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Someone can correct me BUT: Pre-BAD DS40 is handwired turret board, SB might be the same. Both are PCB after BAD, but the PCB's are very sturdy and look great. The V1 minis are handwired. TS is PCB. You can look up some gut shot threads on thegearpage too.

@@mikedfurman That’s interesting as well. I’m sure the reason for that is, because Dave’s got minions working for him who are proficient at soldering, but not necessarily amp building. When I saw the SLO PCB, I about swallowed my balls. Although, the PCB on the SLO with the purple wiring did look cool, I have to admit. It’s not a sound, or even “robust” issue. It’s what I’m paying for. When I open an amp at these obscene prices, and don’t see meticulous, well-organized wiring, it’s a turn-off. If it’s going to be on a PCB, even with high-end parts, it might as well be soldered by a robot in China, as far as I’m concerned. Perhaps that’s unfair, given a military spec PCB, is most certainly more robots and durable. You’re not the only person to have that opinion, so it’s probably just me. But, at $4+K, when I pop the hood and see a PCB it’s a turn-off. Especially, when companies like Ceriatone are still doing turret boards. At least when I got my Yeti 50 it was. Anyway…. Very cool info. Thanks for the reply.

Pcb or turret board, it's the same. You pay big money for good amp, well made. Turret board or not, that don't give a better sound. Sorry my 2 cents.

@@madjack4691 ….all the power to you. For the money these guys are asking, I just assume sweat the little things. It’s not a sound thing, it’s a principle thing. It’s been long since proven that a PCB sounds just as good. But, $4+K (for the head alone) is a LOT of money for what amounts to $500-$700 in parts (if not less). The SLO now is PCB, but back when Mike was making them in Seattle, short of the electronics a lot of which he had custom made, he made the entire chassis, with fabrication equipment in his car shop. You truly felt like you were getting his blood, sweat, and tears (so-to-speak). And, ironically, the amp was cheaper when he was making them. But, I digress….obviously, there are a lot of people that don’t mind. All the power to them. Not sure if it’s hand-wired, P2P turret, or not, I have yet to “pop the hood”…but, I do love it. 👍

@@phillamoore157​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠ the SLO has always used a pcb. Sure, it was updated when bad started making them but most seem to agree it is very much for the better. I had one that was originally purchased in 1989 for either 1300 or 1500(my memory is fuzzy on that) which translates to around $3500-4000 in todays money…I’d personally rather have a new one with modern construction and reliability. Marshall has used pcb’s since 1973. I have built and modded amps for a long time and I despise the “handwired” nonsense. Point to point in high gain is always more noisy no matter how much of an “expert” the builder is, turret boards are great for modding but not better than pcb in any other way. For whatever reason some people also seem to think pcb mounted pots cheapen amps but anyone with any actual experience would know how much more reliable they are. If you think you are getting a better value by imagining your amp was wired by some highly skilled artisan who puts his soul into each heater wire twist and can adjust his soldering iron temperature by smell…I guess go for it. I’m not going to go too far into detail but the assumption that the cost is too high because the parts cost is “low” comparatively is failing to account for all the other overhead related to doing business. The profit per amp is not huge.

I did.. it came out great. I am thinking of doing a twin sister (2 channel) version

@@craigkimble4585 nice! I've been drooling over the TS sadly, I cannot afford it.

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