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a third circle is empty, no?

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Tell me the joke!

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the hypocrisy of ... (Arendt)

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23:39 *counterculture* “Psychoanalysis is… Lacan always prefers the term _subversion_ doesn’t he? Not revolutionary-but subversive. And I think that’s probably accurate.”

I don't think this is a good understanding of disability awareness. Nothing gets flattened, but people do get a little more confidence about expressing their negative experiences that were previously brushed under the carpet or, more often than not, hidden behind closed doors. That's why so many people are getting triggered into hatred, because they can't cope with the negative message that diversity and equality implicitly carries, especially the negation of the able person's positive self worth. For example, someone with severe depression entering work in a call centre and being enabled to work there despite feeling constantly miserable and suicidal. The attempt by management to force them to 'cheer up' can be seen as discrimination, hence forcing the negative into the everyday in ways previously unimaginable. The pathological 'smilers' no longer having an advantage from their cheerful attitude.

Suicide sends you to another slice of multiverse, even worse than the last. That's my empirical observation after four experiments. However, I'm not sure how big the sample size needs to be for it to be convincing to others.

This seems all rather too rational for me - calculative address approach either/or S or D - it could work in some version of cognitive therapy - but it seems to me suicidal ideation evokes feeling states that can appear overwhelming a real challenge to being-here-and-now and need ‘care’. Rather than the antinataralism zeitgeist of the moment and ideas like ‘Mars is better than earth’ as no sentinel beings are suffering on it - but i do like the glasses and the conceit of presentation.

ffuicide, as Hume first wrote about it was the death of God, or the domination of a particular version of God, even the secular protestant version called 'work'... Go On Ring In Sick 😊

"I spend my time advising suicide in what I write and advising against it in what I say. This is because the first case concerns a philosophical issue; the second, a being, a voice, a complaint..." E. M. Cioran in Drawn and Quartered at pg. 118

Never apologise Julie.. This is such a fresh way and honest way to view our human existence. I have studied psychology for many years and found most of it superficial and redundant

Death is man's equivalent of the air for Kant's dove: an unavoidable and necessary irritant. Trying to transcend every human suffering by denying its omnipresence or compulsively invoking the silver lining as god's saving grace surely feels like a naïve childish delusion. Relieved to see that I am not the only depressive realist juggling with such pondering on the daily. Thank you both for your time and thoughts on the matter.

I've been sitting here wishing I had fish to throw at the big fly that keeps landing on my head and running away. And then a fish appeared in my screen, as though to taunt me. I'm wondering, could it be that death and suffering are a consequence of the laughter drive?

My memory is cloudy from all the benzos (Peterson also ruined my reputation on this), but ironically through memory I always conected Bergson's theory of laughter and death drive. Laughter as a detachement from the "circle(us) of life" so that weirdly we can fall back on it once again.

It may be that women are less inclined toward depressive realism, as such a perspective conflicts with the intrinsic drive to create and sustain life.

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a Zizek and Deleuze synthesis via Kristeva ~ Vigyan Bhairav, perhaps as read, say, by Ibn Arabi imagine that ...

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37:28 Alfie echoes Zizek here-danger in narrowing/closure of cancelation/political correctness, the danger in the disappearance of joking, in the policing of trolling/laughter/play.. Zizek, Why Political Correctness Gets In Its Own Way, Big Think interview (2015): “You know once I made an interview where I was asked how do we find reactionary racism. You know what was my answer. With progressive racism. Then, ah, ah, what do you mean? Of course I didn’t mean racism. What I meant is the following things. Of course racist jokes and so on can be extremely oppressive, humiliating and so on. But the solution I think is to create an atmosphere or to practice these jokes in such a way that they really function as that little bit of obscene contact which establishes true proximity between us. And I’m talking from my own past political experience. Ex-Yugoslavia. I remember when I was young-when I met with other people from ex-Yugoslavia republics - Serbs, Croat, Bosnians and so on. We were all the time telling dirty jokes about each other. But not so much against the other. We were in a wonderful way competing who will be able to tell a nastier joke about ourselves. These were obscene racist jokes but their effect was a wonderful sense of shared obscene solidarity. And I have another proof here. Do you know that when civil war exploded in Yugoslavia, early nineties and already before in the eighties ethnic tensions. The first victims were these jokes, they immediately disappeared. Because people felt well that, for example, let’s say I visit another country. I hate this politically correct respect, oh, what is your food, what are your cultural forms. No, I tell them tell me a dirty joke about yourself and we will be friends and so on. It works. So you see this ambiguity - that’s my problem with political correctness. No it’s just a form of self-discipline which doesn’t really allow you to overcome racism.”

This explains a lot! I wish I hadn't waited till I'm almost 50 to hear this.

Wonderful, thanks for sharing!

Thank you so much for your book, babe! 😎

Maybe Non-psychoanalysis is the next step from Negative Psychoanalysis... Brassier's Laruelle would be perfect for this!

But isn't Julie Reshe also relapsing back into jouissance, when she dedicates her negative book to her daughter, for “making her death WORTH living”? Maybe nobody (living) can (fully) coincide with (their own) negativity…?

Creative Destruction circa 1913 and 1942. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction

I don't get why accepting that life contains negatives is somehow depressive. How is dying so bad? If you did not die nothing would have any meaning. I just had some religions women on my door, and they claimed they would reincarnate and live forever. I then explained to them and they would simply die again and again in really silly ways, like trip on the stairs they just climbed to get to my door. The other one just plain out denied, she would never trip. The other at least understood the statistical reality that yes you would trip and die but apparently god would just make you alive again. There would be no meaning in a life like that. Everything that could happen, would not only happen but happen infinite times. Every moment would be expandable. That would be depressive. Because we die, every moment is unique. Because we die we have meaning.

Sounds pointless. If misery loves company then being miserable in company is counter to the espoused negativity.

I love Reishe’s work! Never taken a “demotivational course” before, but I want to. Hopefully I can save enough money for this 13-month year long course soon!

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Great presentation. Mark Epstein, author Thoughts without a thinker’ is both and psychoanalyst and a practicing Buddhist and might argue that ‘transcendence’ is simply that, the recognition that there is no thinker behind the thoughts, only consciousnesses. This is not the model of transcendence in some Buddhist traditions of a long journey towards an eventual Nirvana. Similarly Sam Harris (who Julie might see as part of the problematic positive psychology movement) is a Dzogchen non-dual proponent who continually emphasises that there is only consciousness and its contents and that this reality, which is right under our noses, can be pointed towards with the right practices. This doesn’t cure our lack or suffering but it can ease the burden of it. There also seems to be lots of historical anecdotal evidence of long term meditators ‘experiencing’ a dropping away of the normal sense of an embodied self, as there can be when taking LSD, that may last seconds or even weeks, following a return to normal suffering but with a new insight. This might also be called a type of transcendence, that for a tiny minority might be achievable. Looking forward to your book.

Wow, this hit close to home !

I’m reminded of Cioran’s quote (paraphrasing) “Those who go through with it and commit suicide are failed optimists.” We been so conditioned to the idea of “I need to be happy!” Or like Camus’ comment “we MUST imagine Sisyphus happy”… anyways, love your work.

I have watched a couple of your videos and find the content interesting. I myself have 20+ years of clinical experience as a psychologist working with people that have severe trauma: survivors of war, torture, sexual violence, etc. This video piqued my interest as I have also been practising Buddhism (mainly Vajrayana) for around 20 years. Is there any way to get in contact with Jason Ross? I would like to discuss some points with him.

I was thinking about the qualitative difference. What if it's just in how high your highs are and how low your lows? Meaning, if you absolutely refuse to acknowledge the inevitability of suffering, at the start of your cycle you will be extremely hopeful and excited for the possibility of ultimate happiness, and then extremely disappointed when you fail. So the more you accept the limit negative, the more it just mellows out the curve. Kind of like the difference between falling in love as a teenager and falling in love as an adult.

I spent fourteen years standing in the corner of a room holding up ornaments, but even being my best shelf wasn't enough to make me happy.

why have u subbed to my channel? just a question

giving up means hopelesness and despair, there is no salvation, no redemption, no way out. You only have death and nothingness to look forwards to

Hello. Very interesting and refreshing work. I really feel you bring something to the table. Having said that, I see something that happens so often which is speaking about current psychoanalysis refering to Freud. Its like speaking about current physics refering to Newton. Have you study Lacan's revision of Freud? There is not death drive, there just Drive, that is deadly because it can be mix with repetition. Anything that cannot stop can be deadly, even "positive" things. The psychoanalysis goal is not restored anything. And sometimes even people with no chance of "improvement" can be treated. Sometimes they can stabilized. When you describe in the end of the video the "fantasy" is really obvious to me that you havent study Lacan. Of course we all have to live in a fantasy. We live by desire and desire always implies some imaginary. I agree with you, everyone is traumatized. Using language implies a trauma. Its not the same enjoying things that having to verbally ask for them. Accepting language IS already a loss. You can see that in autistic child. They refuse to speak. They refuse to be "traumatized". Fiction is neccesary. Even to write a book and having a RUclips Channel implies some fantasy. Thats more than ok. Best regards from Spain

Great work, Javier; I really like the distinction and think it's useful to think that, wherever we end up in life, there is something we will need to "give up." I think that is true; life is marked by offerings without guarantee.

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Great talk, Javier! I really love this distinction between quitting and giving up. Thanks for your work. 🙏

Adam Phillips (psychoanalyst) latest book “On Giving Up” is thought provoking. I really liked your talk Javier. Thank you.

why, sacrifice ? ~ and who's terms? Power of Horror? Bojan Radej is looking at the very same thing just now ...

Maybe I'm missing the point here but the claim that the sun is made of egg yolk has more scientific value than the claim that there is a "death drive" motivating human behaviour. Plus, there are so many other models to explain (self-)destructive behaviour than an alleged "death drive". The common denominator of self-destructive behaviours is that they feel great in the moment you do them, but they have adverse consequences in the long run. Cutting yourself, shooting up heroin, killing a supposed enemy, going on a shopping spree you can't afford, they all feel great the moment you do it. Dopamine and so on. That's it. One can indulge in the concept of a death drive as a way of leisure activity but should never include it in any actual work with clients or patients

Favourite psychoanalytic concept??? It’s the Transference silly. Or the Seduction Theory. 🥲🥹😵‍💫😈