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Powercolor 6600XT Missing 5v Rail Repair
The first of three cards sent over by a friend of mine - A Powercolor 6600XT. Made quick work of this one, I hope the others are the same! Keep an eye out for videos on at least one of the other two, if not both.
Feel free to ask any questions you have in the comments, I try to reply to everything possible!
If you would like a graphics card, laptop, etc repaired please send me an email at andrew@wasatcheletronics.com!
Feel free to ask any questions you have in the comments, I try to reply to everything possible!
If you would like a graphics card, laptop, etc repaired please send me an email at andrew@wasatcheletronics.com!
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How to Program New MP2884/6/8B Controllers
Просмотров 55810 месяцев назад
(Reupload because my video editing software decided to export the wrong version and I didn't notice...) A quick video showing how to program a brand new MPS (Monolithic Power Systems) MP2884/6/8B using the EVKT-USBI2C-02 programmer. I ran into some issues while trying to program a new MP2884B for a 3080 FE I was working on, and figured I would post the solution. This is assuming you already hav...
WHY Gigabyte Cards are Cracking
Просмотров 30 тыс.Год назад
My thoughts on the Gigabyte / Graphics Card crack issues making the rounds. Thank you to everyone in the GraFix Card Repair Discord server for all of the information we've amassed on this subject the past year or so. Shout-out to Phyro for getting this information out there, and Treezus for helping me with the video thumbnail. repair.wiki/w/Repairing_a_Cracked_Gigabyte_30_or_40_series If you wa...
1070 Ti Pex Short | I almost tossed this card!
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.2 года назад
A quick video on a Windforce 1070 Ti I was working on last night. I got extremely lucky with this one, and I'm still surprised it was actually repairable. I still can't believe I was 5 seconds away from writing on the die with my drill for fun. Thank god something changed my mind!
P106-100 Repair | No vCore | Missing EN
Просмотров 5 тыс.2 года назад
Hello everyone, I hope you enjoy my first video! I've got things to change for the next one, but please drop any suggestions or criticism in the comments. At the moment I'm stuck with what I've got for video, which unfortunately isn't amazing quality. This should be improved in the future, but I hope the content makes up for it for now. Doing my best with what I've got at the moment :) Enjoy!
Look up "Northwest Repair" for the GOAT of GPU repair and some good laughs
New knowledge✅
Hello What voltage did you use and what pin on IC to power it up? Do you think if I connect scl, sda, gnd and power from bench power supply to IC directly I could connect it successfully?
Sorry for the late reply, I figured I would still respond in case anyone comes across this. You'd want to check the datasheet for the chip, that will tell you which pin needs to be powered and the voltage. For the MPS chips I believe you only need a 3.3v supply (it's been a bit since I've done this, haven't fixed anything the past few months). Yes, you can do scl, sda, gnd and power directly from the bench power supply. It's easiest to just put the IC on the card and then attach a wire for power, scl, sda
@WasatchElectronics Hi Thanks for reply. I did like that. But the problem was IC that was delivered from Ali. It was already corrupted. So I used another chip and everything was fine. There should be some miliamps drawn by IC, and that is a sign of working IC.
Great video! Super helpful even though I am super new to motherboard repair. Where did you learn how to repair things like this, and what program where you using to view the motherboard schematics that allowed to you search for specific parts? Thanks!
Hey there, sorry I never replied! I'm not on here much currently. I started out doing basic repairs on phones, computers, tablets, etc. (screen swaps, battery replacements, hard drive installations, and other basic stuff), then gradually got myself into soldering various things. After that I taught myself how to micro-solder, and then I dove head first into fixing graphics cards. I had to spend some time learning electronics (still not the best, I have an electronics book sitting on my desk that I'll get around to one of these days...), how graphics card circuitry works, and then more advanced micro-soldering (bga work, qfn packages, trace repair, etc. I also used to do lots of damaged PCB repair, that's my favorite kind of work). I've been doing this type of repair for ~3.5 years, so just a gradual build of new skills over that time period! For the schematics (pdf's) I typically just open them in Chrome. Occasionally I'll come across one that doesn't like to be searched for whatever reason, so I use PDF-XChange to open those; that's what you see in the video
11:30 deam the 20xx are soo messy at the back compare to today 40xx
I tip my hat to your knowledge and expertise.
if you value your money, guys, avoid gigabyte products... for years they are making bad products...
I have a 1070sc works with 6 pin connector does not work with both 6 pin connectors any ideas?
User error, no sag support. Asus cards brake to, so does the MSI ones ...
Never ever gigabyte
shud i bought the 4070 ti super gigabyte gaming oc or Windforce/eagle one. rest msi and asus are expensive in india and i dont like inno 3d , zotacs , galax or colorful , im upgrading from Nvidia Rtx 3070 FE
So this shouldn't be a problem with smaller cards, like 3060 and 4060 with two fans, yes?
No way, I think I just burnt my laptop. I changed the MPS2940A and didn't know that I had to rewrite the configuration so I booted the laptop so the laptop shutdown LED is off forever CPU is shorted and 2 DrMosfet output 19V. I think the CPU is already dead
I don't know as much about laptops as I do about graphics cards, but - It might actually be fine. 19v sounds fine for a laptop, that's the voltage coming from the charger before it gets used by other converters or mosfets to power everything else. The processor is likely just a very low resistance, which is normal. On graphics cards for instance, the main power rail for the processor typically reads well under an ohm, probably .2-.5 depending on the card. Try programming that 2940A and see what happens.
@@WasatchElectronics 19V at the coils of cpu! should be max 1.2V
I dont have the device to program the QFN I dont thing its good idea to buy one if there is chance the cpu is dead @@WasatchElectronics
@@MLS.22 Oh 19v at the coils of the CPU. Ouch, that thing is definitely dead now :(
Sir, I experienced the same thing as what was explained in the video, the GPU is ZOTAC GTX 1060 6gb AMP edition, the component layout is exactly the same as what you explained and the problem is the same, only on the GPU that I am working on there are no missing components, so I want to ask how much voltage is in the components that you replaced, especially in the transistor pins, thank you in advance.
I just bought a new system. i9 14900 with a Gigabyte 4090 and Gigabyte included an anti sag bracket set. One bracket L shapped connects to the motherboard and the other connects to the end of the 4090. Then you screw the 2 together. Is this not sufficient enough?
They must be only including anti sag bracket on select SKUs. I have both 3080 & 3090 Aorus Master sku's. They do not come with a anti sag bracket. Mind you aorus master /extreme sku's are their top tier range and their not cheap. For them to include a bracket shows that they are aware that their GPU'S are cracking. Really they should make the PCB more durable. Back in the day they always used to tout how great their PCBS were. They used to run a marketing campaign called Ultra durable PCB talking about how many layers of traces they had over their competitors. Tbh their competitors marketed similar campaigns too. To me it does sound like they have cheaped out on the material used in the graphics cards. I hope they do make a better durable revision next time
really enlightening, def some things to consider when considering these cards. thanks for your video.
who buy gigabyte anyway?? 😒😒😒😒🥴🥴🥴💩🤌
like a week ago i boght my rtx 4060 eagle and learned this today :)
Great video, very informative, thank you! I'm subbed. Did you teach yourself everything or were there courses or larger educational programs involved?
Thank you! There's not a lot of graphics card repair information out there unfortunately, although it's getting better. I'm a mix of self-taught and getting help from others that knew/know more than me. I've had to (and still have to) do a lot of discovery on my own, especially when new issues arise that no one has seen before. Graphics card repair is probably 80% diagnosis 10% soldering, with a few exceptions
If not mounting vertically what about a GPU support bracket? I can find numerous types on amazon for 10-20$
I don't understand why this is an issue. Working on workstations and server's many years ago, the cards were supported on the front end with an adapter to make the card longer and that adapter slide into a slot on the back of the front of the case. Hope at least what I said make sense.
lately remove my gigabye 3070 iv noticed its getting preey hard to rem ove my gpu from the pcie! the latch on mobo would go all the way down easy useing my finger! could be nothing to do with gpu but thism video title defo spoke out me. be aware etc
After seeing a lot of cracked 4090 cards on youtube, I decided to add 2 more GPU support stand to my card, those smaller telescopic ones to help with the cooler master tempered glass gpu stand I used since day1.
is it impossible to make another attachment point to prevent this from happening? either the cardmakers or desktop makers needs to figure something out
отличные карты у Гигабайт. Просто не надо возить компутер с установленной в него картой или заказывать готовый. любая современная видеокарта должна транспортироваться в отдельной коробке и тогда не будет проблем. службы доставки всегда швыряют и пинают посылки. поэтому комп надо покупать отдельными частями в отдельных коробках и после доставки собирать самому по месту жительства.
Is this Topic Clickbait ? I dont think the Vid brings any news to the table. Jaystwocents, northwestrepair told us all that 6 months before. But you especially ranting about Gigabyte while on northwestrepair has around 20 cracked Asus 4090 in one Video. The Design of Pcb is a Problem but wayyy bigger Problem is that Gigabyte and Asus sell wayyy more Cards than other Manufaturers
My video was uploaded two days after Jayztwocents' video, for the record. NWR has some videos on repairing these, but not a video sitting down and talking about the issue quite like this. (I love NWR, he's a friend of mine and does great work) My video may have been a bit redundant sure, but there was also a lot of information not talked about in other videos (at least at the time). So no, not clickbait in any way. If I do another video like this again maybe I'll do some extra research and dive into more directly related topics, like pcb composition in this case. Thanks for the feedback :)
shud i bought the 4070 ti super gigabyte gaming oc or Windforce/eagle one. rest msi and asus are expensive in india and i dont like inno 3d , zotacs , galax or colorful , im upgrading from Nvidia Rtx 3070 FE
Problem is, construction and MASS of it !!!!!!!!!!!! Just put sideway and use Riser...
Just say NO to crack, kids.
Gigabyte is saying NO to honoring their warranties
If you are trying to kick crack, there's always the Rob Ford Center.
Management and marketing definitely rushed the design team and specified "all the options to be ticked" aka as compact as possible as well as powerful. Such a bad design philosophy, all of them. not enough space for thermal expansion either. I bet the designers are just getting the sev by everyone when really the motherboard and case manufacturers need to make a NEW layouts standard.
There is NO WAY any of these complicated boards are GOING TO BE REASONABLY RELIABLE WITH ALL THESE PATCH WIRES HANGING OFF THESE BOARDS !!! Why are you even bothering to debug and repair them ??? THIS MAKES NO ECONOMIC SENSE IN ANY WAY wasting your labor like this.
They actually are functional, luckily. I haven't personally repaired any of these cards since I attempted two at the beginning of the year, I've deemed them not worth the time. If I ever come across a cracked pcb board I now just take the components and swap to a good pcb. The problem is finding a good pcb though, since a lot are cracked, and you can't just order pcb's from somewhere. If it's something like a 3090 or 4090 it could still be economical to repair. It has to be the right pcb though with the right crack. Gigabyte likely wouldn't be worth it because of how badly they crack, but I've seen a few Asus pcb's with cracks in the same spot be fixed with a few hours of labor. Luckily those don't have nearly as many traces in the area, and their boards have a better design so the cracks are usually pretty small.
The ATX standard needs a rework perhaps.
I think the problem is that we're running into the issue of needing to pump more power into things to get more processing power, which means larger coolers. At some point (basically now) the world is going to have to figure out some alternative to the current construction or design of processors, or something that will allow for better power efficiency and less loss in the form of heat. Cards can't keep getting bigger and bigger. The same issue is being seen with processors.
I wonder how many of these were from someone grabbing there tower seat belt strapping it into their car and going to a buddies house.
Probably a decent chunk unfortunately
In other words, the GPUs should be delivered with riser cables, to remove the risk of this happening again.
That would be nice, but the cards being delivered in a separate package (for prebuilts) and with supports from factory (some cards have this now) would be enough to basically eliminate the issue
Non of that damage is user error, a PC's moveable object, it must be designed to be able to. Rule nr.1 in pcb design is : Pcb's shall not bear mechanical loads. The gaca designers just pushed it way to far since the gtx10 series.
I was so close to buying a gigabyte 40 series glad I seen all of this first.
Hey, great video! I've got a question that I'm hoping you can help with. My son was replacing the thermal paste on an RTX2060 mobile and knocked off possibly a resistor, and lost it. Any chance if I send you an image of the board you might know what piece is missing from that spot. We didn't have any luck with Nvidia or MSI. Thank you!!! Steve
Thank you! Sure, I can definitely help. It would probably be easier if you join this Discord discord.gg/GZR7DK5g and ask about it there. I'm sure that myself or someone else can look for a schematic that matches or is close enough, and help you figure out the component and the value!
@@WasatchElectronics Thank you very much! I'll forward the info to my son and let him post it on Discord. Thanks again!
Where he can get that shematic or board view? Thanks
It would appear that the manufacturer of these circuit boards leaves a great deal to be desired!!
I don't get why Gigabyte is so hellbend on keeping this flawed design with the cutout. It was normal with their gtx 1000 cards, but it started with the rtx 2000 series and continues all the way to the rtx 4000 series. Granted, with the 4000 series Gigabyte moved the screw hole a bit upwards but the stupid cutout is still there. They refuse to learn from mistakes, do they?
shud i bought the 4070 ti super gigabyte gaming oc or Windforce/eagle one. rest msi and asus are expensive in india and i dont like inno 3d , zotacs , galax or colorful , im upgrading from Nvidia Rtx 3070 FE
Great, detailed video. I never understood how cards can get so wrecked. I have all sorts of cards in quality static bags loosely togethor that are decades old. All work
Thank you! Mostly cards with back plates being tossed around with other electronics or cards without back plates, when nothing has protection. Either that or just someone being careless and scraping it against something, etc.
They are designed to break that's why they won't honour the warranty.
Cheapest basic metal support I've seen costs $4 retail. _Surely_ most GPU manufacturers can provide one of those in the box for their most expensive hunkin' tech-bricks? At the very least make _Pretty Damn Sure_ that every buyer of these chunkers is aware of the _need_ for additional support. One would think it would be in their own interest, preferable to reputation hits and RMA headaches.
would you please share me its boardview ?
I don't have any way to do that, and I don't know if I'm allowed to, sorry. It's pretty easily available through forums and repair discord groups
I got burned by gigabyte on a motherboard about 10 years ago. Board died 1 month after purchase. Did an RMA just to have them refuse to warranty it due to physical damage they caused to the board. I’ll pay $500 more just to avoid giving them a penny.
thanks for sharing, it was a pleasure to hear your voice again, looking for more videos...
Of course, thank you! Hopefully I'll have some more coming soon. Unfortunately it likely won't hold for long, I start up school again at the beginning of next year and won't have much time to make videos for quite a while. I'll do my best to get something out here and there, though! Hopefully something more on the technical/advanced side, instead of just basic repairs
I bought a Gigabyte 4070 Eagle without knowing about all this. Now looking at the PCB, from tear downs on the web, it looks like they actually learned their lesson and move the cooler mounting holes up and away from the usual cracking point. The card is only 800gr, but I still added a support for it.
The windforce doesnt come with a support bracket I believe. The Eagle would be the way to go for sure.
shud i bought the 4070 ti super gigabyte gaming oc or Windforce/eagle one. rest msi and asus are expensive in india and i dont like inno 3d , zotacs , galax or colorful , im upgrading from Nvidia Rtx 3070 FE
Hey I know the is an older video but hoping you might have some insight. I have a Sapphire RX6800XT that is missing the vCore. I don't seem to be getting the GFX_SOC_PWRGD out of pin 18 of the XDPE132G5D controller chip. Which means that the AND gate U506 is not outputting anything to pin47 of the PWM chip. VCC and the 1.8V_EN voltages going into the PWM controller are there. Would this suggest the PWM controller is bad?
I'd have to take a look at the specific circuit, but no EN (which comes from PGOOD of the chip for the previous power rail) usually means one of three things (there are a few more depending on the circuit but this is where I'd start): - The pullup resistor that's supposed to power that circuit is bad - You're missing the power that's supposed to power the circuit through the pullup resistor (3v3_aux or a similar secondary 1.8v/3.3v rail) - PGOOD is actually being pulled down by the controller or chip of the previous power rail. This means the voltage is technically there, but it's going straight to ground through the controller/chip PGOOD is usually what's called an open drain output, which means that it doesn't actually output any voltage (the pullup resistor is what supplies voltage for the circuit), it can only pull it down to gnd, or release it. If you have 0 or near 0 ohms on that circuit (at EN of the rail with no voltage, assuming you're checking the next rail in the sequence. Cards have an order of which their power rails turn on) with the card powered on, then either the controller/chip of the previous rail is fried, or the chip is detecting that something isn't right so it's pulling that PGOOD circuit to ground instead of releasing it. Usually the latter. This is where it can get a bit tricky, if you're lucky it's going to be an obviously blown chip or resistor. If there's no visual damage, you have to find the datasheet for the chip online, and go through various pins to make sure that everything is good. If you have power output from the chip and it's the correct voltage, then it's typically going to be something to do with the feedback or current monitoring circuitry. E.g. the chip thinks it's getting 3v back when it should only be seeing 700mV, or it's seeing nothing back when it should be getting .9v (these are arbitrary values by the way). It could be another number of things, but that's up to you to figure out! Everyone thinks that graphics card repair is difficult because of the soldering, BGA work, etc. While this can be true, the people who are good at graphics card repair had to learn to read circuitry and figure out how circuits are supposed to work (or that they're not working right), in order to fix problems that aren't obvious. And as I always tell people, don't just go swapping parts. Learn how to diagnose a circuit or chip instead, and you'll be much more efficient in the future. Not to mention you won't waste time soldering when that may not be the issue. Swapping or removing things should only be a last resort. Good luck :)