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Ashton Drum Works is a comprehensive drum restoration and maintenance service with a passion for vintage gear. It is based in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
RESTORING A LUDWIG VISTALITE MARCHING SNARE DRUM
When this Ludwig marching snare drum came through the shop, it had its fair share of issues - including being covered with contact paper. Nick shows you how he tackled that and more in this restoration video!
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RESTORING A 1970s LUDWIG SUPRAPHONIC SNARE DRUM
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Join Nick as he restores an all-original 1976 Ludwig 14x5 Supraphonic snare drum that's in dire need of some TLC. The strainer's bent, there's dirt all over, and some rust is developing; how clean can it get? Follow Ashton Drum Works on social media! AshtonDrumWorks AshtonDrumWorks
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Hey y'all, I just wanted to provide some updates to this video. I've made some cuts to the original version of this video that RUclips says will be reflected soon. This is because the product I used to glue the shell back together has been recalled or in some way deemed unsafe for use, and I don't want to promote using it, just to be on the safe side. If you've used this product due to my recommendation, I'd like to rescind that recommendation and ask that you not use it without doing proper research on it. Feel free to contact me with any questions about this or any other restoration issues. Thanks everyone!
Wish you showed us the polishing process.
Nice restoration. Snare cord? Throw that away tout suite!
Thanks! Yeah, I wish those vintage P85s had more compatibility with something other than string.
@@ashtondrumworks2972 Yes.....I'd get rid of the P85 too. There are tons of alternatives (including Ludwig items) that are far better. I'm not sentimental about drum parts in the least. 🙂
Late to the party, wanted to ask if the Dawn bath will remove the date stamp inside. My still shows 1968 and don't want to lose it.
very interested to know about this also!!
What's that on 1:11 ? Don disho?
I was gifted a red vistalite kit about a decade ago, i cleaned it up and added to it, but what was sold as a 14" tom was actually a marching snare but was missing some of the hardware. Where is a good place to get replacement hardware?
Did i miss something, how did u fix the strainer?😊
I had no idea that Ludwig made marching snares out of Vistalite. I’m happy that you were able to re-glue the seam and find a leg rest for it. Well done. Any chance that you’ll come back to RUclips? It’s been 2 years.
Thank you for watching! I’ve got a few more videos’ worth of content on my computer, but have had a hard time finding time to finish them. I’ve been working on a dual Master’s/Law degree, and have had a hard time fitting the things I love into my schedule. I’m self-conscious about the content that I put out and want it to be the best it can be. I need to just suck it up and get back in the saddle
@@ashtondrumworks2972 Thanks for the reply. WoW, that is a full schedule. I'd say to invest in yourself first. RUclips can wait. Also please take care of yourself, getting all stressed out & overburdened doesn't make you superman. It only makes it harder to accomplish what you want to do. Peace.
Just put mine in the dish detergent.. Sunlight instead of Dawn tho. Thanks for the tips brother!!!
dude its wasnt clear for me the solution youve made. what is it that youve mix in the water? tia
Never Dull works wonders! Did you use the polish on the tension rods?
Usually just putting it on the top portion will be enough, mixing it with the oily threaded parts doesn’t do much
Looks great! I have gold drum rims on my Kit, Do you have any ideas to polish them ?
Thank you! Are your rims gold coated or brass coated? Either way, I would begin with a dawn bath like the video. I believe the Nevr-Dull will work well for other metals as well, since it will reinforce the clear coat on brass.
Great job! I have a 62' Supra, it's pitted really badly, I ended up just rubbing it down with a cloth after stripping the nut boxes, strainer and butt plate off, it's come up very bright but the pitting is no different all in all. I lean towards originality of the drum because it truly does sound unbelievable when played. Love my Luddy Supra. A benchmark for modern snare drums. 🎼🥢👍
Yes indeed!
would it be worth my time to use CLR instead of dish soap for the bath?
I’ve never used CLR on drum parts, mainly because I’ve been happy with the results I’ve been getting. If you aren’t happy with the dawn bath, it might be worth looking in to
Thanks for the dawn bath idea. I have scrubbed drums and hardware to get gunk off until my fingers were raw. Doing a few dozen lugs and all the hoops is enough to make you hate life but and it looks like just letting them sit overnight in soapy water does a lot of the hard work for you.
Work smarter not harder!
Amazing work! This is EXACTLY what we did to our Vistalite snares at my high school in the mid-1980s. Why? Because we had a hodgepodge of different drums, and we needed them to match. I fully realize what a travesty this was, but we had no choice. Uniform is uniform, man.
Thank you Greg! I definitely know what you mean-and it’s not always fair to judge stuff like this when you’re restoring it in 2020 as opposed to needing to use it for the upcoming game in 1980. In my marching experience there have definitely been times where we needed to do some suspect things to get equipment ship-shape. I appreciate you watching!
Hi i have similar ludwig snare but it has wood on the inside, what can i do so i don’t ruin the wood?
Hey! I wouldn’t soak it like I do in this video. Instead, take all the hardware off and wipe it down with a damp (not wet) non-abrasive cloth. Then clean only the metal part with a random orbital buffer. If it’s a shiny plastic, use Novus plastic polish (only numbers 1 and 2). If it’s actually metal, use the appropriate polish for that kind of metal. Let me know how it goes!
Not so much a restoration, but more of a cleaning video. What about the bent strainer? That would have been the interesting part to show. Anyone can disassemble, clean and reassemble one.
Great video. Go Gators :)
I just bought an identical '76 supra. Mine is in just as good if not slightly better condition. Gave $100 for it. Did you keep it or sell it? 🤔 Curious how much got for it if you did let it go.
I sold this drum recently for 320$.
I thought your glass table was a 30" Pinstripe for a minute.
What? Why not show us the sound of the drum in the end?? :'(
I’ve got some demos of this drum at a wide range of tunings with a nice mic, just a matter of getting the video together
Nice job! I will definitely use these ideas on the kid we've had donated!
nice bro grttings from arg <3
Nice!!! How do you avoid it getting rusty with the water bath!?
Thank you so much! The key is the Dawn dish soap. When it’s mixed in, you can keep it in there for a good long while without it getting rusty.
@@ashtondrumworks2972 Oh wow really!? Will have to try it out then. Thanks Ashton!
@@AaronChio you bet!
Hi, roughly how much washing up liquid (as we call it in UK) do you put in the water please. Might try this with an old tama I've just got.
WOW! That came out supra clean! Sorry, I couldn't resist.
😂😂
great job man
I can't believe you got that result, Amazing.
hey nick, does it gotta be dawn? i live in tokyo and can't find that brand 🥵 also interested in how u went about re stuffing the lugs. thks!
Hey there! Thank you for watching! It can be any dishwashing soap, to my knowledge. I haven’t tried anything other than that but can’t imagine the results would be too different. The lug stuffing process essentially entails taking the springs and swivel nuts out of the lug, then putting a cotton ball inside, putting the swivel nuts in first then the spring, and putting it back on the drum. Sorry I didn’t include that in this video-when I do it in the future, I’ll make sure to include it.
@@ashtondrumworks2972 got ya, thanks a lot. it's a tight vid, plz keep up the good work
Great video work. Nice job.
Nice job on the resto Ashton! It's always a great thing to save one of these vintage drums. I have the same snare in appx the same year, but with some pitting, more that I would like on two sides. What are your thoughts on having it rechromed and how much might that cost? I appreciate any thoughts you wish to share!!
Thank you so much! I don’t have a lot of experience re-chroming, but I have heard auto shops can help with that (to my knowledge). I’ve also seen a lot of cool examples of people stripping the chrome plating a la Acrolite and doing cool wire brush patterns on the finish-that’s a really cool way to make a player’s drum really pop. Check out some people’s creations on the different Facebook groups about Ludwig drums, there’s a lot of awesome resources there! Let me know if I can help with anything!
Chrome plating does not stick to aluminium so your new expensive chrome plating won't last forever either. In your shoes I'd rather go for what is now called "Acrophonic".
@@mellilore you mean stripping the chrome and polishing the raw aluminum?
@@distainsdomain6743 Yep!
Nice video and fantastic results brother. I wouldn`t personally polish outdoors on floor level in fear of the wind blowing dust on the shell, which could lead to scratching the shells even further.
Dope !
Hi friend! Fernando from Argentina 🇦🇷!! I was wondering if there is any liquid solution that can remove the rust and oxidation from the tension rods and any metal stuff. Thanks in advance!!!!
Hey Fernando! Thank you so much for watching! I’ve heard great things about WD40 Specialist Rust Remover Soak in the grey bottle. I’m looking forward to trying some out in a later video. I would love to hear what you think about it if you use it!
@@ashtondrumworks2972 Great, I will find out if that product exists here in Argentina. Any other idea of a more "hommy" (does that work exist??) solution? Home made I meant. I was told about white vinegar for example. Last year I used Coke without sugar and it worked.
What is inside the water? Iam from Germany I couldn't hear it exactly! :P
Hey Noah! It’s Dawn dish soap. Thanks for watching!
@@ashtondrumworks2972 thank you!!
Hey Ashton! Is this channel finished two vids in? 😞 Please keep uploading 🙏
Hey! I’m most definitely not done. These videos are just very intensive to make, and I’ve been very busy with school and work. I’ve got one new video that’s finished and ready to go and more on the way. We’ve only just begun!
@@ashtondrumworks2972 Great to hear man! Looking forward to it!
Hello nick and thank you very much for sharing your techniques! I'm in a bit of a pickle: Without researching the zoomatic strainer, I purchased a COB a few days ago that was missing the tension knob. I thought it was no big deal to replace but I'm really worried about this drum becoming a money pit. And I don't care about the looks. Any advice to make it playable? Thanks!
Hey there! I’ve had some experience with the Zoomatic and it’s always been tricky. Could you send some pictures to ashtondrumworks@gmail.com? I might be able to help you better that way.
@@ashtondrumworks2972 You bet. Thanks in advance for your help.
@@jeffspitza absolutely!
I got one yesterday. Inside it has a sticker the says ludaloy. Serial number is 1935787. I think its 1976, any way you could verify? Thanks in advance.
Hey! That serial number comes out to around 1978-79 range. If you have any pics, feel free to send to ashtondrumworks@gmail.com if you want any further comments on it (original parts etc). Thanks for reaching out!
thanks
Great job!!! Wow!!
Great upload! Very nicely done
Man I just picked up a Ludwig challenger 15x12 in orange sparkle. Same drum I played on in high school. Where can I find period correct leg rest and carrier bar. It has metal adjustable snares cAn I change it to synth gut ?
Hey man! DM me some pictures of your drum to my Instagram @ashtondrumworks and I'll be able to help out better.
Nice work, brother. Could have used a little more detail on how you fixed the strainer!
Thanks so much man! Just put it on the work bench and carefully bent it back in place. Will include details like that in the future!
This is awesome! Sounds good and it looks fantastic. I wonder what the comparison would be for it’s current value over the retail value, it is quite an old piece.
Thank you so much Avery! In 1971, it retailed for $106... about $684 today (according to some very quick internet research)!
That is Awesome! look at the one that I restore is in my profile "Ludwig 15 Challenger Series 1970's"
Great video! love the color on that Vistalite!
Hello! Very nice, quality video. One thing I would have liked to see was maybe a 30 second demonstration of you using the nevr-dull on the shell. Maybe on one of the rusted areas. I have a slew of share drums that need attention! Keep up the good work!
Hey there! Thank you for the feedback! I will be sure to include a Nevr-Dull demonstration in a later video. Thanks for watching!
I have a dark gray vistalite. It has been painted white, maybe interior house paint. Any ideas how to remove the paint without ruining the drum? Thanks for any answer. Nice restoration on the red one.
Hey Jerry! I use Jasco Semi-Paste paint and epoxy remover on wrap finishes with excellent results. I would imagine it would work well on acrylic, too, but just to be safe, I would apply some on a part of the shell that the lug covers and see if you like the results. Then, do the whole shell if so. Thanks for watching!
@@ashtondrumworks2972 thanks, I have some painted wrap also. I'll let you know how it goes.
Jerry Sumner yes please let me know!
What did you add to the water. Sorry, my hearing not so good.
Dawn dish soap!
Is that dish soap a normal one? I am in Argentina and would like to find any similar solution. Thanks!!