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I like how Joffrey was sometimes surprisingly reasonable and displayed some intelligence. Gave his character just a little bit of complexity I think.

Out of context he seems soo innocent in the scene with tywin, Like if tommond was 10% less of a coward, It's soo odd, usually he'd be more petulant

The problem with imposing men like Tywin is that they impose themselves on their family too. Tywin's obsession with power and control meant he would snuff out any aspect of his children that could overshadow or overcome him and his narrow-minded vision, even if they were net positives to House Lannister. That's why he kept trying to force Jaime into being his golden heir, despite Jaime's clear lack of competence or interest in such matters. That's why he forced Cersei into political unions that ultimately only seeded strife and brought enemies closer to his family. That's why he undermined Tyrion's evident genius and cunning as he did not fit his ideal. And here, he decides to belittle and impose himself over Joffrey just to exert his superiority, despite Joffrey making sensible observations. Tywin, for all his talk of legacy, did everything to undermine and extinguish any real growth within his family.

Tywin not taking the dragons seriously was an extreme oversight from him, borderline out of character. I would expect assassin's to be sent out immediately to attempt to kill the dragons.

Honestly. Just a little bit of good parenting, and aging. And a little bit of Tyrion actually shaping him up to be a better man instead of always mocking him. I believe Joffrey would've been a great king.

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"Armies win wars all the time". Except when there are dragons, lol.

I actually see some potential in Joffrey. I believe he'd actually could be a prudent decision making and a good leader if he had a proper adult to guide him but it seems like all the male figures of his life that are involved in the political decision of the crown (Tywin, Tyrion, Jaime, Robert) seems to ignore him or chalk him up to being an imbecile when I reality the kid's cruelty and impetuousness is a symptom of his insecurities, as he mistakes cruelty for hardline decision making and machismo. And his behavior is further exacerbated by his mother's doting and ingratiating. What Joffrey needs is for ego to be grounded into reality, and that can come from a strong father figure who is involved in the Game to guide him through such difficult decisions. I also believe that Tommen had also been befallen of the same unfortunate fate as he too was also put in the difficult position of being a leader with little experience and no guidance, though unlike Joffrey who externalizes his insecurities through cruelty it seems that Tommen internalizes his insecurities which in the end led to his ultimate fate. 😢

You are being councilled at this very moment..

Yeah it really seems up until they SEE the dragons that no one in Westeros takes the threat of them remotely seriously. Except Joffrey.

That’s what Danerys had, the ONE ARMY that Robert the Usurper talked about 0:06

Joff shoulda married dany. Joff is hot. And dany got dragons. Dany could let joff burn them betchs down. And still svkk his big white veiny blonde dyjk at night. That woulda been gloriouz. #duh

So allllllll this happened cause of an impetuous little fu*cker called little finger..........

Only a bootlicker would think Jeffrey was right about anything.

One of the few moments where Joffrey shows some intellect. A Royal Army may be expensive, but it makes mounting a defense a lot easier.

its funny how in the current setting of GoT it took a mere 300 years for the denizens of the realm to see Aegon and Balerion as nothing but legends and myths. When in reality it couldn't be more true

Quite literally the idiom; "A broken clock is right twice a day."

The way Joffrey looks around completely incredulous when Tywin admits that Daenerys *does in fact* have 3 dragons. It's like he's saying; "Is this dude fucking serious? You guys see this shit? Is he seriously "unconcerned" about *3 FUCKING DRAGONS?"*

Joffrey if he made it to Season 8 Joffrey: See? You see!? Dragons! I told you grandfather! Tywin: What do you want, a knighthood? *scoff* Joffrey: Men, seize him. I want his head on a spike! *guards hesitate and remain steadfast* Tywin : You are dismissed, men *guards leave* Tywin: As for you, you little shit. I suggest you go cower with your mother someplace dark while me and your Uncle Jamie try and figure a way out of this mess.

Joffrey is a better aemond , ruthless but smart

Joffrey in the show is so much more fleshed out than in the books in my opinion

1:49 300 years ago was Aegon's conquest. Which Dragon DIED during Aegon's conquest?

I guess you're so focused on how much of a little bastard he is you kind of miss the moments when he actually has the right instinct and everyone kind of just steps around him.

"There aren't a thousand blades... Not even 200!" - GoT Set Designer after seeing the throne.

The reason the other lords have their own armies is for two reasons. The first being for kings like Joffrey and Aerys II who both mistreat the people the other lords armies are meant to deter the kings from becoming tyrants under threat of rebellion. The second is so the lords can defend their lands and people they lord over themselves instead of waiting for their possibly tyrannical king to maybe send them soldiers to help.

😂😂 joffrey moment 😂😂 , why did viserys get married to any sand or the Martells

(In the afterlife after watching Daenerys and Drogon burn King’s Landing to the ground) Joffrey: “Curiosities on the far side of the world are no threats” you said. “Skulls no bigger than an apple” you said. I told you we should have done something you old fart! Tywin:……..

Even Twyin was arrogant enough to underestimate the dragons, even Joffrey had more common sense!

Joffrey is crazy and from times to times ha had good takes lmaoo

What would have been Tywin's reaction if he was in Jamie's place when Dany and her dragon attack the lannister army 😂

Thank god Tywin never lived till Season 8, he would have shit in the Hands bed at the sight of Drogon

I love it because Oberyn def didnt need Tywin.

I do wish the universe was more consistent with the universe it created. Specifically Baelish counting the swords. Isn’t it documented that they changed the throne from Viserys time?

Was Joffrey g*y

😮😮😮😢😂😂😂

If joffery wasn’t a psychopath I think he would have been quite a good king, he was smart and cunning, just applied it to being a total cunt rather than ruling effectively.

If Joffrey was just sent to Casterly Rock the moment they caught him mutilating that cat, I genuinely believe Tywin would have straightened him out and turned him into a phenomenal ruler.

Tywin needs to get his facts straight. Balerion died around 200 years ago not 300 :D

As if i needed a new reason to hate Joffrey he spoiles HotD in this scene 😂😅

Damn I wish joefrey & Tywin got to see them dragons & tremble

Joffrey was stupid cruel and degenerate but for a brief moment he made the righest point of the series. 😂😂

watching this after hotd hits different

This is the way

The one time Joffrey is actually spittin fax but he‘s immediately dismissed

It was a rare scene of Joffrey acting wise in the face of and against the position of Tywin. Of course, it could just be that Tywin was downplaying the threat so as not to set off the loose cannon that is his grandsons. That wasn't a typo, it was an incest joke. Now Cersei remained a fool to the end. Foolish here in doubting the girthy threat of a dragon, like Balerion's skull that outsizes you isn't under the freaking Red Keep. He grew that large, hence they can grow that large, YOU have no idea how long it takes them to grow that large, and still the misplaced bravado. Foolish in the end when she believed elephants would save the day. Although I don't 100% fault her character for that, everyone became stupid in those last seasons.

Viserys had nothing but hate and jealousy for Dany. He wanted to be considered "The Dragon", when deep down he knew wasn't a dragon of any kind. Viserys was too stupid to understand that these people were only returning the love and respect that his sister had shown them from day 1. No one would want him to be king after seeing how treats his own sister!

Joffery was the King that Kingslanding needed afterall😂

Little finger n his never ending useless inputs

Tywin and the experts.

Tywin said that dragons haven't won the war in 300 years and first I was like... yeah? But then I realized they did not win in Dorne and also in the Dance it really was armies at the end, not the dragons. Even the small Stepstones thing was at the end not won by dragons.