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Although I (obviously) like Zoom Rooms for our worship, I'm guessing that using it will not fix your audio issues. Things you might look at are: - Make sure everyone else on zoom is muted - try a different microphone (audio settings on zoom allows you to select from whatever microphones are available) - try different noise removal settings in your zoom audio profile (also under audio settings)

If you look at the revised version of this video, you can see the mixer -- ruclips.net/video/e3SOU56Meqk/видео.html at the 4:26 mark. It's an old Bogen C-35. I think the church has been using it for years.

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If you don't pay for Zoom Rooms, you can join but not host meetings, so the Zoom Room is not the host. (Nor can it share media.) So the way we use it, there are two roles, but one person doing both. The host role has the usual Zoom host duties of muting people, sharing media, possibly spotlighting, etc. He (or she) does this on a separate computer, not the ZR computer. The A/V control role uses the Zoom Room controller tablet to change cameras, mute the sanctuary, change the sanctuary display between gallery and speaker view, and change the volume of the speaker (soundbar in our case) in the sanctuary. You could have different people in these two different roles, but I find it best to have one person do both, firstly because it simply requires one less person and secondly because it's easier to synchronize things like media sharing (done by host) with A/V control actions if the same person is doing both. I run the whole thing remotely from my house (via VPN), but even if you are at the church, I think it is better to run at least the host duties from somewhere other than the sanctuary. The reason is that the host sometimes needs to talk with the other folks on Zoom, and that is distracting to the service if he is in the sanctuary. It can also result in audio feedback. Even if he is not talking at all, if he is in the sanctuary he should use headphones to hear what people on Zoom are hearing. Bottom line, if I understand your situation, is that (assuming use of Zoom Rooms) you should either have the Verger doing the Zoom Room A/V tablet in the sanctuary and the host elsewhere, or you have a single person (the Verger?) outside the sanctuary doing both roles.

Hi Ed - The advantage is mainly simplicity both in setting it up and running it -- i.e., less stumbling:) The other approach could get pretty complicated with remote logins to the zoom computer, multiple virtual desktops, etc. Also, audio/visual controls were kind of scattered in that approach. This approach has all the A/V control in one place (the tablet) and the only remote login needed is to get the pairing code for the tablet (or you just need someone in the sanctuary to tell it to you). This is simple enough that I could show someone else how to run it when I am not available. The the other approach was possibly too complicated for that.

@@rickporter6456 thanks for your informative a quick reply. We typically run our meetings from the sanctuary. Does Rooms have to be run from a tablet? Can it be run from the Rooms computer? Do you know the min specs rqd for the Rooms server? Again, Thanks

@@erbrophyiii Although the tablet is probably the most common platform for the Zoom Rooms controller, there are other possibilities as shown in support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/115000542566-Zoom-Rooms-controller-features. Having said that, you wouldn't run it from the same computer as the server. One of the main ideas with the server is that its display is what people are seeing in the meeting, so you really don't want someone performing A/V control actions (e.g., switching cameras and mics) using that display as the control interface. If you really don't care about that, then you can just use the regular old Zoom client software instead of Zoom Rooms. As for the min specs for the server, see support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204003179. I can tell you from experience, though, that it doesn't have to be particularly high powered. Our server just has an 8 year old i3-4130 and 8GB RAM.

@@rickporter6456 Thanks a bunch; very helpful

Though I'm seeing its $500/year ...

Hi Lisa. Yes! If you look in the description above, there is a revised version of this video based on Zoom Rooms. And you don't have to pay anything if you use it in the way described in the video. We've been using Zoom Rooms for hybrid church services for the past 2 years, and I'm pretty happy with it.

I'm not completely sure I understand your setup, but here is one thing important thing to be careful about: when you have multiple zoom endpoints in the same physical location make sure that you only have audio enabled on one of the endpoints or you will get feedback. *Muting the other endpoints is not sufficient. They must be disabled.* (Disabling turns off the speaker as well as the mic.) Otherwise, sound from the speaker on one of the other endpoints will feedback to your microphone. In your case, you probably just want to enable the zoom room audio (mic and speaker) and disable audio on the other machines including the host. And sorry to be slow to respond!

Hey Glen - The sermons are at ruclips.net/channel/UCFgndXcsyTRHScXg-8Mj-5wvideos However, they just show the one camera angle so may not be interesting from a technical perspective. I also have recordings of the full services, but they have personal info (prayer requests and such) that I'd rather not post publicly. Contact me directly and I can get you a sample of a full service. (I assume this is the Glen Gardner I know!)

Hi Rick… We have purchased the equipment we need and we are working through the learning curve. For people on zoom, do they need to have Zoom Rooms installed on their PC or just Zoom. We have just been sending out an email with the link to the meeting. Would there be a link to the meeting if we aren’t using the schedule meeting option?

@@glengardner6142 Zoom Rooms only needs to be installed on the church computer (where sanctuary cameras, mics, display and speaker are connected). Other people don't even need to know it exists. They just need 'regular' Zoom. Regardless of whether you are using the schedule meeting option or not, you can always send a meeting link.

Thanks Rick!

Another questions Rick… Our audio seems to have a lot of reverb. We do have a direct connection to the mixer auxiliary port. Any suggestions?

Hi Nathan - I'm probably not much help on this one. To my knowledge, the quality of Zoom Rooms audio is not noticeably better than normal Zoom. When I've played music for the service, it has either been by sharing a youtube video or by playing itunes (on the host computer). I always thought the audio was fine, but I'm not an audiophile. Since the music is recorded, maybe try copying it to the computer beforehand and then playing it with itunes or some other music player on the computer. (It may go without saying, but when sharing the video on the sharing screen you click the two boxes at the bottom for Share Sound and Optimize for Video Clip, and when sharing just sound you go to the Sharing/Advanced tab and click Computer Audio.)

@@pattenburgeverittstownumcs7881 Thank you for your reply, Rick! Earlier this morning I downloaded the Zoom Rooms app and control room app and I've been testing the system at home with three laptops and one additional webcam. I have the control room app loaded and operating on two devices - both my Galaxy phone and my Dell laptop - and I can change the settings of the room from either device without logging in and out. And with one of the cameras I can zoom in digitally, then pan and tilt. I've concluded that this system works well for showing and switching camera views and mics, but I'm still having trouble figuring out how to easily go back and forth between sharing the spotlighted camera view to the remote participants and sharing the PowerPoint Show with the lyrics slides and the recorded music embedded in the slideshow. I might have to create separate self-running PowerPoint Shows that my volunteer tech can share and then start from the host laptop at the appropriate point in the church service.

@@newchurchboston3196 Right. The zoom rooms controller doesn't do sharing. We do that from the host. If you want to make your powerpoint show look like a camera input (so that you can switch to it in zoom rooms), I think you could do that with OBS or something like that.

@@pattenburgeverittstownumcs7881 I wish it was simpler! I find OBS confusing because it's so full-featured. Also, has Zoom changed its policy about being able to use Rooms and the Controller App without a license? I think by default, I started a trial today that is up in a month.

@@newchurchboston3196 Yes. OBS is really overkill for what you want. I think there are other virtual camera products, but don't know much about them and they may be just as much overkill as OBS. Would be nice if there were something simple. However, I saw a post that pointed out if you treat your slides like a virtual camera, zoom will treat your slides like video and they will not be as sharp as if they are screen shared. As for the license, I never had to get a trial license. Just downloaded it and started using it. You don't need to sign in to just join a meeting. At what point in the process did it tell you that you need a license?

Yes. You can use a combination of obs.ninja (rebranded to vod.ninja) and OBS and a virtual audio cable (vb-audio.com). obs.ninja is a very cool tool that you can use to easily get your video (and audio) from the remote camera -- anywhere on the internet -- to the zoom rooms computer. Then run OBS on the zoom rooms computer with the obs.ninja stream as an input and start a virtual camera output from OBS that will look like a camera to Zoom. To get the audio into zoom, you will also need to connect a virtual audio cable from OBS to zoom. With a little googling you should find how to do this. I tried the video part and it looks great. Did not connect the virtual audio cable, but pretty sure it will work fine. OBS can support multiple virtual cameras. If you need help, let me know.

Glad it was helpful, Trudie. Thanks for the comment.

Hi Howard. I assume you have a basic setup in which the ipad and mac are connected to the same router (via wifi or ethernet). The zoom room ip address and local ip address should be different, but they usually both start with the same prefix (3 numbers). E.g., my controller and zoom room are 192.168.0.200 and 192.168.0.186. Both start with 192.168.0. I suggest you first make sure they are connected to the same router. If they are, another problem might be that they are on a wifi 'guest' network where the router won't route traffic between them. Check your router configuration to make sure that they are not on a guest network. And I'm not a pastor -- just the church tech guy! (should have said that in response to the previous question)

@@rickporter6456 Rick, Thanks for the reply and the clarification. Checked your suggestions and still no go. I'm going to take a mental day off and try again soon. May contact you again, but meantime, thanks.

​@@hgelman One thing you can try is to check the connectivity between the ipad and mac. Install the inetTools app from the App store and run a LAN Scan to see the devices on the network. You should see your mac's IP in the list. Or run Ping with the mac's IP. If this works, then the problem is probably not the network. I just installed zoom rooms on my wife's mac and the controller on her ipad. When I tried to pair them, I got the same error you saw. Then I tried connecting to the mac using my android tablet as a controller and it worked! And then I tried the ipad a second time and this time it worked?! Strange. And as always, if you are desperate try rebooting:) And if that doesn't work, uninstall/reinstall Zoom Rooms.

For many features it is not free. However, it costs nothing to install it and use it to join a zoom meeting.

Were you able to figure it out? I.e., did you check the IP addresses of the phone and computer? Just wondering.

Can you clarify? Are you running the Zoom Rooms Controller app on your phone? They do need to be on the same network, but I don't think they both need to be on wifi. Should be OK if the computer is on ethernet. If they are not on the same network you might need to set up a VPN.

Yes, that’s my issue. I can pair my phone with Zoom rooms.

@@MELVINARDON Look at the IP address on your phone and the address on your computer. They should be on the same subnet. If you don't know where to look, tell me what kind of phone and computer you have.

Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure on that, but convinced myself it was OK as when I run it it says for Non-Commercial use, and we are certainly not commercial. I have tried Chrome Remote Desktop, and as you say, it works but is not as good. Also, Teamviewer is the only approach I found that works well on Android phones, and I use one for a webcam in a corner of the church. Any suggestion for a TV alternative for phones?

When TeamViewer started limiting my sessions to an extremely short time, I switched to AnyDesk.