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Yeah, Stephan Weyte made this line really memorable. I don't like DUSK all that much though, but it felt like a good fit here.

Спасибо. Вопрос сложный, потому что критика критике рознь, да и я сам часто не могу наслаждаться чем-то даже если видно, что сделано оно качественно. Что говорить о том, чтобы советовать что-то кому-то другому? Как будто человек обязательно почувствует то же самое. К тому же, наверное, ты ждёшь от меня какой-то неизвестный никому скрытый гем, но я о нём не знаю. Пока не нашёл. На ум приходят только популярные тайтлы: Disco Elysium и тот же Night In The Woods. И Proteus. В последнее время я думаю, что проблемные произведения могут быть даже лучше "идеальных", потому что противоречия тоже поднимают интересные вопросы. И ещё очень интересно для себя собирать этот паззл, как же относиться к работе? И как объяснить её другим? Второму я до сих пор учусь.

@efimmortal о, второе база понимаемо. "Неидеальные игры" для меня в акцентах или контрасте будто лучше ощущаются. В диско играл, зашло но не слишком, что такое протеус не слышал ни разу как ни странно, а насчет найт ин вудс давно думал, спасибо!

Wow thank you very much

Right! Never played it myself, but it fits here too

Now when you said it I really wonder why I was thinking that way. To be honest, even after that interaction with digital still feels very different. Person's interactions can't be a material. But electric charge is. Just not a material you can make things out. But it is still matter, right? I guess I was just wrong.

@@efimmortal I agree the feel can be very very different, I still try and emulate film when editing photos because it has it's own feeling. I understand why people say it doesn't actually exist, and philosophically I even agree that it doesn't exist in the same way analogue things do. Fundamentally though, if it didn't exist, we wouldn't be able to interact with it.

I thought about it for a bit. Let's picture this: computer is an object. When power goes through it, only then it can emulate things with screen and speakers. If the signal is constantly off, nothing happens. But if the signal is 'on' only, it doesnt't show anything as well, right? I mean if components resieve 0 or 1 only. Computer has to switch between these two states to actually show something. So to generate content we need alternating actions + time. Does it mean that actions can be a material? Can time be a material? It's getting too philosophical even for my taste. Or I just don't understand how computers work.

Thanks I try to not mind the kids

Maaan I love Solar Sands. Too bad I didn't catch up with what he's doing these days

Ok

Nah I don't believe you lol

@@efimmortal Believe because it happened to me just now too. I saw Keygen and was like "is that coming back?" Got interested and here I am.

Oh lol what a good timing. KEYGEN dropped Tenebrae Rosso Sangue vinyl for the third time.

@@efimmortal Idk man my vids are very english speaking

@@efimmortal huh?

Update: KC just dropped Tenebre Rosso Sangue vinyl record yet again. At this point he's begging me to buy it. I would much rather have the Second album but it is what it is. I guess one limited edition is not like the other.

No, from one other fascist-terrorist state

But currently yes, I am in Israel

@@efimmortal lol from one fascist-terrorist state to another. You got terrible luck, bro. Free Palestine and the previous place you're from.

@@efimmortal lol from one to another. free palestine and the place youre from

No hope To end the war today. No hope For it to go away. No hope Remembering each death. No hope In grasping for last breath. No hope In knowing every name No hope To feel each other's pain. No hope To return home and sleep. No hope For memories to keep. No hope To stop and look around. No hope For human to be found.

Yeah sorry about that. Noticed how bad it sounds only after publishing. It sucks, but if you listen to the video on some crappy speakers it shouldn't be that bad

thank you :)

Окей

@@efimmortal так алгоритмы ютуба работают, бро. Поэтому и тематику в рамках одного канала менять бессмысленно - ютуб уже "запомнил" тебя как автора одной, и продолжит рекомендовать туда же. Но смотреть не будут. Тогда и рекомендации упадут. Итог: мёртвый канал.

This is not true. Signed, an american viewer

I'm American

Ты абсолютно прав. Поэтому под видео про музыку Хакиты он сам оставил комментарий. Очевидно, я настолько хорош, что он уже был на меня подписан.

Да, у меня монотонный голос

Thanks!

Это пятое видео на английском на моём канале

Окей. А у тебя есть мысли по поводу видео или нет?

@@efimmortal нету, я не хочу его смотреть. Без обид и тд и тп, да хотя зачем мне это писать? Произношение тебе реально стоит подтянуть, либо придётся смотреть без звука читая субтитры, но как-то не охота

Почему на произношение жалуются только русскоязычные? Очень интересно. Видимо, английский надо в России учить

Куда интереснее было бы узнать мнение англичан, согласен, хотя, что-то я не вижу в комментариях ни одного иноязычника

Прочитай комментарии под другими видео на английском и ты увидишь, что никто из англоговорящих не упоминает акцент

I think the way OMORI handles mental health is concerning.

@@efimmortal you know if you didnt like the game and found it offensive you could have just left it alone and not had to ruin it for the ones who like it. You realize that right? sorry for your trouble

You know if you didn't like the review and found it hateful you could have just left it alone? Okay, sorry. Just how am I ruining it for everyone? I just think that the topic of mental health and its representation is worthy discussion, especially with the game that popular. I think it's a good thing OMORI exists. I also think it's not so black and white. The game isn't bad. The game has issues. I just want to discuss it. But you don't want to, so okay. Walk away.

P.S. : in no way shape or form do I want to say Disco Elysium tackles the themes of mental illnesses in a same/worse way than Night In The Woods, this phrase just sounded a bit hypocritical

Конечно я буду его критиковать, потому что это плохая интерпретация, которая не то что не имеет под собой серьёзных оснований, но ещё и портит саму историю внутри себя. К тому же, напоминаю, разговор идёт об очень серьёзной проблеме - психологическое здоровье. Я не должен объяснять ещё раз, что не все мнения имеют право на жизнь.

Просто послушай следующее предложение после той цитаты, которую ты критикуешь.

@@efimmortal брат мой в христе, если какой-то чел в интернете по-своему посмотрел на игру, это не значит, что он запрещает тебе ставить себя на места этого персонажа. Я понимаю, если бы проблема была в том, что кто-то сказал "это единственно верный способ смотреть на персонажа и если у тебя нету таких проблем то ты не сможешь его понять" и все дружно захлопали. Один видит в персонаже одни черты, другой человек -- другие! А если какой-то псих начинает задвигать тебе, что тебе нельзя из-за мнения в интернете, то это проблема этого психа, а не мнения.

Я в описании привёл два других видео с интерпритацией, отличной от моей. Можешь посмотреть их и сравнить, где есть мнение, а где чувак тупо "Ой, тут как в *игра, которую я не буду называть*"

Это не первое видео на английском на моём канале, но почему-то на произношение жалуются русскоговорящие. Очень интересно. Специально для тебя, родной, я вернусь назад в Россию. Научишь меня, как правильно?

@@efimmortal брат приезжай в Самару Я всем гостям рад А так обидеться на критику это конечно сильно

Спасибо, а как ты узнал?

Nice finding. Imagine just scrolling the internet and than *bam*, you stumble upon one individual you know of. Fascinating.

@@efimmortal yeah... He actually reviewed ALOT of Vaporwave albums

I'll keep an eye on that. He probably found a lot of cool music. But yes... there's *a lot*. I can't even keep up with what he buys on Bandacmp. Thank you

@@efimmortal yeah he definitely did. And what about you, you know atleast something about Vaporwave right?

I heard of it, but it's not a genre of music I really listen to. I prefer electronic music to be active, unless it's Disasterpeace or C418. Saloli is kind of in the middle. Not too active, not too slow. I enjoy her stuff. As well as Ed Harrison's. Also, I don't really listen to him, but Ian Aisling comes to mind. Karbonic is interesting. Weird, psychedelic but nice. Sorath is... a mystery. Their Devil Dagger soundtrack is unbelievable. Omori (not the game, dead guy from Amek Collective) is abstract, depressive and heavy. He had a great future ahead of him, I believe. But he left us too soon, so we will never know the depth of his talent. And, of course, I listen to KEYGEN CHURCH. Really glad I found Vittorio, albeit way too late.

You listen to his game's soundtrack to fall asleep?

I have a hard time imagining how I would miss someone I never had. Maybe this is the problem. Maybe this is why I am so hard on the game. I wouldn't brush this review with just "what I wanted vs. what I've got" though. There are more important questions regarding mental health as a whole.

Like, just as I stated in the video: I agree with answers Omocat gives in OMORI. I disagree in delivery. I disagree that "Sunny is a better person" because she only tells us that he is, while showing the opposite; I disagree that the group are close friends, because the only thing that was meaningful to their friendship is Mari's death (after which they stop talking to each other), and yet we're shown this album time and time again as if it's magical artifact without which they're doomed; I disagree, that pressing a button is a meaningful mechanic that shows you how to cope and deal with hard topics. I also disagree that story-based game wastes more than half of your playtime on unrelated joke-grind while hiding important details behind walls of fanservice. These are problems that are not addressed because people only look at what they've been told to believe by the game. And that's fair. I am only suggesting alternative opinion which has valid points. OMORI is simply not a masterpiece. You aren't disallowed to enjoy it and find it meaningful though.

@@efimmortal the first part is entirely subjective since morals are a thing that has been discussed for eons with no end so I won’t disagree or agree on that it’s your opinion The second part is where I feel you have either never seen how sucide tears down family’s if not friendships or are underestimating it Every time they get together they remember a loved one who died without thinking of them without trying to even ask for help this leads to one of two things “She never trusted me” or “I made her feel too worthless to talk about her troubles “ Which makes the remaining loved ones feel guilty for the death And Maria death wasn’t something obvious she was still in good mental condition before her faked sucide so this just adds to how hard it was after that hero went uni and drowned himself in his studies to cope Aubrey feeling betrayed by both mari and her dad developed trust issues and Mel changed hobby’s and friends to try and forget the pain all while omori became a shut in how would they still be friends I find it less realistic if they did The third part I slightly agree with I think the dialogue surrounding the album is too childish for the characters but if done in a more subtle way it would work Fourth I think you are mixing the button to what is truly meant if your read what that button in the end does it continues the game or in the context of the scene it is agreeing to try to live with the truth since if u pick the opposite it will let you kill yourself

@@efimmortal I am not saying that all the video is about it but the way you put your opinion in makes it sound like fact when it is your opinion clarifying that it’s a problem you have in the game but not a problem that everyone will have is important

When you say that in the game friends get to think why Mari decided to die, and why she didn't tell them anything and so on, how does the game explore it? Is it unreasonable to expect that OMORI would explore the themes it tells the story about?

>:( Should've given you BIG wish to make music.

Are they turned on by default? Eh, whatever.

@@efimmortal they where on by default

I feel the same way. Looking at Bandcamp page, I saw almost nobody buying redherring.'s works. But it turns out they were downloading them for free. Website just doesn't register them as owners. How late am I???

Спасибо. В видео я отдельно указал 025, 028 и 035. Но кроме того, 032. Если я правильно помню, при первом прослушивании напомнил мне Satantango. Но я могу его путать с каким-то другим альбомом, мне нужно послушать заново

Вспомнил. Ещё есть 013. Я его хотел вставить в видео, но, к сожалению, эта музыка из копирайтнутых сэмплов. Пришлось вырезать.

@@efimmortal Спасибо большое что ответил а теперь начинается самое главное испытание - найти свободное время :3