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I can't wait to get these rules printed up!!

F-4 Wild Weasels!!!! I wasn't aircrew or anything, but I was with the 35th TFW (Provisional) at Shaikh Isa in GW1! I was an E5 with the security forces out on the perimeter most of the time, but we had F-4G Wild Weasels. BTW, I just purchased Barren Sead on audiobook on Audible. I remember one night I was on ECP to the air crew quarters, and one of the, I think they were called weapon system officers, after returning from a mission, stopped and asked me how things were going. It must have been three or four weeks into the air campaign, and I remember thinking he was just a few years older than I was. I was 25 at the time. But he stopped and asked me how things were going, which I thought was amazing since he was the one going out flying missions and putting himself in harm's way. And I told him that. I remember him saying that he had about 5 hours before they had to start getting ready for the next mission, and how tired he was, and that he couldn't talk very long, because he was super tired and needed to get as much sleep as possible. The one thing he did say that I remember to this day, and that struck me, was how tired he was of being shot at. I was amazed that this guy was even taking the time to talk to me at all. Thinking about it now while I'm listening to the podcast, it's funny but it feels like it was about 15 minutes ago.

Coral Sea, hmm. It's funny because I'm reading a series of books by David Cameron that tell the story from the Australian point of view of the fighting on New Guinea between Buna/Gona, up to Kakoda and Isurava, over and through the Owen Stanley mountains, and on down to Port Moresby. I guess I always looked at the Battle of the Coral Sea as being something for the Navy, kind of like Kasserine Pass was for the Army. You've got to learn to fight sooner or later. We might have got knocked down in both of those fights, but we got right back up and kept fighting. From the books I'm reading right now, the Owen Stanley mountains are not the kind of place you want to try to fight an overland campaign through or over. I think those mountains were one of the reasons why the Japanese were trying to sail around and invade by sea. However you look at it, Coral Sea stopped that. There were a lot of naval fights at Guadalcanal where we got our asses handed to us also, but in doing so we ultimately stopped the Japanese from doing what they originally set out to do. To answer your question about Coral Sea, Just like the fights at Guadalcanal, they were costly as hell, but we did divert the Japanese from what they were trying to do. So in that respect, I guess I would call those victories. At the very least the people we lost weren't lost for nothing. Their sacrifices were not in vain and meaningless.

I live in Columbus Ohio, I've been going to The National Museum of the United States Air Force since I can remeber. My grandfather worked at Wright-Patt during WWII, and I used to go there all the time with him when I was young. Now two of the F-4s from the base I was stationed at in GW1 are in the museum. An RF-4 and an F-4G Wild Weasel, so I go there to visit those jets several times a year. My elementary school principal was a B-26 Marauder pilot. Got called to his office one day (my grandmother was a teacher there), and I spent the day looking at his scrap books and photo albums and newspaper clippings from WWII and listening to his stories. My two take aways I remember were him saying they used to call the plane the Widow Maker, and a super sad story about his best friend that was killed when they were practicing flying low level over the water, and his friend turned too low and a wing hit the water and pulled the whole plane in, killing his best friend. I was maybe 10 years old, and my dad had showed me how to build and paint plastic 1/72 scale models. I built a 1/72 scale B-26 for my principal, Mr. Hinton. I was told when he passed away, he had kept the model on his dresser the whole time.

I'm with Eric on game style play as far as if I notice an opponent missing a benefit and stopping to point it out...mostly 😁. I must admit though, that there are those times when the competitive fangs come out, and that doesn't happen. Napoleon's quote: "Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake", sometimes that applies.

A-7 Corsair?

Do. 335 gets a vote from me. I like the aircraft that actually saw at least one or two being built. F7F was the Tigercat (I think), and F8F Bearcat, things like that. 🍻

Omg, this episode is going to make me start to rant! I'm still just at the begining of the episode, but too many times have I seen in games where people who have very little experience in a game, start to bitch that the rules need to be changed because they lost "this way or that way". Brett or Steve, is right: GET GOOD; period!

Hangar 4...off to Audible to see if it's on audiobook! Discovered Silver Waterfall by Kevin Miller (to name just one audiobook, fantastic book btw) from this podcast! Ah, there it is ...purchased! I'm on book 2 (The battle for Isurava) in a 4 book series by David Cameron, on the battles in New Guinea. Between this podcast and The Unauthorized History of the Pacific War podcast, I've grabbed and listened to several audiobooks! I'm an Air Force Puke (dubbed so by my Marine son, lol), and served side by side with Marines in GW1 @ Shaikh Isa, 1/2 USAF 1/2 USMC. Marines had F-18s & A-6s. AF had RF-4s & F-4G Wild Weasels. I was only security forces and enlisted (E5), but have been an aviation fiend my whole life. My son used to know the CH53s by model type, and had some amazing videos of them. Those pilots are truly tremendous, I can't even put it into words. Looking forward to the audiobook! For people like myself, listening to discussions like this is very similar to the way you two described being in the squadron bar listening to senior officers relating "sea stories". I could listen to discussions like this endlessly. Just getting to the end of the podcast, and I can't wait to get to this audiobook. What an incredible discussion. 🥃🥃

Oh man, this is the PERFECT podcast discussion for clipping Decision Games 4th Edition R.A.F., which I finally got around to picking up. I had the original game by John Butterfield waaay back when it was released by West End Games, and it's been on my hit list for a long time to reacquire. Wow, great talk, I dig the tactics discussions!🍻

Great discussion! 🍻

I just went all in on Army Painter's full fanatic line, and their full Speed Paints 2.0 line. I'm super happy with them.🍻 Lol "We'll-talk-about-that-next...ladies and Gentlemen, these are the cats that I herd on a weekly basis" 😄😄 That World of Tanks video was really fun to watch, the guy doing the play by play was terrific! The ending out takes! ROFLMFAO! 😂

Awesome! Got me some watching -listening shows for tomorrow on my day off! I love Old Fashions! Try Chester Nimitz's version called the "CinC Pac"! An Old Fashioned with an added shot of rum! Been scouting out Warlord's Vanguard lately, looks pretty interesting!

Hi, where can I find the video from Missile Threat? ps. love your videos and Podcast.. very sad your shop is in US.. :(

Speed EIGHTEEN!!!! 😲 But no guns... yikes. 55 minutes in, I hope I didn't miss a close up of those F-4s!? I was over checking out the LPP page and those F-4s are not currently in stock, ☹️. Watching these vids is not good for my marriage, because my wife gets mad when I start buying more little aircraft! Lol! Man, these are super cool vids!🍻 Makes me wanna get to the next con and join the fun!

Oh HELL YEAH! 👍 Where's the F-4s!? Are those Super Sabres?! Freakin' super cool! 😎 I was Air Force Security Forces in Desert Shield/Desert Storm at Sheikh Isa with USMC A-6 Intruders & F-18As. Air Force jets were RF-4 and F-4 Wild Weasels. My son was USMC 2012-2016 (is USMC, once a Marine always a Marine). I stood post on the perimeter many nights with my Marine brethren though! My son says even though I was an Air Force puke, lol, I'm allowed to say Semper Fi to Marines I meet at work, Oorah! My Dad's brother was an artillery FO in the Army in Vietnam, flew in OV-10 Bronco's. All my brother-in-laws were US Army, father-in-law was 1st Cav Army, wounded in WWII in the fight in Manila. Huge Lead Pursuit Podcast fan! Oh no! 36:58

Listening to this makes me want to make the jump over to Workd of Tanks from Tanks! I have the precursor to this game, Tanks. Robert picking up the mike helped the sound immensely! Robert does excellent play by play! It'd be great to see some BRS games done in this style! Roberts commentary makes this vid just so fun to watch and listen to! Great explaining how they're all friends and making sure the listener knows they like to rib one another. It just brings out the friendship element that is so much fun in games like this when you're playing with your good friends.🍻 "If he's swearing loudly; it's bad. If he's not, he's OK."...Lol! 😄 😄 MVP award to Robert, for just absolutely terrific play by play on this! He definately has that "live poker game play by play" vibe going for him! Outstanding video! Sign Robert to a multi year contract and do more vids like this! I remember Happy Days, but not that episode! Great game Chad, congrats to Uncle Mark!

Well, this is the last RUclips episode posted. I'll go catch episode 122 on LPP page tomorrow.👍 It's been great fun listening to you guys the last 10 days! 🍻 The Italians need a set of custom dice like all the other countries.

Masters of the Air is definitely driving my interest in hobbying. Funny thing is I haven't seen a single episode despite having subscribed to Apple+ just for it! Lol, I'm watching the weekly review of Masters of the Air that the Unauthorized History of the Pacific War podcast is doing! I'll probably wind up binge watching it if I can get in the right mood for it! Don't ask, I don't get it myself...😄 EDIT: Hawk Widgets are definitely back in stock. Whoa... I'm worried about Chris now too... "That's the first time anyone has complained BRS is too realistic." 😐 HA! Now that end of show line has pizzazz! 👍😄

@ Brett, Undaunted is excellent! 🍻 @ Doug, Italian planes and aces arriving this week here, did you mention in one of the past episodes that there may be more Italian planes planned for release soon? Bloody hell, He-111s wings don't fit?! I'm tracking an order with He-111s now! 😱 Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking...🥃... LPP store rocks! When are you getting Tiffys and Franks and their aces?

Wings of Glory minis are 1/144 for the WWI minis, and 1/200 scale for their WWII minis.

I think I have the answer to the end of show line. There's a scene toward the end of the movie Platoon, where one of the soldiers gets orders to go home right before the last climactic battle. I think the characters name is King. As he hops on the helicopter to leave, he shouts "Goodbye Motherf****rs!" Its short, to the point, appropriate and offensive. I think it covers all the bases. ruclips.net/video/GmQ5VJIQekc/видео.htmlsi=KbbEfxBTcc8OvhQE

They've got the jet stream behind them in high cover! 😀

I'm up to just about 5 months ago on my week plus binge listen.

I'm primarily interested in WWII, but just like Steve said, aerial warfare history is super interesting, and I get the itch to go into the Korean, Vietnam, Desert Storm and post Y2K time periods.

Super freaking good listen! Thanks for sharing! 🍻

Good conversation tonlisten in on. 🍻

Got my Wing Commander a few days ago, looking through it. Brett & Steve; thanks for the awesome campaign rules! 🍻 Whoa! Hornby moving in with 25% of the stock! 😲 Lose John Russell?! Yikes! 😬 "Tanks sell better than airplanes"!😱 Nooooooo....I need alcohol to finish watching this episode! 🥃 My copy of Wing Commander has this written on the top right corner of page 1; "Warlord HQ Store Copy". Somebody wrote that in pen. It's pretty cool, but I have no idea why it's there or what it means other than maybe this was like a display copy or something.😎 "Buy it before Hornby destroys it!" Lol! 😄

Oh wow, I didn't realize that they had more Italian planes visualized. I wonder if they'll make to actually getting produced?

Oh wow, I think this one is at Legion. It's awesome to see this game on LPP! This makes me wanna go grab it! Wait... Linebacker II?! Sweet! 🍻 I was at Sheikh Isa in GWI, and it was half AF and half Marines. The Marines had EA-6 Intruders! The AF side flew F-4s, Wild Weasle and Recce. I always thought the Wild Weasels would be a good subject for a solo game. I was AF security forces, but grew up a huge aircraft aficionado, and built models of F-4s and A-6s as a kid. Now I go visit one of our F-4 weasels and one of our F-4 Recce ships in the National Museum of the United States Air Force, a 60 minute drive away in Dayton, OH three of four times a year. My son is a Marine (once a Marine always a Marine he says), out now, and he teases me as having been "an air force puke"! He says well, since you served side by side with Marines, he and all his Marine friends, they'll give me a pass! 😄 In all seriousness, I count my blessings each and every day! I'm a very fortunate soul!

When all of these videos posted last week, I thought I'd binge listen for the next week or so, and catch up. I listened to a couple of the episodes that were kind of current, and I heard Doug mention the Steve Toth memorial tournament. I thought oh man, Steve's dead! 😱

Catching up on LPP, closing the range.

I absolutely love listening to these kinds of discussions. The longer the conversation the better. Just fascinating to listen to this. Wow, the time on this vid seemed to fly by! Again, what a fantastic conversation! So glad I picked up Wing Commander! Can't say enough about how good this video is.

All the feedback on these two games that I've seen has been positive. You can never go wrong with nice aircraft artwork.

Cool vid 👍 The ending line in this I felt was...well, I think it was lacking an offensive component. Maybe it's just me, but I didn't feel offended at all. 😉

Oh heck, a book! Off to check to see if it's on audible! It was and I bought it. I subscribed to Apple+ for Masters of the Air, but haven't watched any yet. I find the older I have gotten, and ever since coming home from GW1, I've become super sensitive to war films. My son's 4 years service with the Marines just made it even worse. I know how lucky I was to make it home, and seeing films about those who didn't make it back just tears me up without any warning, most of the time. So I just avoid films, like a dork. What a great interview, I could actually feel this discussion.

I've made it up to 2023!🍻

Naked Germans! "More peckers than a barnyard full of chickens!" ROFLMFAO! 😂

Steve's in Cleveland, a couple hours north of me here in central OH (Columbus). P-40, my favorite WWII fighter. Not because it was good or great, but because it was what we had to hold the line with. That and the P-39. Sometimes you just have to make due with what you have. I bought 3 boxes of the P-40s, got two painted. One as British north Africa (what I think were the original shark mouths on P-40s) and one as Russian. My last box will be US and the classic shark mouths. John C. McManus wrote a fantastic trilogy of books (I audiobooked them) of the largely little known US fight in the Pacific, from the US Army point of view. Island Infernos, Fire and Fortitude and To The End of the Earth. In my humble opinion, Claire Chennault knew the limitations of the P-40s, and fought them using appropriate tactics in China. He had great success. The inexperienced US Army Air Forces at the outset of war, again in my opinion, tried to make the P-40 fit the tactics they wanted to employ, and paid a heavy price for their narrow view in tactics, in pilots and aircraft. Claire Chennault was quick to teach never fight (the zeros) fight. Never get into a turning fight with the zeros in a P-40.

Nate Rogers! The Gimpy Gamer! Nate is awesome! Sushi Suzuki... does he have an ace pack? 🤔 One of the things I thought was innovative about BRS was that the aircraft involved in the game were rated as a combination of both the aircraft and the pilot. Great listen on the interplay between the two. Hearing Doug's perspective is super interesting to listen to and one of the main reasons this is such a super podcast, in my humble opinion. Super interesting discussion to listen too. Hey! The Italians have come out! Doug said he'd feel a little better when he saw the Italians arrive! They're here! 🍻 Doug makes me feel like a little less of a dork for cutting the ace art out on the boxes and sleeving them, kinda like baseball cards. Just got McCampbell and Anabuki ace boxes today, and sure enough, no ace art. It's not a deal breaker for me by any means, but the ace art on the boxes was cool.

Is the master aircraft list the one listed in the Wing Commander book as the Ready Room Aircraft list? Haven't played P-38s (because I haven't painted mine yet) and I'm trying to follow the three stat line options for the three different models. Whoa! BRS 2.0!? Really!?

I just went all in on the Italian planes offered by Warlord, so I'm glad to hear the comments on them. Even got the bomber ace, which will be the first bomber ace for me. I'm curious about what the take on bomber aces is?😮

Did anyone come up with an end of show line? I guess I'll find out soon enough. "Alright, shows over, time to RTB motherf****rs." Hopefully that's offensive enough? 😄

Oh yeah, I ordered the card pack. I feel like I already have about 85% of them, but its worth it to get them all. Kinda sounds like the aces maybe aren't selling? I realize I'm seeing this about 20-21 months late, but personally I like the fighter aces. I'm kinda on the fence still on the bomber "aces". I preordered the Midway bomber aces when Midway was released, from MM. However they were in preorder for so long, literally months, that I gave up on the preorder and cancelled it. I think it was 8 months. My first bomber ace will be the SM.79 ace, which I just ordered. I'll probably pick them up after I get caught up on the Tiffy and Frank squadron boxes. The outakes at the end, lol!😄

Great episode.👍 Thumbs up for Steve's rant.👍End of show line, maybe something with RTB? Aces are one of the things I like the best about this game. I've just ordered 11 aces to try to get caught up. Still got a few bomber aces to go, and I see there is a Tiffy ace & squadron now, as well as the same with a Frank squadron box. Here's what a dork I am, I cut out all the ace art on the boxes and put them in card sleeves. Some aces didn't get box art, not a big deal. I got the original metal Kates, and they came in one of the green reinforcement boxes. To me, the aces are the real people who lived the history the game tells the story of. That's just me though, personal preference. Just ordered two Sabre aces and two Mig aces (that part of the podcast just played asking what aces could be used with Sabres). Personally, I love the ace packs. I grew up reading paperback books of/by WWII aces, so I love the history. Never Forget 🎗️ 💝

Great game designer discussion and listen. 🍻

The original BattleCry game from the Hasbro owned Avalon Hill, was the first game that my boys and myself played against one another. Memoir 44' continued that. Wings of War, now Wings of Glory, was another one that was a good introductory game.

LMAO at the opening! 😄 Chuck is an awesome guest! I have to laugh here, because a couple episodes back you guys were joking about the metal Stukas and Corsairs as a penalty "gift" for people. My metal Corsairs are done, and I'm currently working on metal Stukas! Blood Red Skies is like a box of chocolates, you never know what kind of material you're going to get the planes in! Lol! I've never worked with metal before, but I've made friends with it. Sorta 😐. Two more squadrons of metal after these, then I'm done with metal. Beaufighters and Me-410s my last 2 metal squadrons.

Love this podcast 🍻

Slowly but surely catching up to current. Listening to all these podcasts is causing me to place more and more BRS orders to catch up to current gamewise too! Wow, shipping from Warlord is a little on the higher side, but not too bad. I still like that free shipping on $100+ orders from MM.