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Thanks for saying so Tom. Much respect ✌️🙏

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Hi. I feel both sets of fins are ideal for this board. It is more dependent on the wave type you are surfing. My suggestion is to get both an upright twin fin set and an upright keel (similar to the fins I've featured) and test them in various conditions. The main difference is the upright fin (CC) works well in quick transition and short waves which require responsiveness, whereas the keel style (BM) set will work in walled-up down the line style waves where you can draw out your turns and hold the rail line longer. 🤙🏼👌🙏🌈✌️

Thanks for the positive words. Yes I agree the Torus Drive is a great model, I also have this board and ride it when the waves are bigger.... Must be a great to test them in world quality waves !

Hi Miles, Thanks for the feedback. I'm 5ft 11in, 45yrs old and weigh just under 80kgs.

Hi Johan, I sized this one based off my shortboard literage, and then scaled that up by about 2litres. I normally ride my short boards around 28.5litres and this Twin Pin is 30.6litres. I hope this helps 🙏

Thanks Nick!!! Yeah I agree, so much great music out there!...I figured better to put great music to the videos than try to monetise the channel. I'm doing this for the love of it, and if the songs are appreciated then that's great too.... ✌️

Hi Michael, it's true that twins can be difficult when surfing backhand, it's because most guys like to pivot into the lip when surfing backside. For me I feel they go great as long I don't try to force the board into positions that it's not supposed to go. Obviously with a thruster you can put the board in vertical pivoting positions, where as with a twin you are much more laterally carving and letting the board find it's line on the wave .. this applies to front side surfing on twins too! The biggest mistake I see is guys trying to surf these shapes as if they were riding a thruster.... Which is confusing to me, those guys should just stick to thrusters if they aren't willing to surf the board with an open mind and approach. I hope this makes sense. 🙏

I love this board backhand. I surf a point break on a 5.9 and I’ve never had a board hold this well through the turn. It inspires ALOT of confidence. Epic review mate 🙌

Hi JH, The board I am riding in this clip is: 5'10 X 19 3/4" X 2 7/6 ✌️

Hey Dougie, so epic! I agree, when the waves are directional and have a bit of push these boards shine! I also keep mine for specific days... Glad to hear you are on the same program! ✌️

Hey man, awesome! I would love to review one of Joel's boards, how does the board you got off him go??? Are you up on the north coast points? He has great shaping pedigree and he and his brother Kye are both such great surfers. Thanks I will hit him up and see if he is into it!

Good point. I guess the purpose of these reviews is to showcase how a certain board may perform for average surfers in varied non-optimal conditions and then explaining to the viewers what we thought were the benefits and drawbacks from our personal experience. Hope you enjoy.

Hey Ben, Thank you for the positive comment. Hopefully we ca keep the content coming in 2022!

Thanks Ahiena, trying our best to give something unique and true. Shakas 🤙🏼

Thanks bro! Feedback is so appreciated. Yes these boards deserve proper waves... I feel this review highlights this point. Once placed on a clean piece of water the RTT comes alive everytime. ✌️

Agree with your point about bumpy surf and the RTT. Mine is a 5'7 which is bang on for my size and weight, and absolutely loves clean 4ft surf. I ordered a 5'5 mini pip for the bumpier more grovel days and it handles the bump much better- still with a torus channel. I Feel it's more due to deep swallow on the RTT that makes it feel stuck when the surf is bumpy, where the mini pip has a wide rounded diamond tail that releases super easy. Could be wrong but that's what I feel. Both have similar width and rocker. Great vid (although I reckon you could tighten it to 10 mins, no need to see the same wave thrice..) and good to hear Gary's thoughts. Happy surfing ✌

Hey Pinealism, I appreciate your feedback. Yes I agree, I may have ordered this board too long, this is my own fault as I specifically asked Gary to shape me something 5'10 in length. I also struggled to find decent waves for it, take a close look at the lip line of the waves and you'll see how unpredictable the conditions were to surf... I was simply attempting to figure the board out, rather than 'trying to style on it' as you say... But fair comment, I'll take it as constructive criticism. I stand by my review of the board, it really had its moments for me and I would be doing it a disservice to not persist and find some pumping waves for it to really shine in 🤙🏼 cheers.

@@surfbored it's a great review and I'm considering a board now from concepts 😉 The thing that stands out to me with Rasta is how narrow they are compared to the size of his feet, I see this all the time with riders when going by height and weight, the leverage of the foot compared to the width of the board is crucial.

Further more, twins/fish are so wide in the tail, that's why people aren't feeling as confident backside.

@@pinealism I agree 100%!!! ...Dave has huge flippers for feet, and you're right his boards seem alot narrower.

@@surfbored somewhat of an embarrassing topic with your shaper talking about little feet compared to weight and height 🤣 but once figured out boards go way better 😉

Hey Warren, Thanks for the compliment, glad you liked it! I work with a super talented (yet slightly accident prone) filmer. We are using Black Magic 6k pro body paired with Canon Cine lenses. 😎

Hey Duke. That's interesting, you're the second person to say that about the keels. I might have to get a set and try them out! I think that's the scene with Gazza's shapes, very sentimental, I broke a quad he made me a while back that was extremely sentimental to me... Never easy to accept the loss haha.

Thought keel fins are for crusing around but work so well in solid surf! I'm so looking forward for your next video btw

@@dukeflyingcow thanks! We will definitely review some keel options in upcoming reviews, just hope this thing takes off so we can keep doing them! So many good boards and shapers out there we would love to feature here! Let us know if you have any suggestions or requests also happy to answer any questions about the specific boards we feature. ✌️

Hey Mateo! Thanks for your input. Makes sense,... I should've asked Gary but it slipped my mind at the time. I'm stoked you're enjoying the reviews... Keeps me stoked to keep going! 🙏

Hey Alberto. Interesting you say so, I think you're right about the dimensions, perhaps a 5'8" would be perfect! I did specifically request a board around the 5'10" mark when first talking to Gary, I think that was due to my reservation around shorter outlines, but I think you're right! Gary also does a keel set that I'd be keen to try in this board, I think that would be good on a running pointbreak, this particular board felt like it was just waiting for a chance to light up, I am convinced it is ideal for really quality days and can't wait to get an opportunity in pumping surf to give it another go! Love to hear more about your experiences on keels and your superfish... 🙏

@@surfbored Hi mate, The Superfish is designed/shaped by Stuart D'Arcy, a true master of his craft and a really nice bloke. He's shaping my boards (7 in the last 3 1/2 years), helping me come back to surfing after a 10 year break. All boards are shaped after three or more feedback conversations. And I must say, they are all magic boards. Back to the Superfish, it has that old fashion outline on the nose but it does narrow down a bit towards the tail. He put a "vent", or a deep single concave in between the fins one this one, a 5'4"-20 3/4"-2 3/4" with a mid-soft rail at the front and a hard rail on the back. Well, the thing just flies, specially in clean conditions at a point break, on mid to high tide. It was made for keels and I have experimented with a couple, settling with a Morning of the Earth/Torren Martin model. They give the board lots of drive but still allows for tighter turns and tail releases when I want to (mostly accidentally, to be honest). For me, the highlight is putting the board on the rail during a bottom turn or round cutback and feeling the board gaining speed instead of slowing down. You can hear the fins cutting through the water sometimes. I can surf and have fun on knee high to shoulder high waves. I just avoid peaky beach breaks (South Straddie) and low tide barreling point breaks (Kirra, Snapper). It is also a great paddler, important feature for an old bloke like me. Cheers.

@@AMRcycling wow!!! Sounds so sick! Love going down the rabbit hole on this stuff... I hear you regards wave type and tides, I always have at least three boards in the van when I'm surfing, because every board has different optimal conditions, I advise anyone to do the same, check the waves first then decide which board to ride and imagine it (mind surf a few) before paddling out... Also love that feeling of acceleration through turns... A big reason why twin fins are so addictive to ride. Thanks again for your thoughts 🙏 ...I'll look into D'Arcy 👌

I got a couple boards from Gary a few years ago and had a similar experience. We talked once on the phone but he wasn’t very helpful. The whole business end of the transaction was a mess and he even got the colors wrong on one board. Haha. But the boards go great and I love them in the right conditions.

Ahhh yes the FishBeard!!! I'd forgotten about that model! Would love to do a future review on it! ...thanks for reminding me! Also, super stoked you're into the review. Always open to suggestions or improvements. ✌️

Thanks Neta. Means a lot. As long as you guys are enjoying it we will keep making these reviews. Always open to suggestions or questions from the twin fin community too. 🙏

@@surfbored I’ve been surfing the RTT for a couple of years now and it’s just magic! And your review truly do it justice. Maybe try one out of morning off the earth next

@@netasher4489 oh so good! Glad you also like the boards Gary makes!! I'll have to start selling the review boards to keep paying for new ones, there are so many great shapers out there I want to review!!

Thanks for saying so bro, appreciate you! It's just the beginning for 'Surf Bored', always open to suggestions on ways to improve the reviews or any questions you guys might have. 🙏

Mahalo! I'm glad you were able to see the point at where the board was able to shine. That's what it felt like to me, as soon as a decent pocket arose it was ready to fire!! 🔥

Excellent feedback man! I agree with your assessment, the CI Twin Pin I have is stock thickness and I love it, but wish the rail was pulled down a bit lower personally. I would be keen to know how often you ride your RTT and in what type of waves? I can't wait to get in pumping clean waves!!! 🙏

Hey Brett, Cheers mate I appreciate the feedback. As soon as Gary told me he was making his own fins I decided I needed them. I wanted to honour the concept as best I could, so let's let the shaper dictate these choices for us where possible. I really feel it was the waves, all you have to do is watch the lip line on the wave, so tricky and unpredictable for the most part. Every time I got it a clean section it went so well and never caught the rail edge. It means that I will be more selective and only pull this one out when the waves are more predictable in the future. There are moments in the video where I sneak a good one and you can see the board reacting super positively in those instances. 🤙🏽

@@surfbored yeah thanks for the reply. Had epic hollow waves in Cape Town this weekend and today was bog city. Twins definitely have a wave preference. Can't wait for the next vid man. Keen to see if you review the Album Twinsman. Out of my price range as boards in SA are about AUD5-600 for a custom but I've heard amazing things about them.

@@brettwilliams657 Hey man, glad you're getting waves at home, sounds like a rad place to visit! The Twinsman seems to go great for the Album team guys.... Always ridden in perfect grinding Snapper Rocks though, so yeah it would be interesting to test on a beach break. There are so many alt. Twin fin shapers out there... I wish I could test them all haha, will do my best to keep the content coming ! 🙏

Thanks James. How classic is that comment by Gary! That's honestly what it felt like riding this board... Who wouldn't wanna drive a Ferrari? The best way I can describe the days we filmed would be that you wouldn't generally wanna take a Ferrari out on a potholed ridden road, ideally you'd save it for the racetrack... Sydney waves are pothole ridden cul-de-sac's. Haha However every single time I found a clean steep pocket the board came alive... I can't wait to find some North Coast racetracks on my next trip up the coast! 💯

@@surfbored haha that’s the perfect description! You made it work really well though mate 💪🏽

Cheers Matt! Glad you're feeling it! ✌️

Hi Roger, thanks for your feedback, I hope you keep coming back for more! I think it's more dependent on the quality of the waves you are surfing, if you live somewhere with quality waves on tap I think you would love one of Gary's shapes. Just as long as we are honest with our own ability levels and expectations.

I’m a Northern Beches surfer too, so inconsistent waves are my bread and butter. I’ve been ‘reared’ on short boards/thrusters. I still enjoy them, but more recently have entered a sojourn into twin fins and am really enjoying the ‘toe dip’ in to this arena of surfing. Love the content. Thanks for you efforts and really look forward to more. I hope to try a one of Gary’s shapes in the near future.

Thanks Sam! - That really means a lot to me. It's a pleasure to make these edits, stoked you're into it man! 🙌

Damn, thanks Gus! I appreciate the feedback. We are just finalising filming of Ep.2 ...make sure to tune in for that one! Any tips or questions don't hesitate to shout out. 🤙🏽

Thanks man! ...we are currently filming for Ep. 2 feat. Gary McNeill Concepts. Don't miss it!

Sounds epic! I'll check it out! 👌

Hi Justin ! I was actually looking exactly to those boards, meaning the CI Twin Pin and the Tur Twin Pin. I’m 5’9 and was looking both in 5,11 mostly for beach breaks, steep fast waves .. so I would really appreciated if you can give me your feedback on your 5,10 tur twin .. is it fast ? Would you surf it on a 5 ft face beach break ? How does it paddle for you ?

@@surfbored hello! Thanks for the review… same question I asked Justin but on the Twin Pin .. hehe thanks !

I have a 4 channel Tur Twin Pin it's perfect for NJ beach break. All the manufacturers and retailers say their boards are great in all conditions and wave sizes. The TTP is the only board I have ever had that actually is. Got the 6'2, I can catch unbroken waves way out with the longboarders on it.

Hey man, Cheers! ...we are already onto our next review, excited to hear you're diggin' it! Stay tuned!

Hey Brett! Man, that's so sick to hear about the MR fins, I've never tried them so really makes me wonder what I'm missing.... We are currently working on trying to align with a fin system .co for future reviews, just so we have a wide variety for feedback - as you rightly point out - fins can make all the difference. Have heard only good things about the Fishbeard too, so that's epic that you love it so much. I've not had the chance of trying one yet unfortunately (so many board model options out there these days). Thanks for the feedback, obviously as we do more of these I'd personally love to get viewer feedback / advice / questions to keep the froth levels high for you guys, so hit me up with any suggestions and we will do our best to accommodate. Respect!