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This makes a lot of sense. I look forward to finding out how this shift affects the quality and content of your work

Im sorry im the one who stole it

It does! Your message is clear.

Do it 💪 wish you all the best 🪷🔥

both perspectives are true. They are not opposites of each other, they are conclusions to each other. The way I took Jacobs point is, you do your stuff on your mountain for yourself, and then once you discovered the stuff that moves you, you walk down the mountain and share it with people "look what I found up there". And then you walk back up and see what more you can find there.

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Vielen Dank für dieses tolle Video

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ich kann aber so nicht in einer app auf dem ipad zb in safari zeichnen und das anzeigen oder?

I appreciate this video so much 💖

Danke, wirklich sehr gut erklärt! Jetzt kann ich endlich beginnen an Tutorials und Lernvideos zu arbeiten.

sehr gut, klasse. Vielen Dank!

Saying a lot, without saying anything at all. Nothing of value here.

Danke für diese einfache Schritt für Schritt-Erklärung. Endlich verstehe ich das Setting!

Rick Rubin has recorded Raining Blood. Jacob wears funny sweaters.

Wow, I can't tell you how much I needed to hear this. I'm an aspiring artist and I've been struggling with the social media aspect, mainly because I felt trapped into following trends and playing into the algorithms when that just isn't who I am. To me, my art has real meaning and I feel that it can help others as it has helped me, but felt it necessary to replicate what has worked for others in order to be heard. Just knowing there are others who value depth and substance gives me hope that I can build a community while staying true to myself. I really appreciate this.

Of course trust! Someone I relate to is much more likely to get my attention and money l.

Hallo, könnten Sie mir sagen, was Ihre Quellen zu dem Video waren?

Music is an expression. Some people, I guess, like to be on 'top of the mountain' away from extraneous factors, influence and noise because they feel like they can be true to themselves and more introspective.... Did Rick say these artists come down mountain eventually to share their work or did he say the public need to walk up the mountain to listen to the music?? Not sure... I didnt read the book ..... Like, Jacob, some musicians are fuelled at the bottom of the mountain amidst the noise....

Never listened to this guy before he trash talk one of the greatest producers of all time. He’s definitely trash.

guter Tipp. Danke, ziemlich easy, ziemlich praktisch

good video man keep it up. do things the way you want

Creativity is a form of communication. Ideally, a form which transcends the boundaries of colors/sounds/words/motion in novel ways. This form of communication can be aimed at the self trying to commune its innermost identity (Rick Rubin's point), or, the self trying to commune with someone else's identity (Jacob's point). Both, obviously, are right. Creativity can be communication in either form. Rick's point, is that in order to know what you want to communicate to the world around you through creativity, you first need to develop a personal sense of creative taste that is YOURS, rather than trying to chase the tastes of others. Notice that Jacob stated he made music for himself many years BEFORE making music for others. So a good resolution here, is START OUT by making music and art motivated by trying to please yourself and your own tastes, until you are confident enough in what "good" and "bad" is to YOU that your individuality won't be destroyed by chasing the approval of others. Then, once you have that individuality and backbone, if you choose, you can try to make music and art for others by identifying the forms of "good" you honestly agree with, that they might ALSO agree is good. Doing it this way is less like "letting the world's opinion destroy your artistic individuality", and more like "curating the forms of your artistic individuality the rest of the world might enjoy."

There's a vestige of that epiphany within me now...nice! Thanks! RIP oh most lovely soul MOSHE!

I think Collier understands music on a root level. His songs and covers just warble on and sap away real human feelings. He is AI.

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Jacob Collier only makes garbage music

I've met people with similar personality types to Jacob. They ego identify with things they do to the point where they start to believe they are in some way unique for possessing the talents that they do or for being a creative person in general. So when someone like Rick Rubin comes along and says "anyone can be creative", it threatens how they feel their creativity is different or special because the environment they grew up in sheltered that mentality. I'm not saying their creativity isn't unique or special, but people like this tend to forget that everyone's is just as unique and special. Rick Rubin preaches unlocking a part of ourselves that is shut off from the world by oppressive forces people like Jacob probably never had to face. Jacob talks to trust fund hipsters at colleges who have been able to foster their creativity from their lofty seat of privilege. When they wanted to learn something new as a child, there was no "oh, well that will be too loud" or "that wont make you any money when you grow up", which is what most musicians hear their entire lives. To even assume someone can just be "uncreative" is almost classist in and of itself. I personally find Jacob's music kind of boring. When I listen to it, I feel like he's desperately trying to impress me with his virtuosity and it kills the vibe of the song. Trying so hard to be so perfect that he forgets to let Jacob sing. Humanity is not perfect, so to try and make your music as perfect as possible is going to make it less human.

Rubin will be remembered. Collier will be forgotten. I could be wrong but I'd bet everything on it.

Rick Rubin is a genius producer Jacob is a musical genius. Neither one is false or wrong. Different individuals do what's right for their art. They are from different generations. Jacob grew up with this fans paying him and enjoys making art with them. Rick helps artists find their individual voice and does not consider selling music in the process of making it as it can be a distraction. Different times and different schools with different thoughts.

dude, fast subscribe for "...if you didn't know who 'they' were you wouldn't have clicked on this video..." appreciate you getting to the point!

Jacob Collier: "People who know what they're doing don't make interesting work" Also Jacob Collier: *Know's everything* Also Jacob Collier: Makes some of the least listenable albums ...curious...

The opening line of Rick's book, "Nothing in this book is known to be true."

Really explains why Jacob simply cannot make art.

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As if any of this will ever move souls towards beauty, it’s just a poshy academic ppl diss. Trap ones are more enjoyable.

There's not even a clear-cut definition of "art" or "creativity".. The closest you get to a concrete definition of "creativity", is something like "lateral thinking", which happens in human brains all the time, whether making a sculpture or grocery shopping.. Synthesizing novel ideas from existing ones is "creativity".

Wtf did I just watch??

Talk about misconstruing an idea. Jakob agrees with Rick, he just doesn’t know it yet

Truth is generally relative and Rubin is well aware of that. He has done a lot of TM and I suspect a lot of what he says comes from there. Collier probably does not have this background and may have misinterpreted Rubin. e.g. When Rubin says the audience comes last it does not mean the audience doesn't matter, but rather that the creative process should be personally and inherently satisfying for the creator, even before a potential audience is a factor in the equation. A personal example is the covers band I played in. For weeks I was playing famous guitar solos (e.g. hotel california, bohemian rhapsody- that kind of thing). Audiences love it and I like to make people happy but after you've done it a couple of times it can get a bit repetitive and a feeling of personal emotional investment is lacking. I think that's what Rubin's referring to. It's not a slight on audiences. I know a guy who is not hugely introspective and plays exclusively for audiences. He loves it and so do they. Maybe the distinction is between 1) entertainment and 2) creativity as a path to personal, emotional and spiritual development. I tend towards Rubin's outlook.

economy, sure, but more like, enlightenment scientism values. Try convincing them of how necessary your humanity is.

this is so wonderfully expressed! incredible work

music and art is so subjective that things such as "right/wrong" or "should/shouldn't" become nearly irrelevant

incredibly well shot. Thank you for this.

Beautiful. Thought about writing more but sometimes more is done with less

you're such a dummy

Am I the only one that thinks that we really need at least a 3 hour podcast with Jacob and Rick

This all feels very high up in the chest and throat, very ego driven. I don't like Collier's absolutist rejection of what Rick has to say. It feels contrived and unnecessary. Rick has a way of speaking about art that leaves things open ended and malleable as art is. Jacob's takeaways from Rick sound as rigid as some of his music.

i think hes the musical equivalent of eminem, its too good that its gross

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