and can seem absolute. I have spoken to many rabbis about this and though it is wrong to say in the context he says it, with 20 to 30 minutes of a deep meaningful message - it is only considered a mistake not heresy and not very dangerous. But the clips that present this can be, but they don't fairly represent his real message. That's why this video is posted on this channel, because in my opinion supported by rabbis, at least some level of correction is accomplished. Also I recommend you see the video I mentioned because in it R Friedman actually fixes thing saying that even today people will suffer, go to hell, be reincarnated for sin - but he calls it rectification not punishment because he feels that without willful rebellion rectification is a better term, and though I don't fully agree with this, it does fix things and clarities that he is NOT heretic and his full teachings are not heresy. I hope this is helpful all the best

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 Thanks for the reply. I would like to add that Rav Aaron Feldman the Rosh Yeshiva of Ner Yisroel spoke out against Rabbi Friedman and said that he is teaching heresy. That’s not to say that he doesn’t mean well, but he’s mistaken. And to say that now a days we don’t get punished is I’m pretty sure heresy. It’s a denial of the 13 ikarim and a basic principle of the Torah. Maybe he retracted it in another video. I don’t know. But in this video it’s clearly teaching a heretical idea. Im not saying it as a personal attack. I just think these things need to be called out because they can lead a person especially an uneducated person to a heretical idea.

@@Sam-yv6wm can you please give me the time stamp of the part that seems heretical, so I can check? About the heresy issue - the clip on schar and onesh as is - does seem heretical in the video with R Friedman and R Botton R Friedman explains himself and what he says is NOT heretical - it is possible that this new explanation came after this video. so as of now, at least it seems that R Friedman is NOT a heretic - but the clips seem heretical. 2 point on this 1) it's possible the original classes did not give this same heretical feel - so the clips could have made things worse 2) Even if the full video does seem heretical - as long as he stops saying this point and together with his clarification he should be considered Kosher at the very least is an after the fact situation (meaning B'de'eved) - meaning that this whole thing is not perfect - and it would have been better if he never said some of the things he said. 3) I have seen the video from R Feldman - his view is of course valid - but keep in mind he never said R Friedman is a heretic -just that saying there is no reward and punishment is heretical - so in my opinion all of the above in important to understand the full meaning of R Feldman. all the best

Sam - though you are correct in what you say, I think you may be missing an important point: 1) the term God only represents God's essence as it is expressed through the Divine, Godly real of Holiness. That said, it is absolutely correct to say according to Torah and Kabbalah to say that God has Godly emotions. This is correct because it never means that God's essence before it becomes invested in creation post tzimtum through the 10 sefirot of Atsilut. This is all correct and agreed on by all gedolim that know kabbalah. And here is the source for this from Chazal: When Moshe asked God what His name was - God answered - I am called (by name) in accordance to my actions. Look of source and you'll see that everything above it correct. Again thanks for your comments all the best

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 I’m not sure what all of this means if you could elaborate. But we all agree that god does not have HUMAN emotions. He transcends those. To say god has “godly emotions”, Im not sure what that means because they are not human emotions and that’s all we understand. It goes back to we don’t know and may never know gods essence. There are just expressions in this world in a way we understand. To imply even if rabbi Friedman didn’t mean to that god gets angry etc.. is definitely heretical. He didn’t clarify these kabbalistic concepts. He blanketly said god has an arm, and gets angry. That’s dangerous to say and heretical. Also the chazal you quoted means that god is called by a name in accordance to his actions. Meaning that god name is not a reflection of his essence.

@@Sam-yv6wm thanks for commenting, I will try and answer your questions. 1) "god does not have HUMAN emotions" yes everyone agrees on this. 2) I don't mean at all to talk down to you but the following is simple and many rabbis agree to this. "To imply even if rabbi Friedman didn’t mean to that god gets angry etc.. is definitely heretical." The Torah says God gets angry - how can anyone think is heretical to repeat what the Torah says. It obviously means a Godly type of anger. 3) "He blanketly said god has an arm, and gets angry. That’s dangerous to say and heretical." Again the Torah does say God has a hand - but this needs to me understood. I myself have watched the longer video that R Friedman said this in - and he explains it in a corect and deep way based on Kabbalah and mainly Chassidut. It's the 10 second clip that created the problem - and also the ignorance of Yaron Reuven including this point from Kabbalah Chassidut and the Shelah in his attact against R Friedman. 4)"Meaning that god name is not a reflection of his essence." This statement is not accurate - God's essence, meaning the Infinite One (Ein Sof) is above everything - but God chose to contract an aspect of His essence (Ein Sof) within His actions - meaning manifestations in the created realms. So though God's essence is above His Names the Divine Names ARE a reflection of His essence. I realize this is deep and based on Kabbalah but I think you will appreciate this over time and it is the correct anser to your statement. All the best

thank you for the advice, I'll look at the video again and decide. I will add this though because it is true either way: 1) R Friedman is a Torah scholar, but he has chosen a non-conventional Kiruv approach, with some issues and legitimate criticism is valid. In Kiruv there is room given by Jewish leaders, and it must be determined if R Friedman's ideas have crossed the lines of heresy. I personally spoke to 2 gedolim in this - one concludes that R Friedman has crossed the lines - though he accepts that he himself is not a heretic but making a mistake. -- The other concluded that R Friedman though controversial and provocative - is perhaps at the border -BUT DID NOT CROSS THE LINE. I hope this is helpful all the best And like I said I will view the video again to determine it it is better that that it not be viewed. I admit I only watched part of it a felt it was fine, but I'll check the rest.

Do you believe Maimonides was a philosopher or not?

@@stefanodavideconti6844 Yes he was and was influenced by Aristotelis.

@@ermetefulcanelli3499 Some people makes dogmas of the 13 principles of faith by Maimonide too. I know Maimonides derived them from Sanhedrin 10,1but I don't think is intelligent to consider them dogmas and G.d created us intelligent and rational.

@@stefanodavideconti6844 Is Manis the Rambam by any chance?

yes, truly a special special soul

Yes, and his opinion represents a Torah. Jew that this channel accepts. But his is not the only Torah opinion there are rabbis Litvish, Sefardic and Chabad that give a psak that he is kosher and his teachings are kosher. Though they recognize criticism of his style is legitimate and his statements on reward and punishment went too far, they give a ruling that he is still kosher. 1 reason is that in a recent video interview with Rabbi Botton R Friedman clarifies that he agrees that a soul can suffer in hell or reincarnation he considers the main purpose as a rectification. This proves that he is not at all a heretic - though this channel agrees that his original statement of the video clip is problematic. And I repeat to make sure I was clear - this channel Accepts Rav Feldmans view as well as the view of those other rabbis. All the best

If is style isn’t good for you I suggest you choose other rabbis to learn from. I recommend: Rav Yitzchak Breitowitz Rabbi Lawrence Kelemen

This is exactly what I've been thinking about rabbi manis. Maybe my iq is low or something, i never grasp his answer clearly,

@@EliorThartea I don't think the problem s with you - different learning styles appeal to different people - like food - different people like different types of food. NOTE: in Hebrew "Taste" and "Reason" are the same word - Ta'am טאם. Also, R' Friedman's answers are complex, so not everyone will follow his answer to the end.

I don't understand your statement, but it seems that you missed the first basic lesson inJudaism - unless your opinion matters don't give it - Judaism isn't a social media platform where everyone that want attention should shout.

Excellent point, thanks for sharing

yes, there is

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 Is there punishment for Se7en?

@@letstalk137 I don't understand your question

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 I will explain later, but did you see the movie? It's based on ideas about how to not get fanatical either way about reward and punishment

If anything he’s a false heretic - because he believes and knows it’s that there is hell and that the soul suffers - so he’s statements make it seem like he is a heretic but if he doesn’t actually believe the implications of his statement then at best one can say the statements are heretical - but he CAN NOT be an actual heretic without believing in his own statement. You may not like this response but it is a fact of the laws of heresy not an opinion. All the best

you are absolutely correct. Here is a video that explains all about it from 3 different rabbis. I'm copying the title only because sometimes I don't see comments with a link show up. all the best Q&A: Is Saying God Needs Us Heretical? Kabbalah Secrets, Philosophy & Why God Created US

News Flash many real rabbis of real Shulls and real yeshivas agree with me. His opinions do not matter - what he teaches That he doesn’t distort is fine. What he says about other rabbis means nothing EVEN WHEN HE IS RIGHT - it means nothing because he is not qualified to give his opinion about other rabbis. The truth may be hard to accept but at least I tried to offer you some education.

Yes and the reason no real rabbi will debate him is because they wouldn’t stoop to his level. You don’t believe me try and set up debates with real rabbis and see who is interested. And about R Friedman Reuven implied he was a child molester - why should he speak to Reuven let alone debate him

And your assessment of how will R Friedman would do shows how much you still need to learn

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 In what respect is he not qualified to give his opinion? Because you don't like him? How about Gdol Hador Rabbi Aaron Feldman. He also gave a very strong rebuke of Manis Friedman (essentially calling him an Ame Aretz and a fool) in a famous shiur which is available online. Is he also not qualified?

​@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 On that point, you can go to my comment below on Rabbi Feldman calling him an Ame Aretz (an ignorant person). Rabbi Reuven can quote the Gemara by heart and on demand, something Manis Friedman cannot do. Rav Reuven's rabbi, Rabbi Kachlon is a serious Talmid chacham who was close to Rav Ovadia Yosef and has been endorsed by his son Rav Yitzhak Yosef, all sources that are far more widely accepted and serious than Manis Friedman. My assessment on Rabbi Reuven smoking Manis Friedman at any debate is based on several decades on this earth, living on three different continents, building two successful businesses and acquiring sufficient life experiences which has led me to detect frauds vs the real deal. Manis Friedman is no real deal. He is playing the same game many people are playing: He sounds nice, seems nice but the content of his speech is full of nonsense and in this case heresy. Rabbi Reuven is not interested in people liking him or in building the largest youtube following. He is interested in Emet, truth. Whether you like him personally is a byproduct, not the actual goal. Based on my experience, it is much easier to get by in life by being "nice" to everything and everyone than by spreading the truth. But those who choose the latter end up becoming the leaders who's memory will last throughout the generations.

He didn’t call HIM a heretic - he said the statement from the video clip on punishment was heresy - there is a deference. R Friedman is absolutely NOT a heretic he said in other videos he believes in reward and punishment. That doesn’t mean his style and statements are perfect - criticism and comments by Rav Feldman are justified and according to R Feldman needed - but there are other rabbis also very big that don’t think he is a heretic This is how Torah works there is room for more than 1 opinion - and don’t let those 2 RUclips rabbis convince you that there is only 1 way to look at Torah.

If you don’t like R Friedmans teaching don’t watch his videos and you’re entitled to your opinion - but you are not an expert. There are different opinions about R Friedman aiming the rabbis R Mizrachi and Yaron Reuven are not the only ones and in fact they are not the biggest rabbis that have an opinion on this. THEY ARE RUclips RABBIS. Not rabbis that give rulings in a Jewish court. All the best

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 , i have never watched his videos , and will never watch , i am 50 years old , H-SHEM has given us all enough wisdom , AND IF YOU REALLY A TRUTH SEEKER, H-SHEM WILL LEAD YOU TO TRUE AND HOLY RABBI'S , AND NOT PEOPLE PLEASERS, TO BE HONEST I dont know how your video popped up , ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY HAS BILLION FOLLOWERS , does it mean they speak truth ? so even if any rabbi has million followers , that does not mean he is speaking truth , do you know the holy Rabbi EFRAIM KACHLON, hardly any followers , but pls watch all his short videos , up to the mark ... a very holy rav....shalom my friend from india

@@NicholasMascarenhas thanks for your good advice

Yes that is correct - but keep in mind the Torah does use the same word to describe both.

@@naphtalitiefenbrun8162 slave, servant...semantics.

Unless you're anti-semantic. 🤣🤣🤣😂

And one big mouth that is qualifies to give his opinion. But you seem to learn for your teacher Reuven who also isn’t qualified to give an opinion on this.

@@steveb.3057 Its Elul how will you do Teshuva from Lashon Hara against these2 holy. Also you can decide who are Kofrim?

@@mikeizme2002 not everything is lashon Harah depends if the rabbis is making people sin you are allowed to thalk bad if he dont repent

@@KasherMu He has spoken according to a chasidish mesorah. You better be 100% what your saying during Ellul. If you misunderstand because of your limited chachma. Then those who speak against him are vadai baalei lashon hara.

@@mikeizme2002 i mean saying there is nobody in the world that deserve punishment,

Well said

If God doesn’t need the rocks on earth for something - why’d He create them - does God do things for no purpose or reason?

@@HisMessenger-wf5qd Gd needs us because he created the world to do good for us. If we do bad we are frustrating Gd's plan for the world. It isn't an essentiial need. Feel free to use "strongly urge". Afterall we are the beneficiaries of Gd's goodness. Thisis my understanding based on Derech Hashem.

This is amazing, why don’t you make a video about this? If you do I’d be happy to put it on this channel and I can maybe get it on another more popular channel

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 Thanks for your comment. I have listened to R Friedman for many years. I have clearly remember in many of his videos state that Hashem does not punish and use his famous reasoning that we did not ask to be born as support for his beliefs. I can not remember when he ever stated that Suffering in ones life could be because of punishment for transgression of negative commandments. Even in Torah Hashem Himself warns what he will do to Jews if they disobeyed. Hashem also warns if Jews don,t return after they have been punished for their sins Hashem will increase the suffering seven times more. Hence you can see from other peoples comments R Friedmen statements do not make sense.

@@elisheva7772 His new videos have a specific message, You don't need to watch R Friedman's videos - there are many other rabbis

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 Imagine if in Yeshiva when students asked a rabbi a challenging question they found contradictory in Torah, the rabbi told them "you don't have to come to my Yeshiva if you don't agree with me, as there other places you can go". This is basically what your answer sounds like - no offense.

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 Imagine what a Talmud would look like if the rabbi's in there would avoid a debate with another rabbi who disagreed with them.

@@elisheva7772 no offense taken. I'm not sure I'm following the comments correctly. these comments not the best for a real discussion. If you can clarify in short what you want to say, I can ty try to respond. thanks

Your complain is legitimate. Which point do you want a source to, I can try and provide one for him.

Any point of contention has to be sourced so that a skeptic or a naysayer or a critic or an adversary can't claim that the rabbi is inventing any idea. Not everyone does a mitzvah with kavanah. A mitzvah can be done unwillingly, like when a person feels stinginess, yet he gives tzeddakah. In talks like these, it is deficient in messaging to posit an idea or a concept without referencing where the idea is derived, especially when there are statements from our sages who seem to say otherwise. Why create a pit that you know the critics are going to fall into?

@@grubbetuchus again your critical comments are justified. If you give me a time stamp I can look at it and address it.

​@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511I'll listen again and take notes as I listen. I was waiting for interjections, "According to who? Where is this derived?"

​@@grubbetuchus Based on what he is saying I will see if there are sources in the writings of the Torah, Sages and Kabbalah and Rabbinic leaders over the past 1000 years.

Yes but Ismael has no real right to what is Isaac’s and his descendants

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 is that so ? Shiloh whom the Jews await clearly is also from the house of Ishmael according to Genesis 17 _20

@@thetwosonsofadamabel1206 you are mistaken - please do more research

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511read your scripture Genesis 49-10 the sceptre shall not depart from Judah nor a law giver from between his feet until Shiloh come unto him the gathering of the nations be > do you know Muslims await Shiloh he’s the coming 12 th leaders imam Al Mahdi Genesis 17-20 as for Ishmael I have heard you I will surely bless him he shall be the FATHER of 12 LEADERS and I shall make him into a great nation “ don’t be in denial ? How else is one man going to UNITE all peoples ???

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 I’ve researched for over a decade and believe me your coming king is prophesied in Genesis 17-20 as for Ishmael I have heard you I will surely bless him and make him fruitful.he shall be the father of 12 princes and I shall make him into a great nation the awaited Shiloh is the awaited Muslim Mahdi he’s going to unite Judah and Ishmael via his lineage back to Abraham

Great idea!

Excellent point. I think this fact points to a higher Divine force behind all this. May we merit to see Messiah soon and with great mercy.

"two Jews three different opinions" this is the beauty of judaism. The term "heresy" sounds christian....

There is definitely room for criticism Can you please specify some examples so I can at least know to which exact points you mean?

@@EmersonLearn-kd3vx no heracy. Rabbi Friedman is speaking fro deep Kaballa. This requires chazara not a quick listen.. Those who call him a kofer Are not learning on a deep Level.

Santa Claus is not real he can’t be a heretic. R Friedman can be called wrong misleading provocative controversial - but not a heretic because he accepts the truths of Torah and knows them even better than those other 2 RUclips personalities screaming and insulting him online. R Friedman is Not a heretic.

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 , yes santa claus is heretic , speaks all nonsense , i being a gentile studying the holy torah from almost 10 years ... and i admire rabbi mizrachi and rabbi yaron , FOR THEIR TRUTH , THEY SPEAK ONLY EMET , words from talmud , gemarah , zohar and , from rambam to ramban , THEY QUOTE FROM SOURCES , THEY DONT SPEAK NONSENSE AND THEY DONT STAND NONSENSE PEOPLE LIKE THE SANTA CLAUS , who is misguiding millions of jewish people TO GEHINNOM

@@EmersonLearn-kd3vx Elul...Don't use Mr. Mizrachis words of pirud. We should have achdus.

Safe to say then the time before the Jews was not the Palestinians.

If Canaanites were around today, they would have an argument, but they are extinct as a people majority have assimilated into the Jewish nation 🇮🇱

Two brothers were in dispute over the land and said you are stepping on my land he rose up against him and killed him > Genesis 4 Cain & Abel

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Reuven is not a Rav

@@divinewisdomliveabetterlif3511 Really? And Mizrachi?

@@stefanodavideconti6844didn’t mizrachi admit he wasn’t ever ordained?? Rav Friedman seems to be the only actual rav here

@@sinclair4626 ok. Thanks.

Muslims are blessed G_d heard them Genesis 17-20 and as for Ishmael I have heard you I will surely bless him I will make him fruitful he shall be the father of 12 princes and I shall make him into a great nation

Yes, you are he is truly a special and great rabbi. But it the opinion of many that R Friedman teaches and helps a lot of people. The problem is with those that don’t act in the way of a Torah insulting and exaggerating and screaming With all the smoke they created there is no fire, and even the 1 issue of reward and punishment is solved in thebinterview with R Friedman and R Botton - in that video R Friedman says there is suffering and hell but it is a rectification because most people don’t really rebel against God.

This is what written in Sanhedrin 37a 16: "And this serves to tell of the greatness of the Holy One, Blessed be He, as when a person stamps several coins with one seal, they are all similar to each other. But the supreme King of kings, the Holy One, Blessed be He, stamped all people with the seal of Adam the first man, as all of them are his offspring, and not one of them is similar to another. Therefore, since all humanity descends from one person, each and every person is obligated to say: THE WORLD WAS CREATED FOR ME, as one person can be the source of all humanity, and recognize the significance of his actions".

You are correct but for Kiev and when talking to people with no connection with the tradition, I don’t see an issue leaving out cumbersome sources. But for religious crowds he should mention sources.

The end of that Idea is that "I was created to serve my master" the center is Hashem. The person must realize how important he is to Hashem so much that the whole world was created for him (... To serve Hashem)

@@Dextermoon1 not everybody knows the gemara

@@mikeizme2002 then they shouldn’t be preaching to millions of people as a Rabbi

I agree with you and in the video E Botton says the same thing. But I think on this point R Friedmans opinions are not heretical but certainly we don’t all need to agree with everything he says. It’s the yelling and screaming at him that is out of line.