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Men seem to want to be women so badly and vice versa, makes me wonder where all the misogyny and misandry comes from.

smukase says: "Men seem to want to be women so badly and vice versa, makes me wonder where all the misogyny and misandry comes from." == Unlike most gay culture in other countries, big majority of "Onna-gata" is female. It's more closely related to today's "Yaoi" culture than gay culture which is supported by other men. It's actually considered as an art form rather than culture. There's no cultural movement behind it like LGBT. There's a similar art form you can find in China. They just don't have as much "phobia" outside of Western (Christian) countries. No amount of explanation will convince you this. It's in your blood.

allgoo19 What do you mean "it's in my blood"? I know of yaoi and what it's supposed to be about, yet misogyny has somehow managed to creep inside. The love for seeing two males get romantically involved has started to translate in women bashing. As in, the mangaka deliberately introduces female love interests so that they can be let down harshly. This same passive aggressive behavior happens in yuri as well, though not as often. And this is what annoys me, this never ending circle of misogyny and misandry, especially within the homosexual community. This is what prompts the phobia, it needs to stop if we're gonna get along.

smuskase says: "What do you mean "it's in my blood"?......." == It's your cultural upbringing, everything you thought was normal, like homophobia and being afraid of nudity. The Westerners don't know that in the human history, that wasn't considered normal. They though Egyptian art was obscene, they thought Pompey culture was immoral, so they tried to hide their discoveries. They did the same to ancient Indian arts, Japanese arts and so many others I'm not aware of. Christian culture IS the oddball of human history. In the human history, homophobia and fear of nudity wasn't normal.

allgoo19 Oh I understand now, but just a word of advice, it's not wise to make assumptions online about strangers. My culture is not western and I wasn't brought up western though I get your point. Maybe you assumed that because of my command of the English language, I get that as well but I am also not a Christian. Lets not get into all that though. Thing is, you are wrong, homophobia as it is known in modern western culture is a new concept, yes, but so is homosexuality as a lifestyle. The ancient world didn't have this understanding because homosexuality as a lifestyle was simply unthinkable. Many ancient cultures have practiced homosexuality for convenience, spirituality, magic rituals, art expression as you put it etc but never as an openly or lawfully accepted lifestyle. Even the Greeks and the Romans who are infamous for this and other forms of erotica, practiced it privately or ceremonially, as a part of the culture, not a lifestyle. E.g. a man could not lawfully take another man as his husband, but he could have a male lover who would be openly acknowledged. True homosexual love existed, but again, in private. And in public areas acts of homosexual love were tolerated in some of these cultures, not accepted, there is a difference. This applies to the Japanese samurai culture as well. I know it's contradictory but like I said, the Old world did not practice nor understand homosexuality within the context of the modern world even though people like to take examples from it to try and defend an argument. This is a common misconception.

女性じゃないんですか？！

やっぱりそうなんですね。声に多少違和感があって！ 　声聞かなかったら姿形、所作　女性です