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Yes, they've incorporated voice to MIDI. Here's how they describe their implementation - svdocs.dreamtonics.com/en/synthv/advanced-usage/voice-to-midi. I have no use for this feature personally, so I have never used it, and you won't see a tutorial on it, but there are others out there.

@@themidimachine Thank you!

If you're using Synth-V Pro, you could try splitting the voice into two tracks - in the VST version, its in the Settings panel, and in the standalone version its in the Render panel. In both cases you're looking for the option that lets you split the aspiration channel. You could then apply different processing (EQ, compression/transients) to it. You may actually be able to do it without splitting the channel with EQ/compression, but I think splitting the channels would make it easier to get the result you're looking for, especially if trying to make the transients have more attack. The official manual is here - svdocs.dreamtonics.com/en/home. Go to svdocs.dreamtonics.com/en/synthv/plugins/instrument#configure-audio-channels-for-output if you're using the plugin, or here - svdocs.dreamtonics.com/en/synthv/basic-usage/render#render-audio if you're using it stand-alone for details of the options for splitting the voice.

@@themidimachine thank you so much for taking the time to reply. Inspired by your comment about the actual mixing I studied the levels in more detail to see that most of the bits I was having issue with were quite quiet looking at the sound wave, it sounded fine solo but in the mix was lost, so I lifted the levels on the bits I had issue with and that made it much better. Sounds obvious and a bit dumb of me not to consider that before but I guess I assumed the vocal was all correct and natural with levels. I still think the diction on the hard constantans is not quite perfect but that's a pretty minor complaint given the overall amazing brilliance of this software Anyway, thank you and I'll enjoy future videos by you.

Hard to see on the video, but at the top of the Piano Roll section, over on the right hand side, you should see three horizontal lines (the burger!). If you click that, and then choose "Add Parameter Panel".

k240MkII. They're okay. My hearing is shot to bits to be honest, so I'm not particularly fussy as long as there isn't too much bass build up, and they're nice and light, which the 240's are. I like open style, and since I don't do tracking in my little studio, bleed is never an issue. Have you compared the two? I also prefer using monitors (I have a pair of Dynaudio BM5A's (The original ones), that I've had since around 2007... still kicking along. :)

@@themidimachine I have AKG K240 600 Ohms and K702. Little clear high freq have K702 and stronger bass around 100Hz, but that is steal week. K240 is so old headphone, MK2 is new one. K702 have clear sub bass :D I found EQ correction for K702 and using all the time for mixing. You can feal different with and without on bass and high freq. I have Sennhiser HD 599, and trust me for clear sound AKG is the winer! Sennhaiser have boost bass around 3dB on 90-120Hz i think and so close sound, bass dominating. For epic music, orchestration, scoring, jazz, acoustic .... i think AKG is the best choice. You are like me, or I'm like you for no need for bass a lot :D Thank you for your answer. You got new sub 😊

@@filipmilojkovc6146 This is the first non-Sennheiser headphones I've owned in over 25 years. I used to have a pair of HD650's at work, when I did a lot of classical recording. I loved them and the bass certainly wasn't hyped on those. But I've also had other Senn's and I don't feel I can trust what they give me. The K240's aren't as good as the 650's, but they are about 1/3 of the price I paid for the 650's, and they are decent enough for me these days. Thanks for the sub. I've been having trouble putting new content up... hoping to improve on that!!!

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It's very easy. It's part of a workflow. I can put together a quick video tomorrow night if that would help. The workflow I use is incredibly quick and natural.

@@themidimachine That would be really useful, thanks. I’ve subbed.

@@Tolbiny Hope this will explain it... ruclips.net/video/9zibPuKszpw/видео.htmlsi=BfqeyU3idpSnqS1V

Yes, she really got overshadowed. Might have been a mistake for Dreamtonics to release so many voices simultaneously.

Yes, accents are an issue. I'm not sure if its the same with all languages, but as English speakers we seem to want to hear singers without strong accents, especially sounding like English isn't their first language. Even Natalie gets criticized from time to time over this, but certainly many consider Weina unusable, and even Sheena is borderline, so many of those that are not specifically intended for English speaking tend to get ignored except by those looking for a very specific sound. I think at this point, we have enough voices to not need to compromise on things like this (even though we still need more new voices!). Its a bit weird that this is the case, and I have no idea why it is.

Both great choices! What kind of music are you creating with them?

@@themidimachine a variety of styles but i usually use Saros for operish high notes on metal or cinematic tracks!

@@jesus4pincho Interesting, I must check this out. I did a bit of a shootout for metal, and I didn't even include Saros because I didn't think the diction was right for it, but I'm glad to be proven wrong, and maybe I need to update that.

Thanks for adding your review of these extras. I've never considered them because of their vocal characteristics, but they do all deserve to be included. It's hard to find good demos of these voices doing original songs. I've heard a couple of Eleanor Forte AI that sound pretty good. I think the others just go too far on the anime side.

I'd be happy to share my SVP file if you like. I'll grab it later (it's on my studio computer). I don't actually do much in the way of micro-editing. Pitch editing I only do when something is way off... dynamics we obviously need to instruct Synth-V on, but again, not really micro-editing - more or less just broad sweeping changes in tone or mood through a song. I trust the programming of Dreamtonics/Eclipsed for the voices I have, and don't feel the need to do much with the vocal lines I write. I'll add a comment later with links to a couple of SVP files (one all as written, and one converted to Manual mode, so that you can retain Hayden's pitch info with other voices even when you don't have Hayden).

A Better World is now available for download - www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/o5s4pg97s61gzrszul6fi/A-Better-World.zip?rlkey=5dqu24ivmr8cyv6oishn16qx0&dl=1. It's a 58MB zip file containing a wave file of the piano accompaniment and two Synthesizer-V svp files - one is designed to be opened with Hayden and the other has been converted to manual mode, to keep Hayden's pitch info, while being able to be opened with any S-V voice. Note that I did not manually tune Hayden's voice to make it sound like it does - it was all done by Synthesizer-V.

​@@themidimachine wow thank you so much 🤩 ! can't wait to try it with other voices i have (even female ones). aargh, have work tomorrow, but this made my day! Such a beautiful song, and such a generous creator, thank you 🙏

@@themidimachine Is that just one voice? I'm wondering how a double would sound or even a triple with a high and low track slightly mixed in for body? I guess I'll have to get it. The outlay is kind of a mess. They should copy Ableton or some popular Daw. But I guess it's Japanese. And I know they have a thousand ways you can customize the vocals but I would be inclined to just keep clicking the redo button. Too many choices causes stress. Ha ha ah!

@@hannahbackward This is just one voice. It's an acoustic piano and voice. I'm not sure why you'd want to over-process an obviously acoustic track like that. When you say "the outlay is kind of a mess", do you mean the user interface? It is certainly not the best part of Synth-V. A fresh colour scheme could do wonders for it, and that aside, I'm not sure what they could do to parse all that information in a clearer way. Just because you have choices, you don't need to avail of them. Most of my vocal work with Synth-V is pretty basic. I don't like the idea of micro-editing, and rarely feel the need. I do change dynamics to match my vision for my song, but not much else.

Yes, I don't think any other Synth-V voice would get anywhere near on this one. I must finish it some time!!!

Yes... speaking has a natural cadence right? It strikes me that Spanish has a fast cadence... would that be a fair statement and if so do you notice that Spanish songs also bias towards being sung fast?

...and by the way, it looks like cadence is the word I should have been researching for the rhythmic part of emphasis and flow. I always think of a cadence in the context of chord structure. Lol

@@themidimachine Yes, cadence is a great word to describe it. Words in spanish usually are longer than in english, and we like to use a lot of adjectives to describe action and subjects, so the songs tends to be more '''wordy'' an thus we pronounce more syllables than the usual song in english I think. So it feels that we sing faster.

...but which one is more memorable? I think at least for a non-musician, you're more likely to remember the second one, and so as a device for popularity, if you can give someone an ear-worm, they're more likely to come back for a second listen. Combining the two concepts to give a push-pull, will give you interest and a memorable hook for the best of both worlds. It's proving tricky to find some theory driven research on this specific device, and I'm coming to the conclusion that "idiomatic" certainly isn't a word commonly used in this context. Still researching...

On the subject of language, I was wondering whether language makes a difference, and in particular to those writing in a language other than their native language. I can't speak fluently in any language other than English (and I have trouble with that sometimes LOL), but I imagine fine nuances of word stresses might affect the ease of idiomatic writing. Mind you, I think we all have trouble with it, especially when we haven't been trained formally and also when we want to avoid the super-predictable phrasing. When I started out with Synth-V, I thought that you had to use parameters to emphasize words and syllables, and that was kind of too much work for me. It's quite recently that I realized when you write naturally, the syllables emphasize themselves to an extent.

I must admit that I don't use the Dictionary, but I don't see that working in this case, because its two different pronunciations of a single spelling. You can only put a spelling in the dictionary once, so yeah, its fine if its all you ever use, but either could be right in this case depending on context. There are a number of mechanisms that you could use. The one I might otherwise use in this particular case would be to simply mis-spell the word - red vs. reed would work in this case. I was simply using one of the mechanisms for figuring out phonemes. The reason I've never really got into using the dictionary is because it doesn't often mis-pronounce a word. In fact, I find it pretty uncanny how good it is. But I appreciate your viewpoint, and I'd also be interested in knowing if I'm missing something here about having two words spelt the same in the dictionary.

@@themidimachine Hey there, I apologize if I came off aggressive. What I was trying to say is that you do not need to add a word to the dictionary to use the phonemes feature it offers. IE: You could type "reed" into it to see the phonemes and then edit the word "read" into your piano roll. I was simply suggesting that the extra clicks of changing to the pen tool, adding a note, editing the lyrics, and *THEN* Copying the phoneme to the other word and then deleting it, could be removed by just using the "Word" field on the dictionary tab. *I* don't save words, I was simply sharing that you could. I do a lot of metal/hard rock with this application, and there are a lot of syllable broken words. Learning that "Dee/Luge/shone" is needed instead of "delusions/+/+" is tricky :) I'm also using Richy and Hayden as whisper vocals in RAP mode and adding a truck load of distortion to achieve metal vox...and it's working. I wish they'd come out with a hardcore singer, but I know it's not their target audience. Mai helps with sounding like "Baby Metal" :)

@@davidnovin200 Hi David, I didn't get an aggressive vibe. No apology needed. Sorry if I gave that impression in my response. I tend to try and say stuff with as few words as possible, and it can give the wrong impression. :D All good. I get what you're saying now. BTW - did you create your dictionary from scratch and just add words as you come across them, or did you import one from somewhere as a starting point? They tried the hardcore with Nine-Zero. Not a great choice IMO, but hey, I guess it was new ground for them. Eclipsed Sounds looks like they're open to suggestions for ideas for new voices. I saw something, I think on their Twitter account about encouraging people to e-mail them with ideas. Could be an idea. Bet that would be good! I know I'm looking for a Chaka Khan, so that's what I'll be campaigning for, but send them an e-mail, and may the best man win. 😆

@@themidimachine I just created a new one, and saved it. I only have like 5 words in it right now. Mostly I use this for demoing new songs for my singer, and words he pronounces in unique ways get added to my dictionary. Otherwise I just use the word function if I need to find a phoneme. The other thing I like to use it for is to use words that sound like WHAT I want them to. intentional mispronunciations, as it were. :) I love that this tool exists, but as a metal song writer, I don't see it replacing my singer, who sounds like Max Cavalera of Sepultura. No AI is gonna give me that tone :)

Thanks for your comment!

I had the phoneme checker as my desktop for a while, but honestly, I found it quicker to think of a word with a similar sound and put it straight into S-V to find the phoneme I wanted, because I never had to leave S-V. It hasn't failed me yet as a technique. But it depends how you work. I guess a printed phoneme checker stuck to the side of the monitor would be even quicker. I think flow is important, and anything that breaks that - even leaving Synth-V (in this case) for a second, cuts the flow and gives the possibility to forget what you're doing. Especially for old people like me. 😏

No matter how much you think other nations butcher the language, it is still English. You can change the pronounciation of some words to make them English sounding, but you would certainly expect an American singer, for example, to use American-English.

@@neiljopson8138 No idea what you're trying to say here.

​@@themidimachineugh he's just a Brit supremacist. Can't blame the companies for making the voices American, it's literally the most popular accent when it comes to anime dubbing, even if I don't like it. I have managed to get Ritchy to sound like a Brit with some success, actually, so it's not like these models are too rigid.